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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 13:32    Post subject:
@Superderp2004

"I have a 970 overclocked to extreme levels and I get 49fps! Everything is fine! Perfect"

Great to know your level of standards, I'll know who not to use as a benchmark for quality in the future
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Supermax2004
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 13:35    Post subject:
But what do you except? What exactly? 60fps+ constantly? Maybe....but 50 is still more than good enough. You can't use Risen 3 or Call of Duty or The Evil Within (just shitty examples Very Happy) as a standard. They run at 60fps+ all the time no prob. But this here is different. And Witcher 3 won't even reach the 50 I am sure it will get 40-45. YES maybe with better graphics but you get it? Better graphics less frames it will happen more often now. Arkham Knight probably also 40-50fps not more. GTA 5 wouldn't surprise me with 40-50fps ^^

But on the other hand if I get about 50fps in that scene on ultra and 4MFAA then why do you get 50 with less details? A 780 gtx is not bad. Or is it a ti? How many fps do you get with 2MSAA and 4MSAA?
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 13:42    Post subject:
I expect 60. I expect 60 given the fact that the scenes in question, where the game runs like shite, don't even look that good. The fact that I can lower settings *enormously* and still get shit performance is unacceptable. I do not care if you and Sniffty think it's awesome. I don't. Good for you. You're right a 780 isn't bad, it's still a top shelf piece of hardware, the fact that this game alone can bring it to its knees is unacceptable. Period. Enabling *any* form of hardware AA absolutely cripples performance by 10-20fps++ and that, too, is unacceptable.

I'm done with the conversation. I'm tired of going round in circles with you guys, you're happy it runs like shite but I'm not. Just drop it and move on as your experience in the game with your superduperawesomefantastic hardware is not my concern.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 13:45    Post subject:
We expect games of present to run decently on present day hardware. And by decently I mean at a steady 60 fps. And NOT on low/med settings.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 14:12    Post subject:
I dialed shadows down and turned AA to the lowest setting and get about 60fps on average. I also turned off the motion blur when turning the camera because it caused microsttuters. With this fps I enjoy the game a lot more and it feels smoother and I feel more in control. Before it felt like wading through treacle and fighting the camera.

About 5 hours in, I'm starting to enjoy the game - I got the hang of the way-too-low tactical camera (what retard restricted it to this low I have no idea) and minus the many smaller flaws I'm liking the exploration and the Far Cry 3 feel of the game (read: lots of mini locations and stuff to collect and discover).

I'm actually surprised people haven't compared it to Far Cry 3 since it uses a similar mechanism of capturing locations and so on.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 14:16    Post subject:
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- 970GTX@1515mhz (that is beyond 980 gtx)
-5820k@4,1ghz 6 core cpu
- 49 fps



Okay

Yeah. Everything is just peachy. I can see that.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 14:17    Post subject:
lol expect 60fps on a 970 and a six core Haswell E this is a next gen game Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 14:30    Post subject:
Well 49fps in that particular scene standing around. Once I start running I'm never under 50, more like 55. But again this is a discussion of what has to be and what is good enough.

If you need 60fps+ I understand. Your prob I don't.

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Thank god though I dont need 60fps. I am happy with 40 or better 45+. Thats how I can go with time. Best graphics usually mean 40-60fps and not 60+. For that SLI or CF would come to mind. But fuck me Crossfire never again.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:06    Post subject:
hmmmz so it works like dynamo, if you run around, computer gets enery from uranus and fps increases, but if you stand still uranus is depleted of energy and it goes down?

or maybe its the motion blur? Cool Face making it all smooz Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:07    Post subject:
If I were to run through that exact spot it would go down to 49 ^^

But fucking doesnt matter thats the lowest it gets I am fucking fucking fine with it for fucks sake!
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:20    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
hmmmz so it works like dynamo, if you run around, computer gets enery from uranus and fps increases, but if you stand still uranus is depleted of energy and it goes down?

lold hard at this
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:24    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
hmmmz so it works like dynamo, if you run around, computer gets enery from your anus and fps increases, but if you stand still your anus is depleted of energy and it goes down?

fixed
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:29    Post subject:
Any news when scene release is coming up?


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:33    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Any news when scene release is coming up?


Now that 3DM have done the hard work, you can expect a Skidrow release fairly soon after 3DM put out their fix Laughing In regards to 3DM, most likely in a week or so.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:52    Post subject:
Thanks then,there is no any rush for me,I don't play much,I just want to be part of the people who enjoyining playing another DRM outcry game Wink


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:57    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Thanks then,there is no any rush for me,I don't play much,I just want to be part of the people who enjoyining playing another DRM outcry game Wink


Surprisingly, the game itself is actually damned good .. though it depends on your tastes and what you're willing to accept in regards to streamlining.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:12    Post subject:
I am kinda disappointed in the Hissing Plains area. Sad All this useless space with stupid enemy respawn camps leading to

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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:13    Post subject:
what's all the bitching... just turn off the fps monitor and have fun Cool Face

and, on topic: is there any recommendation on a good class to pick? planning to start this game this coming weekend Focused i expect to be as good or better than dragon age 1, which i played this last January and had a blast. i expect no less and i will be pissed off if the game is worse than the first Challenge Accepted
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:23    Post subject:
Get dw rogue - i think it is the most fun class to play. You have to setup and execute combos, flank, deaggro + you are going to deal epic dips.

S+W Warriors are boring - taunt and keep up guard

Two-handed warriors are super fragile at high difficulties

Archers are also fun but you will keep autoattacking much more than with daggers

Mages are boring IMHO - you have to keep barriers up + spam all you shit on cooldown. And your shit is not that exciting. I am playing with a Knight-Enchanter and he is a bit different than a normal mage - in a sense that he is actually a tank himself autoattacking 90% of the time.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:25    Post subject:
I'm with dsergei 100%, playing as a DW Rogue is undiluted fun! Tanking is dull, standing far away and lobbing fireballs is dull, shooting arrows is dull, but really getting right in there with the weakening setups, flipping around, using anchor chains to snag archers and deal some serious damage, dropping into darkness and jumping out to deal criticals... yeah, damned fun. Deathblow is seriously OP too, it already has an enormous damage potential just from your dual weapons, but when you add in the fact that it gets boosted based on percentage of health lost by foe you end up with a merciless attack. Not to mention the secondary attack it gains if you haven't received damage for 5s.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:32    Post subject:
An alleviation for stuttering that's worked for some people is to adjust mouse smoothing all the way to the right. Counter-intuitive as it may be, it appears the leftmost setting maximizes smoothing while the rightmost disables it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:37    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
JackQ wrote:
Thanks then,there is no any rush for me,I don't play much,I just want to be part of the people who enjoyining playing another DRM outcry game Wink


Surprisingly, the game itself is actually damned good .. though it depends on your tastes and what you're willing to accept in regards to streamlining.


i'm staying away to post something about this game before i run an isodemo, but i really hate how the ui looks like Sad.
why the hell no game dev adopt the lua system like ... wow let's say ?
that way you can mod pretty much everything.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:39    Post subject:
The onscreen UI is "functional" but the inventory is a bloody mess.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 17:21    Post subject:
Somehow, the idea you cannot move while attacking just annoys me... and being a rogue, the idea of not being able to click on an enemy, and move into attacking range is just bloody stupid.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 17:37    Post subject:
I think you can in tactical mode. Which is clunky as fuck!
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 17:38    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
Two-handed warriors are super fragile at high difficulties

Early on they can struggle a bit, but once you have a few abilities to generate sufficient guard and bring along a tank that can actually both tank and hold aggro, it's pretty straightforward. I finished the game on hard as a 2H warrior and I much preferred it to the mage I am currently playing as. I didn't even bother with using the Fade-Touched Obsidian (auto-generates guard), but that would be one way to make them more survivable if you were struggling. The only thing you need to watch out for is those fucking Despair demons and their ice beam, and a few similar boss attacks that will strip your guard almost instantly. But that's why you point the tank at them.

That said, the AI is absolutely useless with 2H warriors though, something to keep in mind if you plan on bringing along Iron Bull (and speccing him 2H as intended) on higher difficulties. You're probably better off not bothering with a companion 2H.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 17:45    Post subject:
Fuck. The. Person. That. Created. That. Fucking. Ice. Beam.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 17:55    Post subject:
If you're playing 2H, for the love of god use the Charge ability. It generates guard AND closes gaps. It really is a must have, and on Dragon fights, when they jump around to use the breath attacks, it's the most awesome thing ever.
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