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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd May 2014 12:11    Post subject:
Even if it was 1 cent, i still wouldn't pay it, the game was fun, but not worth ANY amount of money to me.
As F2P yes, because i would play it as casual, and casual games shouldn't be paid for IMO.


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bani789




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 15:38    Post subject:
http://www.defiance.com/en/my-ego/profile/free-to-play/

So apparently its F2P now.

Worth trying or not really?
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 15:39    Post subject:
Yeah, that wasn't really unexpected tbh...


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 15:46    Post subject:
bani789 wrote:


Worth trying or not really?


Wondering the same
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 15:59    Post subject:
Meh. I had quite a bit of fun while playing it. Can solo pretty much all the quests and solo instances.


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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 16:10    Post subject:
played around 60-70h, til i finished the story, its fun but can become boring, and also there are so few things you can do
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 16:29    Post subject:
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DEFRP/defiance-recruit-pack

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DEFHP/defiance-hunter-pack

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DEFVBIUP/defiance-vbi-ultimate-pack

Recruit, Hunter and VBI Ultimate packs, unsure if they mean anything but it seems most F2P play games get these "DLC" convenience packs or what to call them.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 16:39    Post subject:
For those playing/joining now, don't forget that Pretzel posted the Ark Codes on the previous page;

http://www.defiance.com/arkhunter

http://orcz.com/Defiance:_Arkfall_Codes

Have fun Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 17:18    Post subject:
Hehe, had to check if I went all the way with ark codes in Beta. Was afraid I had to put in again 60 new codes or so, but nope still lvl 15 being the max


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 17:36    Post subject:
i got stuck at 99 codes, is there a submit daily limit? funny thing is i dont even have logged in with a char lol Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jun 2014 17:36    Post subject:
It may crash from time to time and start giving errors, just logout and back in again.
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 22:15    Post subject:
Could be interesting. Despite its flaws i really liked the original Defiance, put some good time into it back in the day.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2018 07:37    Post subject:
Whatever happened to the TV show lol?
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2018 07:46    Post subject:
Finished - canceled like in - they canceled it but guys wraped up some plots in last episode.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 06:31    Post subject:
Hmm...nothing changed? Confused


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 07:16    Post subject:
Apparently it's the same game with some new content.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 08:31    Post subject:
They ported over to a x64 bit engine, integrated all the expansion packs into the base game, switched up the skill trees to a "class system" (you can max out each class so you only need 1 character), made loot progression work like Destiny 2, and LITERALLY Ctrl+C + Ctrl+V'ed 100% of the actual content.

In short, shameless cash grab.


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 11:52    Post subject:
It's Free...
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mtj




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 14:07    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
It's Free...


A lot of crap is free Sad

(I liked original defiance for quite a while actually Razz - However this simply feels like it's the same thing with very minor changes - I tried in a beta a month or two ago)
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 14:11    Post subject:
Not really the point. He said it was a cash grab...

How?
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mtj




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 14:24    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Not really the point. He said it was a cash grab...

How?


ah yea... free game being cash grap .. Razz

Sure they sell stuff there, but so did the original.

I think it's more like a... final? attempt to keep the game afloat. It's a new release -> people will find (appears as a 'new' game in articles etc.) it, also people who haven't tried the original (maybe because it was already old game and they didn't 'want' to play old games), and if enough stay -> game stays up.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2018 21:22    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Not really the point. He said it was a cash grab...

How?


The pack that allowed you to play 4 days early was $20. This pack unlocks 4 of the 5 skill-tree classes. If you want the 5th class, you pay ANOTHER $20 - otherwise you have to wait 3 WEEKS.

The way the class experience system works - by the time you hit level 20 or so in your EGO level, you will have maxed out whatever class you started as. By that time, you'll have enough "special currency" (forget what it was called) to unlock one new class. You switch to it and level that one now. However, by the time you finish THAT one you won't have enough to unlock the next. So all your XP that you're gaining, while going towards your EGO level (which is basically pointless), will NOT be applied to any class.

So yea, unless you paid $20 you'll be earning XP but it won't be getting applied to your classes after a certain point, and pretty much be going to waste.

While it's technically "free", as anyone who has played free-to-play titles knows, it's not really "free" if you plan on playing any extended amount of time, as they've built in wallet walls.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2018 08:47    Post subject:
Btw, I tried it for like 5 minutes and quit and uninstalled. This didn't age well.

And I played and owned the original at release.

Maybe it's just me, dunno...
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2018 09:33    Post subject:
yea, it's very clunky... Played to level... 4 or so. ~6-7 missions in total + one of those events.

The enemies are horrible bullet sponges. I spend like 1 clip / 1 regular monster. (I've gotten 'green' weapons as random drops from the monsters I'm kililng , thus it should not be that I'm just using too low level gear).

I don't recall the original being THIS bullet spongy in the beginning (It was horrible in the end, but I recall in the beginning things died quite nicely)

There are terrain and quest bugs...
-> I jumped on a car wreck on a road -> you cannot 'walk' on the car for some reason, I got stuck in permanent jump animation and was stuck there until someone blew up a grenade or something near me to knock me off the car.

The first main quest (you have to kill 75 monsters), you're supposed to get a temporary super weapon from a container -> I used the container, but the weapon didn't spawn Razz -> I had to kill 75 monsters with a sucky assault rifle / pistol Razz took a while.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2018 10:43    Post subject:
Yeah, but "luckily" they almost entirely ignore you and you can basically just run and gun through those mutant soldiers lol.

That's actually what made me call it quits ^^. No AI, simple script that makes them "pretend fight" with the female protagonist while you run through them and killing everyone.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2018 11:42    Post subject:
Played for 2 or so hours and I didn't find anything new. It also doesn't play well and looks bad. Poorly aged and for something that is getting a re-release, this is terrible.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2018 11:49    Post subject:
Yea, would not put any money in it right now (I spent at least a 100€ in the original Razz Bought a lot of inventory slots and all expansions).


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 07:03    Post subject:
8 years in Defiance and another 3 years in Defiance 2050, full of peaks and valleys. Today, with a heavy heart, we are sad to announce that Defiance and Defiance 2050 will officially cease all operations on April 29, 2021.

We concluded both games could no longer sustain themselves. This decision has been a difficult one to make.

While we are discontinuing the game’s service, the journey we’ve taken together has been a valuable learning and unforgettable experience, one we will remember for a long time.

As of today, all cash purchases will be disabled. Bits already purchased before February 24, 2021 will still be usable until the end of service. Laughing
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