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tet666




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 12:53    Post subject:
I don't even plan to play online ^^


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 12:56    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
I don't even plan to play online ^^


The worst thing about this forced bullshit is that unless you set Steam to be "offline", you have no choice. There's no "offline" option in the game, so it's either Steam offline, firewall DS2 server IPs, or alt-f4 until you're eventually banned. All this does is cater to the cheaters and griefers and is a ridiculous move, but oh well.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 12:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The forced online aspect of this is why I'll never buy it. "it's part of the game, deal with it, lolol" Rolling Eyes
What do you mean by that?

Ah you mean getting invaded by other players? I don't know what the mechanics in DS2 are like, but in Dark Souls you could simply stay hollow or disconnect from gfwl if you didn't want to deal with that crap. My first playthrough was with yarr version and I wasn't online until the very end, when paxsali gifted me the game.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:01    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
The forced online aspect of this is why I'll never buy it. "it's part of the game, deal with it, lolol" Rolling Eyes
What do you mean by that?


I'm not sure what you mean, what's confusing? I don't like forced PvP and I hate the griefershit hivemind trolling responses of "it's part of the game, deal with it" from DS2 fanatics on GAF/Reddit/Steam. So because the game has forced PvP and the only way to avoid it is to set Steam "offline" or have my save banned, I have no intention of ever buying this. If FROM wants to cater to griefers and shitbags, they can have their money and not mine.

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I don't know what the mechanics in DS2 are like, but in Dark Souls you could simply stay hollow or disconnect from gfwl if you didn't want to deal with that crap. My first playthrough was with yarr version and I wasn't online until the very end, when paxsali gifted me the game.


Nope, it's forced this time - whether you're hollow or not - and there's no ingame "offline" function. It's online forced (if you have a net connection, not "required to play" sort of thing) and you get your save banned from online functionality if you alt-f4/disconnect too many times.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
tet666 wrote:
I don't even plan to play online ^^


The worst thing about this forced bullshit is that unless you set Steam to be "offline", you have no choice. There's no "offline" option in the game, so it's either Steam offline, firewall DS2 server IPs, or alt-f4 until you're eventually banned. All this does is cater to the cheaters and griefers and is a ridiculous move, but oh well.


When playing DS1 on my PC with online functionality i was invaded perhaps 5 times. 2 of those times were cheaters. This shit does not sit well with me either.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:02    Post subject:
Yeah, as I said, I don't know how this is in Dark Souls 2. I think the transition between hollow and alive is a bit more fluid?

@Stormwolf: Luckily I never encountered a cheater. Though some of those invaders were tough motherfuckers. Especially because I leveled up like a noob and finished my first playthrough at level 97. So any body invading me had a specialized build like hulk, and I was just trying to dogde and land a hit xD

With the new build it's exactly the opposite: People invade me, see me on soul level 27 and assume that their armor and upheld shield will withstand my pyromancy flame Twisted Evil Killed all invaders with this pyro char. And I don't invade others, doesn't fit my playstyle


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:02    Post subject:
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:02    Post subject:
You use an "human effigy" and turn human. You don't even need a bonfire.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:04    Post subject:
D34Dite wrote:
MEGAtexture wrote:
gah i dont have the cash to pre order it... i get the cash at exactly 00.00 tonight >_<

i hope the extra stuff goes on dlc, i hate missing out on stuff


the preorder weapons aren't great tbh and you can get them later in the game,by which point they are even shittier


oh didnt know that, great news tho . thanks buddy
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:05    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:07    Post subject:
But I guess you can only be invaded once, like in Dark Souls, until you go to a bonfire again? And there seem to be also penalties for people that invade too often. I will just give it a shot and return with feedback if it is really that trigger happy Confused


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:12    Post subject:
While i hate getting ganked myself in games, i also see the fun in doing that. When you gank someone and they start flaming and insulting you Laughing
Somehow this gets me a boner sometimes Frap Frap Guy


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:14    Post subject:
^^

Point proven.

Griefer Souls 2.

I'll stick to stealing it instead as I'm just not interested in that kind of gameplay, nor supporting those that are Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:15    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
^^

Point proven.

Griefer Souls 2.

I'll stick to stealing it instead.
Did you also play Dark Souls Sabin? Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:16    Post subject:
Yes and I enjoyed it... since it had an "offline" mode. You know me by now, I fucking DESPISE griefers and online shitbags that exist purely to cause misery to others, so I ignore anything that enables them. DS1 at least had an offline mode, this one doesn't.

Oh and don't mind me, I'm just miserable lately so more grumpy for it Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:24    Post subject:
Mehh. While Cdkeyshere.com is cheap as hell, they told me that they will probably deliver keys 8 hours after release :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:25    Post subject:
To everyone who's looking forward to the online part on PC... I can only suggest to stop being delusional.

It will be a fucking hack-fest. Will be over as soon as the first trainer rolls out. And this time there is alot more hype behind this game than it's predecessor. Which means that there will be even more cunts.

Bob Barnsen wrote:
While i hate getting ganked myself in games, i also see the fun in doing that. When you gank someone and they start flaming and insulting you Laughing
Somehow this gets me a boner sometimes Frap Frap Guy


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:26    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:29    Post subject:
it was said in the thread, there is an item that you use and chances to get invaded become way smaller, dont know the % Very Happy
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Now I'm worried Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:40    Post subject:
Burn a Effigy, the invasion rate goes down substantially. With the amount of players playing the game, by burning an effigy you are so down the list it is extremely unlikely that you will get invaded. Especially if you are in hollow at the same time. Also just block the game in firewall, how hard is that? I can understand if you want steam online for chatting, but if you have no intention to play the online part of the game...I don't understand this complain at all. Aren't we PC gamers because we can have options whether the devs want it or not? The fuck is FROM going to do about you blocking.

Guess what, if you play offline, the game has NPC invasions to mimic online activity in PVP heavy locations. You do have the option here.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:41    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
it was said in the thread, there is an item that you use and chances to get invaded become way smaller, dont know the % Very Happy


Nice. I hope there's also one to increase the invasion chance % Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:43    Post subject:
dannofdawn wrote:
Burn a Effigy, the invasion rate goes down substantially. With the amount of players playing the game, by burning an effigy you are so down the list it is extremely unlikely that you will get invaded. Especially if you are in hollow at the same time. Also just block the game in firewall, how hard is that? I can understand if you want steam online for chatting, but if you have no intention to play the online part of the game...I don't understand this complain at all. Aren't we PC gamers because we can have options whether the devs want it or not? The fuck is FROM going to do about you blocking.

Guess what, if you play offline, the game has NPC invasions to mimic online activity in PVP heavy locations. You do have the option here.

good idea with firewall, but it still tracks achieves and hours played? Very Happy
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lolozaur wrote:
it was said in the thread, there is an item that you use and chances to get invaded become way smaller, dont know the % Very Happy

Why though?! Why not just have a really fucking simple setting in the options menu that let's you set the game to offline, the same kind of option that Sleeping Dogs has for turning off the "multiplayer" notifications and what not. But no, because this is Shiny Souls, it's hardcore, it's part of the game, noob!
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:44    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
It'd be nice if you could restrict invaders to your Steam friend list


Or also steam community groups if your friendlist doesn't have that many people playing Dark Souls. Better yet - include it as a option to select which pool to use for matchmaking invasions. If there were managed steam invasion groups, which would ban all who exploit, cheat, grief etc., the online features could almost be a good thing.

But as it stands right now, I'll definitely enjoy superior isodemo.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:44    Post subject:
Him696 wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
it was said in the thread, there is an item that you use and chances to get invaded become way smaller, dont know the % Very Happy


Nice. I hope there's also one to increase the invasion chance % Very Happy


They have other uses however and they are somewhat limited initially. Smile

You can read about them here on the wiki:

http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Human+Effigy#.U1j5FigbJaT


EDIT: Also disconnecting or otherwise "dishonorably" quitting from PvP/Co-op carries a penalty now but there's a item to negate that as well.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2014 13:49    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
While i hate getting ganked myself in games, i also see the fun in doing that. When you gank someone and they start flaming and insulting you Laughing
Somehow this gets me a boner sometimes Frap Frap Guy


I don't get a boner from it, but always find it hilarious when people get so serious about it.

When someone cheats I laugh at them for being so degenerate they need to cheat, i don't let it ruin my day by raging.


So invade me all you want, spineless cunts, ya hear? Twisted Evil
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Dunno if repost but some "enhancements" via nvidia inspector by durante .. Basically SGSSAA , HBAO + , AF etc. Won't save it much considering the lighting downgrade it went through.

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