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couleur
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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 08:26 Post subject: Why???	Quick Quote Quote

Why cant I finish those games! I cant even remember the last time I finished a game. My Steam account is bloated with Games I bought through the sales, and I played a lot of them halfway through, but I cant seem to be able to have enough interest for more than half of the games. Even the really good dishonored. I think I'm oversaturated and spoiled. The only Games I seem to able to finish lately are point&click adventures. "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 08:29 Post subject: Re: Why???

couleur wrote:

Why cant I finish those games!

I cant even remember the last time I finished a game. My Steam account is bloated with Games I bought through the sales, and I played a lot of them halfway through, but I cant seem to be able to have enough interest for more than half of the games. Even the really good dishonored. I think I'm oversaturated and spoiled.

The only Games I seem to able to finish lately are point&click adventures. Sad

I so wish I could atleast finish 1/100 of the games I own Razz

shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 09:42 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Its because you're getting old Well partly... the good old days with games like dunegon keeper and theme hospital are gone, gone i tell ya! I rush a lot of games "modern" games. And those 6-7/10 games im afraid I won't bother to finish if I wait for long

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 11:12 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Been playing path of exile like a mad man for 3 months now. If you like a deep hack n slash give that a try. Its f2p. But I agree, most games get really boring really fast which is why I've stopped playing most genres, mainly into mmos/online arpgs. Though Im looking forward to star citizen and the new torment game. Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 11:58 Post subject:

deelix wrote:

Its because you're getting old Wink

Well partly... the good old days with games like dunegon keeper and theme hospital are gone, gone i tell ya! Sad

I rush a lot of games "modern" games. And those 6-7/10 games im afraid I won't bother to finish if I wait for long Laughing

Ahh, theme hospital! Loved that game! Snipping the rats were always fun Very Happy

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 11:58 Post subject:

fraich3 wrote:

deelix wrote:

Its because you're getting old Wink

Well partly... the good old days with games like dunegon keeper and theme hospital are gone, gone i tell ya! Sad

I rush a lot of games "modern" games. And those 6-7/10 games im afraid I won't bother to finish if I wait for long Laughing

Ahh, theme hospital! Loved that game! Snipping the rats were always fun Very Happy

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 12:10 Post subject:

Acer wrote:

new torment game.

wat

EDIT: holy shit its true...

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 12:23 Post subject:

The_Zeel wrote:

Acer wrote:

new torment game.

wat

EDIT: holy shit its true...

Yep, kickstarter project already gathered $2.75 million pushing for 3-5 by the time it ends.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 12:23 Post subject:

Acer wrote:

Been playing path of exile like a mad man for 3 months now. If you like a deep hack n slash give that a try. Its f2p.
But I agree, most games get really boring really fast which is why I've stopped playing most genres, mainly into mmos/online arpgs.
Though Im looking forward to star citizen and the new torment game.

I've heard about PoE, but never actually bothered to try it. I played through Diablo&DiabloII a few times, though I'm not a fan of the multiplayer aspect of those games.

I'll give PoE a try today, so thats yet another game I'll begin! Very Happy

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 14:02 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yup.... Same situation here, I have shit tons of games in my steam library, xbox, ps3.... and just recently I've started beating them. You just gotta take your time, most people here beat a new game in a day, it takes me at least a week, no fucking time :/ I don't want to be an adult anymore \| BenQ XL2420T 24" 120Hz \| Ducky Shine III 9008 White LED - Brown MX \| Logitech G9x \| \| Corsair Carbide 400R \| Asus Sabertooth z77 \| i7 3770K @ 4.3Ghz - 1.200v \| CM Hyper 212 Evo - Push/Pull \| \| SLI eVGA 4GB GTX980 ACX SC \| Vengeance 16GB RAM 1600 DDR3 \| AX850w PSU \| Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD \| WD Black 1TB HD \|

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 14:21 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I can relate to that. And it's not like I don't have the free time, I only work 3 days a week. But somehow I just hop from game to game, never finishing anything even though I do want to..

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 14:36 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yup know the feeling, with each year passing it seems I spent more on going to the older games to finish or revisit them and the newer games get put on hold or even never played. Forced myself yesterday to play and finish the BF3 campaign. Since I bought it I never touched the SP, and dear god they stripped a whole lot game out of a game. Just think that most newer ones just lack a lot and that is the reason. But I'm glad once in a while we get some exceptions.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 20:25 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

It definitely has to do with being spoiled along with "pleasure maximization" and having too many options. This is a good read to lead you into my strategy below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice:_Why_More_Is_Less I think this quote in particular addresses your problem that is in no way exclusive to you. "Missed Opportunities. Schwartz finds that when people are faced with having to choose one option out of many desirable choices, they will begin to consider hypothetical trade-offs. Their options are evaluated in terms of missed opportunities instead of the opportunity's potential. Schwartz maintains that one of the downsides of making trade-offs is it alters how we feel about the decisions we face; afterwards, it affects the level of satisfaction we experience from our decision." I had the same problem a few years ago and think my own solution worked quite well. I force myself to finish pretty much all games I start that has a goal and a story line. I probably have a 95 percent completion rate now on garmes. It's only utter crap like Fable 3 I refuse to finish. You might think forcing yourself to finish games sounds almost like a job but it works for the following reasons. 1. I dont get distracted by knowing I could play a better game in my collection. I enjoy the game I am playing NOW and look for positives in it. 2. I get more picky with what games I start. I dont try many new games until it's time to play through them 3. You have to play through some so so games to really enjoy the good ones 4. I dont forget what the hell was going on in a game I left for months and come back to. I finish the story from start to finish. edit, I want to add one more point I think is relevant. 5. Finishing a game stimulates the reward center (achievements in games are there for a reason). I also feel that my "to play list" is being ticked off one at a time, even though I know its a long one. Feels good. Sports, social and minigames are Ok to play on the side of course. I enjoy gaming a lot more today than 5 years ago even though I got older. Try it I should become a gamer shrink... Last edited by grapper on Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:26; edited 7 times in total

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 20:34 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well, that is actually both an interesting read and a good idea. I will certainly think about that. Thanks! "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 20:40 Post subject:

grapper wrote:

1. I dont get distracted by knowing I could play a better game in my collection. I enjoy the game I am playing NOW and look for positives in it.

2. I get more picky with what games I start. I dont try many new games until it's time to play through them

3. You have to play through some so so games to really enjoy the good ones

4. I dont forget what the hell was going on in a game I left for months and come back to. I finish the story from start to finish.

Sports, social and minigames are Ok to play on the side of course. I enjoy gaming a lot more today than 5 years ago even though I got older.

Try it Smile

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 20:49 Post subject:

fraich3 wrote:

deelix wrote:

Its because you're getting old Wink

Well partly... the good old days with games like dunegon keeper and theme hospital are gone, gone i tell ya! Sad

I rush a lot of games "modern" games. And those 6-7/10 games im afraid I won't bother to finish if I wait for long Laughing

Ahh, theme hospital! Loved that game! Snipping the rats were always fun Very Happy

damn, that was fun! I miss the good old days too.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 20:58 Post subject:

deelix wrote:

Its because you're getting old Wink

Well partly... the good old days with games like dunegon keeper and theme hospital are gone, gone i tell ya! Sad

I rush a lot of games "modern" games. And those 6-7/10 games im afraid I won't bother to finish if I wait for long Laughing

Hey, I'm not so old! Mad

I'm only 31, and in my best years. lol ... Sad

But you are right. In some nostalgic way, I really miss gaming from that time too. The discovery of Morrowind. The epic first playthrough of Baldurs Gate 2. The cuddly settlers 2. The epic music of command and conquer: Red Alert. ... ... The infuriating riddles of Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders. Aw men...

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 21:40 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I own that on Gog.com <3

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 21:52 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I have the opposite problem. why can't I not finish all games? and yes that was a great post by grapper. sums up how i approach gaming. steam: Drowning witch uplay: Haxeety game completion log: http://pastebin.com/g6MgD5DV rig: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/2090866 Last edited by Drowning_witch on Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:02; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:01 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

This year I have finished two games: Ys Origin and Tomb Raider, which is already two more than in the entire second half of 2012. (I've put a lot of hours into Dark Souls but never actually finished it.) "Anatidaephobia is the fear that somewhere in the world there is a duck watching you." Fuck Polish government for oppressing women! "People are such awful conversationalists that they’ll interrupt you when you’re answering a question they asked."

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:14 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I accidentally finished Minecraft yesterday while being in creative mode. I had to use an Ender Explosive. But yeah last couple of years each game I tried didn't really catch my drift. Playing Minecraft now and perhaps soon NWN2 with the expansions. Formerly known as iconized

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:33 Post subject:

couleur wrote:

Well, that is actually both an interesting read and a good idea. Smile

I will certainly think about that. Thanks!

Hey no problem man, just happy to share and hope it can help you a little. Very Happy

I have read the same kind of posts across many forums and even though everyone is different I thnik this approach should work for many. I combine this with taking some time off gaming when I feel tired of it (separate issue but many times interconnected) and it really has been a winning strategy for me.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 22:54 Post subject:

grapper wrote:

It definitely has to do with being spoiled along with "pleasure maximization" and having too many options.

This is a good read to lead you into my strategy below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice:_Why_More_Is_Less
I think this quote in particular addresses your problem that is in no way exclusive to you.

"Missed Opportunities. Schwartz finds that when people are faced with having to choose one option out of many desirable choices, they will begin to consider hypothetical trade-offs. Their options are evaluated in terms of missed opportunities instead of the opportunity's potential. Schwartz maintains that one of the downsides of making trade-offs is it alters how we feel about the decisions we face; afterwards, it affects the level of satisfaction we experience from our decision."

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Hmm I didn't read the whole thread and missed your very good post!
I posted Mr. Schwartz' TED talk a week ago or so:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82484&start=5

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 23:19 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I'm doing basically the exact opposite of Grapper's great advices, it's like I'm having some form of gaming adhd these days. Playing a single game feels too boring to me, that's why I'm keeping 30-40 different games installed at the same time so I can change them like a woman change her shoes. Which is the very definition of being spoiled , but somehow I have more stimuli that way. I guess it's also because my subconscious doesn't want to finish them too soon, and it's indirectly trying to make them last more. Usually my memory isn't that good, but when it comes to games, I remember every detail/gameplay mechanic so this sort of "episodic" gaming is enjoyable for me. I always manage to finish them..eventually. Having more free time would help a lot, though. Random creations of an insane mind / Screens from Bulgaria [Early Access]

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 23:26 Post subject:

ixigia wrote:

I'm doing basically the exact opposite of Grapper's great advices, it's like I'm having some form of gaming adhd these days. Playing a single game feels too boring to me, that's why I'm keeping 30-40 different games installed at the same time so I can change them like a woman change her shoes. Which is the very definition of being spoiled Laughing

, but somehow I have more stimuli that way.

I guess it's also because my subconscious doesn't want to finish them too soon, and it's indirectly trying to make them last more. Usually my memory isn't that good, but when it comes to games, I remember every detail/gameplay mechanic so this sort of "episodic" gaming is enjoyable for me. I always manage to finish them..eventually. Razz

Having more free time would help a lot, though. Crying or Very sad

+1, but only have skyrim, trials evolution, and dota 1 installed. Cant force myself to play anything else, and it's also hard for me to play these 3 games, you put it right, gaming adhd for games hehe, and especially after noob rage quit in trials, if i fall 3 times, it's insta alt+f4 and shutdown pc.

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 23:44 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Who said it (it is also someone's sig here) that today's gamers want to be empowered instead of achieving stuff? Formerly known as iconized

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Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 23:56 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yeah people certainly are different. The ADHD approach probably works better for some. With the limited time I have for gaming I can't really play many games simultaneously or It'd take me way too long to finish them. Thanks for the TED link, will check it out tomorrow!

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