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| Hellifant wrote: | | sausje wrote: | | zipfero wrote: |
I dont really understand what youre trying to say...  |
That i put more value and respect for a company to gain such a status by purely it's fans and community, then when a company achieves the same but basically bought it's way to that point. |
You acting like RIOT did this ever since LoL came out. LoL´s popularity started to raise rapidly ever since 2011, and back then (s1), none of the tournaments except the s1 finale was made by RIOT, same with s2. And the salary thing JUST fucking started with s3, so how can you say that they BOUGHT their way to this point. What you can say is that LoL/Riot has come to a point where Riot can pay actual salary to players and host their own series of tournaments. |
This.
And yes its pretty obvious what you said sausje, and now it seems that you are trying to back yourself out of a corner, because you did not know the whole story behind lol and riot. Man up.
I have no great love for riot or lol, but I think its great that a bunch of people now make a living out playing video games. Its a fantastic scenario.
Zipfero you have to explain that, why is this not good for e-sports?
"Add to the fact that they initially tried forcing E-sports organisations to restrict themselves to only having ONE team in the genre or only staying in LoL if they wanted access or support to their own tour. Its fine, they can do what they want, but thats how it is."
And explain this, I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just curious.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Mar 2013 13:57 Post subject: |
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| Imoen wrote: | This.
And yes its pretty obvious what you said sausje, and now it seems that you are trying to back yourself out of a corner, because you did not know the whole story behind lol and riot. Man up. |
| sausje wrote: | So putting more value in another company, automatically means that i don't like (respect) the other at all?  (especially knowing i play about 5 hours of LoL per day, and maybe 1 hour per 6 months or so in SC2 or any other Blizzard game.)
So saying "basically" and "more populair" means "all popularity"?
See how your imagination twisted my words in your own shit? |
Same goes for you.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Mar 2013 14:10 Post subject: |
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| Imoen wrote: | | Hellifant wrote: | | sausje wrote: |
That i put more value and respect for a company to gain such a status by purely it's fans and community, then when a company achieves the same but basically bought it's way to that point. |
You acting like RIOT did this ever since LoL came out. LoL´s popularity started to raise rapidly ever since 2011, and back then (s1), none of the tournaments except the s1 finale was made by RIOT, same with s2. And the salary thing JUST fucking started with s3, so how can you say that they BOUGHT their way to this point. What you can say is that LoL/Riot has come to a point where Riot can pay actual salary to players and host their own series of tournaments. |
This.
And yes its pretty obvious what you said sausje, and now it seems that you are trying to back yourself out of a corner, because you did not know the whole story behind lol and riot. Man up.
I have no great love for riot or lol, but I think its great that a bunch of people now make a living out playing video games. Its a fantastic scenario.
Zipfero you have to explain that, why is this not good for e-sports?
"Add to the fact that they initially tried forcing E-sports organisations to restrict themselves to only having ONE team in the genre or only staying in LoL if they wanted access or support to their own tour. Its fine, they can do what they want, but thats how it is."
And explain this, I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just curious. |
For zipfero's last point, basically Riot was taking action with the major tournaments organizers ( ESL, Dreamhack, etc ) in order to make them have LoL the only game allowed in the whole MOBA/ARTS genre. They wanted no competition and binding exclusivities over venues, basically.
Since the whole thing got public, they apparently stopped negociating for that. ESL is still said to be completely locked by Riot officials - since they're near bankrupt, Riot is their only reliable money, and they take full advantage of that situation.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Mar 2013 15:28 Post subject: |
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| TheZor wrote: | | Imoen wrote: | | Hellifant wrote: |
You acting like RIOT did this ever since LoL came out. LoL´s popularity started to raise rapidly ever since 2011, and back then (s1), none of the tournaments except the s1 finale was made by RIOT, same with s2. And the salary thing JUST fucking started with s3, so how can you say that they BOUGHT their way to this point. What you can say is that LoL/Riot has come to a point where Riot can pay actual salary to players and host their own series of tournaments. |
This.
And yes its pretty obvious what you said sausje, and now it seems that you are trying to back yourself out of a corner, because you did not know the whole story behind lol and riot. Man up.
I have no great love for riot or lol, but I think its great that a bunch of people now make a living out playing video games. Its a fantastic scenario.
Zipfero you have to explain that, why is this not good for e-sports?
"Add to the fact that they initially tried forcing E-sports organisations to restrict themselves to only having ONE team in the genre or only staying in LoL if they wanted access or support to their own tour. Its fine, they can do what they want, but thats how it is."
And explain this, I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just curious. |
For zipfero's last point, basically Riot was taking action with the major tournaments organizers ( ESL, Dreamhack, etc ) in order to make them have LoL the only game allowed in the whole MOBA/ARTS genre. They wanted no competition and binding exclusivities over venues, basically.
Since the whole thing got public, they apparently stopped negociating for that. ESL is still said to be completely locked by Riot officials - since they're near bankrupt, Riot is their only reliable money, and they take full advantage of that situation. |
They tried doing it to teams too. Force them to only have LoL teams in the genre. And they made MLG sign an exclusivity agreement for 12 months when they introduced LoL
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2013 22:10 Post subject: |
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| Kurosaki wrote: | | http://www.twitch.tv/yashinu |
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2013 22:16 Post subject: |
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Oh god 
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:09 Post subject: |
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ARE YOU SERIAL
Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
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ded gmae
8 out of 10 dentists prefer zipfero to competing brands(fraich3 and Mutantius)!
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 17:56 Post subject: |
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What the Hell is Fat Princess?
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| TheZor wrote: | | sausje wrote: | http://www.ongamers.com/articles/riot-season-4-lcs-contracts-stipulate-players-cannot-stream-dota-2-blizzard-games/1100-261/
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Yeah, posted that in the Dota2 thread too.. It's pretty amazing
They have Demigod and.. Fat Princess in that list ?  |
Ah sorry man, i don't check that topic 
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 18:04 Post subject: |
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Oh another page btw: http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/riots-contract-page2/
Something tells me this is fake tbh..
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 18:10 Post subject: |
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Does anyone still play Demigod?
Damn Riot! What are you thinking!
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Dec 2013 12:27 Post subject: |
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They are really underrepresented when people talk about the shittiest companies.
Too many brainwashed sheep, probably.
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