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Aquma




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 19:19    Post subject:
In my country (and in many others, I would guess) pre-order package for this game is a product by itself - even if I decide not to pre-order the game after all, the money I spent on it are still gone. Sure, one of the things it offers is a discount for the full game (for the amount the pre-order was priced), but the other is Early Access. So, yea, since EA decided to do it this way, people (or at least some of them, it seems) can actually EXPECT certain things, because they paid for them.
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Gvaz




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:06    Post subject:
I'm sorry, the USA isn't doing that.
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shadow_D




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:09    Post subject:
I'll stay off this game until new year I think, hate competing for mobs and spawns in the newbie area with 1000000+ people. Better to come some weeks later and not have to deal with that lauch-storm. I have no hurry either so...
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:25    Post subject:
About half way through the book ATM and up to this point it's my favorite Karpyshyn novels I've "read". So far it neatly ties together KOTOR, KOTOR2 and TOR. Just about to start listening to the part that seem to deal with the events during KOTOR2.

I can recommend it. Thanks to the background and other flavoring noises and music during intense moments makes it a very easy listen. Not just dry reading like every other audiobook I've listened to so far.
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Sauronich




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:29    Post subject:
shadow_D wrote:
I'll stay off this game until new year I think, hate competing for mobs and spawns in the newbie area with 1000000+ people. Better to come some weeks later and not have to deal with that lauch-storm. I have no hurry either so...

Doesn't the game have different instances of each location precisely for that reason?
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:36    Post subject:
eeew it does? Sad I dont like that


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no9999




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:41    Post subject:
Excellent Guide describing everything in the game.
Great read for when you're still clueless Very Happy

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/12/massivelys-guide-to-swtors-launch-and-beyond/
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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 20:42    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:
shadow_D wrote:
I'll stay off this game until new year I think, hate competing for mobs and spawns in the newbie area with 1000000+ people. Better to come some weeks later and not have to deal with that lauch-storm. I have no hurry either so...

Doesn't the game have different instances of each location precisely for that reason?


30 min cooldown in the instance changes. (atleast in beta there was)
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 21:00    Post subject:
got email, my game was shipped today, so it will arrive tomorrow in my mail box Smile


amnd yondaine, it clearly said "up to 5 days early access" , so no, they dont own anyone anything else, but "up to 5 days".

How people getting upset about stuff like this, is really beyond me (especially since we arent even in that 5 day period yet, go figure).
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 21:14    Post subject:
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Acer




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 21:21    Post subject:
my point is some people think bioware/ea owe them more than the rest of us. they've clearly stated that early access is based on the date of pre order and that they cant guarantee when that will be so they wont notify you in advance. lets be honest, they're doing this to cover their asses first, but still a wise decision so people get early access and wont have problems with laggy servers and crashes etc.

what, some need a notice in advance when they wanna take a dump or bone their gfs? Like an office space type memo?


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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:09    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
my point is some people think bioware/ea owe them more than the rest of us. they've clearly stated that early access is based on the date of pre order and that they cant guarantee when that will be so they wont notify you in advance. lets be honest, they're doing this to cover their asses first, but still a wise decision so people get early access and wont have problems with laggy servers and crashes etc.

what, some need a notice in advance when they wanna take a dump or bone their gfs? Like an office space type memo?


I think the general anger is from the phrasing 'up to 5 days'. Which points that there's a chance you'll get 5 days of early access.

While people on forum were saying, if you registered now you WONT get 5 days, no matter what.

Phrasing 'up to 5 days' would mean that they're randomly giving access to some new buyers, so they might get to start at 15th.

So, anger is justified IF they have no plans on giving early access on the 15th to anyone who hasn't bought the game long long ago. But unjustified if it's just a luck of the draw.

Also, the news that the early access has been moved earlier to 13th, makes me think that those who ordered it really early, get to start on 13th and maybe even all the rest on 15th, OR that this change allows them actually randomly give the 1-5 days for new players.

I ordered on 2nd of December and I'm happy with any early access, ofc hoping for the 15th but...
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Acer




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:11    Post subject:
mtj wrote:
Acer wrote:
my point is some people think bioware/ea owe them more than the rest of us. they've clearly stated that early access is based on the date of pre order and that they cant guarantee when that will be so they wont notify you in advance. lets be honest, they're doing this to cover their asses first, but still a wise decision so people get early access and wont have problems with laggy servers and crashes etc.

what, some need a notice in advance when they wanna take a dump or bone their gfs? Like an office space type memo?


I think the general anger is from the phrasing 'up to 5 days'. Which points that there's a chance you'll get 5 days of early access.

While people on forum were saying, if you registered now you WONT get 5 days, no matter what.

Phrasing 'up to 5 days' would mean that they're randomly giving access to some new buyers, so they might get to start at 15th.

So, anger is justified IF they have no plans on giving early access on the 15th to anyone who hasn't bought the game long long ago. But unjustified if it's just a luck of the draw.

Also, the news that the early access has been moved earlier to 13th, makes me think that those who ordered it really early, get to start on 13th and maybe even all the rest on 15th, OR that this change allows them actually randomly give the 1-5 days for new players.

I ordered on 2nd of December and I'm happy with any early access, ofc hoping for the 15th but...



So much confusion, early play is based on when you pre ordered the game. Theres no random choosing or anything like that.
Hoping I get to play on the 15th, but tbh as long as i get to play this weekend im happy.


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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:18    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
mtj wrote:
Acer wrote:
my point is some people think bioware/ea owe them more than the rest of us. they've clearly stated that early access is based on the date of pre order and that they cant guarantee when that will be so they wont notify you in advance. lets be honest, they're doing this to cover their asses first, but still a wise decision so people get early access and wont have problems with laggy servers and crashes etc.

what, some need a notice in advance when they wanna take a dump or bone their gfs? Like an office space type memo?


I think the general anger is from the phrasing 'up to 5 days'. Which points that there's a chance you'll get 5 days of early access.

While people on forum were saying, if you registered now you WONT get 5 days, no matter what.

Phrasing 'up to 5 days' would mean that they're randomly giving access to some new buyers, so they might get to start at 15th.

So, anger is justified IF they have no plans on giving early access on the 15th to anyone who hasn't bought the game long long ago. But unjustified if it's just a luck of the draw.

Also, the news that the early access has been moved earlier to 13th, makes me think that those who ordered it really early, get to start on 13th and maybe even all the rest on 15th, OR that this change allows them actually randomly give the 1-5 days for new players.

I ordered on 2nd of December and I'm happy with any early access, ofc hoping for the 15th but...



So much confusion, early play is based on when you pre ordered the game. Theres no random choosing or anything like that.
Hoping I get to play on the 15th, but tbh as long as i get to play this weekend im happy.


Except it cannot be if they still write on the ad that up to 5 days or early access. If they know that you cannot get 5 days anymore, they would have to write up to 4, 3, 2 or 1 day[s] of early access.

The advertisement is misleading if you keep offering a bonus which is not available. Once you know it's not available anymore you'll have to adjust your ad.
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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:20    Post subject:
Yeah I only pre-ordered late november so I'm counting on getting access no earlier than the 15th. Anything before is a huge bonus as far as I'm concerned.
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Kurosaki




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:27    Post subject:
BioWare put our clan on a pvp server called "The Restoration Zone" (german pvp). My clanleader just got the info via mail from bioware.
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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 22:58    Post subject:
Kurosaki wrote:
BioWare put our clan on a pvp server called "The Restoration Zone" (german pvp). My clanleader just got the info via mail from bioware.


Y U No???? play on english server?!
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sausje
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:00    Post subject:
Germans NEVER do that, altho sometimes the individual does but just to have a big e-peen Cool Face


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:06    Post subject:
Kurosaki wrote:
BioWare put our clan on a pvp server called "The Restoration Zone" (german pvp). My clanleader just got the info via mail from bioware.


What? They choose the server for you? Fuck Yeah

Well, why not let your class and gameplay time choose from them.
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:23    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Germans NEVER do that, altho sometimes the individual does but just to have a big e-peen Cool Face


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:36    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


Since when?
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:40    Post subject:
is this game any good for none star wars fans?
i mean i like the movies but i don't love them. (at least the old ones)
had a beta invited but never tested it, so i just went to youtube and watched some gameplay videos.
now i wonder why does this game looks like shit? will only sw fanboys play this? should i wait till its f2p?
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sausje
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:42    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
sausje wrote:
Germans NEVER do that, altho sometimes the individual does but just to have a big e-peen Cool Face


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:46    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
sausje wrote:
Germans NEVER do that, altho sometimes the individual does but just to have a big e-peen Cool Face


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


Let them, you'll never change peoples attitude toward Germans anyway. They get teached to hate us in school Wink. Imho they did pretty good if you think about that the whole world hammered down on them in the end. Sad thing is, they were the bad guys Sad

Anyways, he's somewhat right. I always wanted to play my MMO's on english servers but my RL friends didn't because their English is even worse than mine. I'm a sad sad evil German Sad


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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:51    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sausje wrote:
Smikis. wrote:


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


Let them, you'll never change peoples attitude toward Germans anyway. They get teached to hate us in school Wink. Imho they did pretty good if you think about that the whole world hammered down on them in the end. Sad thing is, they were the bad guys Sad


I've nothing against Germans, and I haven't heard of a claim that everyone looks down on Germans.

But don't get me started on Swedes!!! (Just kidding Smile)
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Dec 2011 23:57    Post subject:
the "hate" against germans usually comes from envy and jealousy Smile
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 00:03    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
sausje wrote:
Germans NEVER do that, altho sometimes the individual does but just to have a big e-peen Cool Face


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


hey , you started your whole " i am German i am superior " , so maybe thats why? i personally dont give a shit about who are you, but you never played mmorpgs if you think being German is something to brag about
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 00:08    Post subject:
mtj wrote:
Kurosaki wrote:
BioWare put our clan on a pvp server called "The Restoration Zone" (german pvp). My clanleader just got the info via mail from bioware.


Y U No???? play on english server?!


Well, I would love to, but my friends (yes, I have real life friends Very Happy) aren't good with the english language and they don't want to play on a english server.
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 00:10    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sausje wrote:
Smikis. wrote:


you realize everyone look down on germans, what e-peen can you gain by proclaiming you are german in first place?


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


Let them, you'll never change peoples attitude toward Germans anyway. They get teached to hate us in school Wink. Imho they did pretty good if you think about that the whole world hammered down on them in the end. Sad thing is, they were the bad guys Sad

Anyways, he's somewhat right. I always wanted to play my MMO's on english servers but my RL friends didn't because their English is even worse than mine. I'm a sad sad evil German Sad



considering i am Lithuanian i got plenty of right to hate both germans and russians, while i dont hate either, i dont particularly like both in gaming, Russians well they are Russians cant speak and usually cant play for shit either
Germans are pretty much same with theirs superior complex they will spamm German 24/7 and usually are worse players than French and everyone knows French are worst gamers out there.

Dont get me started on whole country based servers i find it quite pathetic that one would play in server for single country, not to mention your own..
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 00:12    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sausje wrote:


What is that for utter bullshit, why look down on them?

And don't come with retarded excuse of WW2.


Let them, you'll never change peoples attitude toward Germans anyway. They get teached to hate us in school Wink. Imho they did pretty good if you think about that the whole world hammered down on them in the end. Sad thing is, they were the bad guys Sad

Anyways, he's somewhat right. I always wanted to play my MMO's on english servers but my RL friends didn't because their English is even worse than mine. I'm a sad sad evil German Sad



considering i am Lithuanian i got plenty of right to hate both germans and russians, while i dont hate either, i dont particularly like both in gaming, Russians well they are Russians cant speak and usually cant play for shit either
Germans are pretty much same with theirs superior complex they will spamm German 24/7 and usually are worse players than French and everyone knows French are worst gamers out there.

Dont get me started on whole country based servers i find it quite pathetic that one would play in server for single country, not to mention your own..



you have no right to hate "germans" and "russians".
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