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Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 12:55 Post subject: |
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Didn't they fire Darabont? Or was Darabont not happy with the direction of the show and left?
Maybe thats why the quality has declined abit.
Drama and slow pacing ain't generally bad. I don't care much about action.
But the show needs more plotlines on the general zombie background, more survival and above all more science! The CDC episodes were Season 1's finest.
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Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 13:35 Post subject: |
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Shocktrooper wrote: | Didn't they fire Darabont? Or was Darabont not happy with the direction of the show and left?
Maybe thats why the quality has declined abit.
Drama and slow pacing ain't generally bad. I don't care much about action.
But the show needs more plotlines on the general zombie background, more survival and above all more science! The CDC episodes were Season 1's finest. |
From what I know AMC wanted to make the show more cheaply (more indoor scenes, less zombies/special effects etc.), Darabont said something like "fuck off guys that's not Walking Dead" and then he left after some weeks. It's understandable..I wonder how (bad?) the next episodes will be 
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Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 14:38 Post subject: |
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I would imagine Darabont felt like he had his hands tied with the budget cut...."We only have budget so we can have make-up for about one zombie every episode this season, fill the rest up with drama..."...I'd quit too I think?
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Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 16:07 Post subject: |
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Pretty pathetic that the budget could have been cut around Season2. This series almost immediately gets renewed for the next season due to its popularity so its like cutting off their "gift horse". MORE BUDGET PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2011 18:10 Post subject: |
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Euhm, S02E08 will be aired on February 12, 2012 -_-
2 months delay in the middle of a season, GG
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Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2011 21:33 Post subject: |
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thudo wrote: | Pretty pathetic that the budget could have been cut around Season2. This series almost immediately gets renewed for the next season due to its popularity so its like cutting off their "gift horse". MORE BUDGET PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! |
I hope this isnt some new trend.. make awesome high budget first season, get lots of praise from everyone. Make second season, cut down on the budget and quality because the show now have enough viewers anyways :/ Would make me really sad if S2 of Game of Thrones goes the same route as this series..
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Posted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 14:49 Post subject: |
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So, S2 is not finished yet?
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Posted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 14:59 Post subject: |
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aeonfast wrote: | So, S2 is not finished yet? |
No, episode 8 airs February 12th, 2012.
The break is to allow them to complete post production on the remaining episodes, and to lead directly into the premiere of Mad Men in March.
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Posted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 17:07 Post subject: |
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Damn had-been battle-axe MAD MEN is siphoning our funds! SEND THE ZOMBIE HORDE against the '50s gin-drinking male-dominated smokers!
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There is an article on AICN about Frank Darabont's plan for the second season premiere. He outlines it in this letter...
Spoiler: | Dear Eric,
Sure, I’ll confirm that storyline. Why not? Big caveat here though:
CraveOnline is much mistaken in saying this was for a “web series.” This was never meant as a web gimmick, this was intended for use in the actual TV series. I wanted to kick off the 2nd season with the flashback episode Sam describes, which would have followed a squad of Army Rangers getting trapped in the city and trying to survive as Atlanta falls.
The idea was to do this with a very focused “you are there” documentary feel. Not going all shaky-cam, but still making it a bit rawer and grainier than the rest of the show. We’d start with a squad of maybe seven or eight soldiers being dropped into the city by chopper. They have map coordinates they need to get to; they’ve been told to report to a certain place to provide reinforcement. It’s not a special mission, it’s basically a housekeeping measure putting more boots on the ground to reinforce key intersections and installations throughout the city. And we follow this group from the moment the copter sets them down. All they have to do is travel maybe a dozen blocks, a simple journey, but what starts as a no-brainer scenario goes from “the city is being secured” to “holy shit, we’ve lost control, the world is ending.” Our squad gets blocked at every turn and are soon just trying to survive. I wanted to do a really tense, character-driven ensemble story as communications break down, supply lines are lost, escape routes are cut off, morale falls apart, leadership unravels, mutinies heat up, etc. (Yes, this approach owes a spiritual debt to a number of great films, including Walter Hill’s Southern Comfort.)
Along the way, I thought we could briefly dovetail this story with a few established characters from the show. Not to overdo that, mind you, because it could get silly and too coincidental if you load too much into that idea. But I thought it would be great to veer off on a quick narrative detour that brushes our soldiers briefly up against some people we know. Picture our squad arriving at a manned barricade where some civilians are being held back from leaving the city on shoot-to-kill orders to stop the spread of contagion, it’s a panicked high-intensity scene, and in this crowd of desperate people we find Andrea and Amy. The barricade gunners panic, the civilians start to get mowed down by machine gun fire, and in this melee the girls get pulled to safety by some old guy they don’t even know. It’s Dale. He’s nobody to them, just some guy who saw the opportunity to do the right thing and reacted in the moment. This would have been perhaps a minute or two of the episode, just a cool detour like the various outposts the soldiers encounter in Saving Private Ryan, but we would have witnessed the moment that Dale meets Andrea and Amy, seen where that relationship began. I also felt it would be a great way to get Emma Bell back into the series for a moment, because she was so wonderful and we were all so sorry that her character died and she had to leave the show. (Of course if this “brush with established characters” idea didn’t work in the script stage, I’d have tossed it out. You try a lot of ideas like that as you go, see how they play. But I thought this one stood a pretty good chance of being engineered to work well.)
So the story follows these soldiers through hell as the city falls apart and the squad implodes, with Sam’s soldier being the main character and the moral center of the group. He becomes the last survivor of the squad, and he finally gets to the map coordinates they’ve been trying to get to from the start: it’s the barricade at the Atlanta courthouse intersection from the pilot where Rick later finds the tank. The soldier is still alive when he gets there, but he’s been bitten. He’s accomplished his “simple” mission, but he’s gone through seven kinds of hell to do it (including being forced to frag his squad leader), and now he’s dying. And he crawls off into the tank just to get off the street and under cover. As his fever builds and the poor guy starts to hallucinate, he pulls his last grenade and considers ending his life. He sets the grenade down on that shelf for a moment to reflect on all the shit and misery that brought him to this sad end-point of his life, and to dredge up the courage to pull the pin...but before he can act, the fever burns him out and he dies.
The kicker comes in the last moments of this episode:
After the soldier dies this squalid, lonely death...and after a quiet lapse of time...we do a shot-for-shot reprise from the first episode of the first season: Rick comes scrambling into the tank to escape the horde...blows that zombie soldier’s brains out...now Rick’s trapped...fade out...the end.
The notion was to take the “throwaway” tank zombie Rick encountered in the pilot, and tell that soldier’s story. Make him the star of his own movie, follow his journey, but don’t reveal who he is until the end. The idea being that every zombie has a story, every undead extra was once a human being with a life of his/her own...was, in a sense, the star of his own life’s movie. And we’ve followed this one particular guy and seen how his life ended; we witness his struggles, see his good intentions and his failures, and we experience his godawful death in this tank. That’s why I cast Sam as that tank zombie in the first place instead of just casting some extra. I had this story in mind while filming the pilot, and I knew I’d need a superb actor to play that soldier when the time came.
And then starting with Episode 202, we’d be back with Rick’s group and back in step with the flow of the established story from last season.
I always had in mind to throw in a “wild-card” episode every season, maybe as a season opener or closer. Just a separate story more in the feel of an anthology series, one that appears completely off the track of the regular series but actually does wind up tying in somehow by the fade-out. They did that sort of thing on LOST on occasion, and I really respected it. It always seemed like a bold choice that trusted the audience and rewarded their loyalty with a totally unexpected surprise episode every so often.
That’s it from me. I hope things are well on your end.
Best,
Frank |
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AMC Announces 16 Episode Order for The Walking Dead Season 3
Quote: | AMC announced today from the Television Critics Association (TCA) Press Tour in Pasadena, CA that the third season of The Walking Dead will consist of 16 episodes. Previous season orders were for 13 episodes. AMC's international broadcast partner FOX International Channels (FIC) will follow the 16 episode order and structure a similar schedule worldwide. Season 2 of the critically acclaimed global hit series continues to deliver the strongest telecasts for any drama in basic cable history against Adults 18-49, as well as, top international pay-TV ratings on Fox International Channels' (FIC) major markets. The Walking Dead is based on the comic book series written by Robert Kirkman and published by Image Comics. Glen Mazzara serves as the series' showrunner and executive producer. Kirkman, Gale Anne Hurd, David Alpert and Frank Darabont are executive producers with Greg Nicotero as co-executive producer.
The Walking Dead has received rave reviews from countless critics, both domestic and international, who heralded the series as "above all else, The Walking Dead hasn't lost the most important ingredient in its strangely successful recipe: it's thrilling" (The Hollywood Reporter), "...with Dead's riveting cast of characters, the personal dynamics are almost as potent as the gory thrills" (Us Weekly), "The Walking Dead is a feast. Dig in." (The Guardian, UK), "It doesn't even take three minutes to realize that this series is setting standards" (Der Tagesspiegel, Germany).
The Walking Dead secured a 2010 Golden Globe® nomination for Best Television Series - Drama and won the 2011 Emmy® Award for Outstanding Prosthetic Makeup. The series tells the story of the months and years that follow after a zombie apocalypse. It follows a group of survivors, led by police officer Rick Grimes, who travel in search of a safe and secure home.
The Walking Dead's second season returns with all-new episodes Sun., Feb. 13 at 9/8c on AMC. |
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Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2012 14:08 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2012 17:17 Post subject: |
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I'll decide if it's good news or bad news just after having watched this season's second part (especially the episodes not "followed" by Darabont).
But I must admit I don't feel not very optimistic on the future of the show (qualitatively speaking) 
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Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2012 21:47 Post subject: |
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Looking good.. renewing for an excellent Undead/Zack series works for me.
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Posted: Fri, 27th Jan 2012 14:44 Post subject: |
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It looks like Jon Bernthal (who plays Shane) will be leaving the show soon (and his character supposed to die I guess) to star in a new show penned by Frank Darabont called L.A Noir.
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Posted: Fri, 27th Jan 2012 15:29 Post subject: |
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I liked him...that new show sounds incredibly promising though 
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Posted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 12:19 Post subject: |
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Some major spoilers about the second half of the season...
Spoiler: | Nebraska is an awesome episode, most likely one of the best, has nothing to do with Nebraska.
Hershel goes into town to a bar to drown his sorrows with alcohol, Rick and Glenn go after him.
They find him drinking long story short, 2 guys walk in out of nowhere and essentially fake being nice all along wanting to know where they are staying so they can go raid and rape etc. Rick pretty much goes cowboy on em and kills em both. Hershel has a new found admiration for him after this.
Anyway after awhile a bunch of people come looking for their friends and finally find out and there is a fire fight between Rick's people and the others, many of them.
Almost forgot, "Nebraska" is mentioned in their conversation, they tell Rick that maybe Nebraska is a good place to go and after some verbal sparring Rick essentially tells them to !@#$ OFF to Nebraska.
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Shane does not make it through the season, essentially Lori puts into his head that if Rick wasn't around they would still be together. This makes Shane change AGAIN, (he had finally made peace and Lori fucked him up again). Anyway he decides to kill Rick and lures him into the forest chasing after someone you will meet in "Nebraska". Of course Rick isn't stupid he realizes nothing is adding up and tries to give Shane a chance to abandon his plans. Believe it or not Rick loves Shane like a brother, anyway he finally calls Shane on it and Shane basically tells him how Carl and Lori will get over his death. Shane has a gun pointed at Ricks face and seconds away from shooting, when Rick starts to negotiate his way out of it, all along pulling a knife out. Long story short he lunges at Shane and buries the knife in his chest.
Even worse HERES A BIG SPOILER.
SHANE COME'S BACK TO LIFE AS A ZOMBIE! - Carl shoots him, the whole thing is pretty fucked up.
All this causes Rick to slowly change into a Shane if you will, believe me the show is going somewhere so crazy that Shane's death will not even be a burden, he served his purpose by helping Ricks character transform. |
Pretty much as expected, really.
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Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 12:25 Post subject: |
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Qball_ wrote: | Euhm, S02E08 will be aired on February 12, 2012 -_-
2 months delay in the middle of a season, GG |
But...but...but...that is today!!
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Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 12:42 Post subject: |
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can't wait for it to start.. 
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Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 20:47 Post subject: |
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Nooooooo.. it'll be on the hosting sites, as per usual, tonight at 10-11pm EST BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2012 06:06 Post subject: |
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We're back in it folks.. great episode especially the ending..
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Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2012 14:46 Post subject: |
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YES, i'm so happy that kid is dead.
Show finally seems to be picking up again.
Empty again 
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Posted: Mon, 13th Feb 2012 15:57 Post subject: |
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Awww yeah, finally! downloading 
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