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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 02:01    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
BKarza wrote:


Blurb: AvP Movies weren't for me and Alien 3 was a great film.


Agree. Alien 3 wasn't as bad as many people wanted you to believe. Alien 4 (Resurrection) on the other hand Rolling Eyes

Resurrection? hmmmmm, that doesn't exist to me. . . .

PS I added to my above post check out that YT vid if you have time.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 02:03    Post subject:
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I sometimes wonder if it was because I was a child and saw the movies several times at the theater. But the older I get the more I think it was the quality that kept those names there. For instance: There are people in real life I have seen 30 times or more and I still don't remember their names cause they just aren't "remarkable".

6:50 If you have never seen this do yourself a favor. It is pure genius!

Blurb: AvP Movies weren't for me and Alien 3 was a great film.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 02:06    Post subject:
Only two reasons to watch Alien Resurrection; Winona Ryder ("She's so severely fuckable, ain't she?") and Ron Perlman ("Johner, you son of a bitch!") The story itself was a damned travesty and... pseudo Alien Ripley? Give me a fucking break. They even retroactively edited the ending of Alien 3 just so the plot of Alien 4 would make ANY kind of sense at all. In the original, theatrical AND director's cut versions of Alien 3; the queen bursts out of Ripley at the end and Ripley grabs it as she's falling into the vat of steel .... in the new revisions of the film, the queen never bursts out.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the "new" Assembly Cut of Alien 3, especially on the Blu-ray anthology, due to re-recording of the actor's lines, I just don't like this retroactive altering bullshit. The queen burst from Ripley, she died, you didn't "recover her DNA" and you didn't make a Drone Ripley. GTFOver it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 03:35    Post subject:
Ron Pearlman and Sigourney Weaver were Alien Resurrection. I still like that movie more than both AVPs combined.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 03:37    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Only two reasons to watch Alien Resurrection; Winona Ryder ("She's so severely fuckable, ain't she?") and Ron Perlman ("Johner, you son of a bitch!") The story itself was a damned travesty and... pseudo Alien Ripley? Give me a fucking break. They even retroactively edited the ending of Alien 3 just so the plot of Alien 4 would make ANY kind of sense at all. In the original, theatrical AND director's cut versions of Alien 3; the queen bursts out of Ripley at the end and Ripley grabs it as she's falling into the vat of steel .... in the new revisions of the film, the queen never bursts out.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the "new" Assembly Cut of Alien 3, especially on the Blu-ray anthology, due to re-recording of the actor's lines, I just don't like this retroactive altering bullshit. The queen burst from Ripley, she died, you didn't "recover her DNA" and you didn't make a Drone Ripley. GTFOver it.


Yeah, but the Dr. in Alien 3 took blood samples of her in one of the scenes, so that explains the merged DNA ever existing. You knew that the Weyland-Yutani Corporation raided the prison at the end and of course found the blood samples.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 03:40    Post subject:
I still say the entire plot, flimsy like paper as it was, in AR was just too much fluff. 200 years later, cloning Ripley and the Alien from a drop of preserved blood? Puhlease.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 03:47    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I still say the entire plot, flimsy like paper as it was, in AR was just too much fluff. 200 years later, cloning Ripley and the Alien from a drop of preserved blood? Puhlease.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 03:47    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
Ron Pearlman and Sigourney Weaver were Alien Resurrection. I still like that movie more than both AVPs combined.

agree with you, even if it was the last act of the entire Aliens series.
Aliens vs Predator as movies were so...meh.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 13:20    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
briangw wrote:

AVP2? Nah, the one before that was the worst. When the Predator gave the Alien tail as a spear and the head as a shield to the black chick, EVERYONE in the theater groaned.
Bah, I loved that scene
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 15:19    Post subject:
Read the comics, you Luddite
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 16:16    Post subject:
Just watched the first two movies, Alien and Aliens. Aliens was so much better, I don't understand why would anyone say that the first one is better.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 16:44    Post subject:
The first one tried to be scary [wasnt ever scary anyway], but now it looks too slow paced and kind of boring. Also the acting is bad in some scenes. Aliens widthstood the test of time. Too bad J.Cameron doesnt make good movies anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 18:12    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
Just watched the first two movies, Alien and Aliens. Aliens was so much better, I don't understand why would anyone say that the first one is better.


The first one was scary for its time and the effects were good too. The chest bursting alien and Bishop's injuries were well done for the time. The scene with Dallas in the air ducts is worth its weight in gold. It was one of the best suspenseful scenes ever done in a movie imho.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 18:18    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 18:19    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
The scene with Dallas in the air ducts is worth its weight in gold. It was one of the best suspenseful scenes ever done in a movie imho.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 18:26    Post subject:
The first Alien is one of the the best sci-fi movies ever created [along with Tarkovsky's Solaris and Kubrick's Space Odyssey]. Pure psychological terror with real special effects from the mechatronics pioneer Carlo Rambaldi. Adding to that mix one of the most disturbing surrealist of the 20th century [Giger] and one of the most prolific film music composer [Goldsmith] have to give a perfect combo.

The secon Alien is a solid action flick [unfortunately this one is also anti-capitalistic just like every Cameron movie]. Anyway, Aliens is called by many the best sequel of 20th century and I would agree with that.

Alien 3 made by Fincher is a decent psychological-thriller. After poor reception Fincher wanted to remove his name from the credits [which is the best comment on the movie quality].

Alien 4. I had high hopes for this one, mostly because it was directed by Jeunet [good director of very akward movies] and Pitof [decent special effects artist and director of even more akward movies]. I was hoping that Europeans will put some thought into this [instead of the usual Michael Bay's style explosions] but I was wrong. Alien 4 ended up as generic action movie with few interesting [but wasted] ideas.

I won't comment on the AVP movies, because they are an insult to my intellect.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 18:30    Post subject:
VonMises wrote:
Anyway, Aliens is called by many the best sequel of 20th century and I would agree with that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:14    Post subject:
VonMises wrote:
The first Alien is one of the the best sci-fi movies ever created


+1

The damn movie scared the shit out of me when I watched it first time. I was 13 then. The second one was The Thing, classic made by John Carpenter.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:23    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:

The second one was The Thing, classic made by John Carpenter.


Another great horrror classic! Too bad Hollywood is producing a remake as we speak lol wut
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:33    Post subject:
Well I grew up with the second AvP game being my love from this universe and Aliens does exactly what I would want from a movie from this universe. Maybe that's why the first movie seemed very average to me. Just watched the third movie and it wasn't worse, it was pretty much the same thing as the first one for me. Now from what I understood now comes the truly horrible part from the franchise as I have to watch Resurrection.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:40    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Too bad Hollywood is producing a remake as we speak lol wut


I'm certainly going to watch it. I know it won't beat the original cuz there is only one John Carpenter. Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:46    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
The damn movie scared the shit out of me when I watched it first time. I was 13 then. The second one was The Thing, classic made by John Carpenter.


The Thing is obviously the best Carpenter's movie and one of the best in horror sci-fi genre. Even the first Predator was not that bad [although it was more action movie than a horror].

But unfortunately horror sci-fi genre died in the 80's.

Nowadays we got Michael Bay and his CGI idiocy for american teenagers.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 19:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ash* Very Happy


Damn, you're right. I'm going to have to punish myself by re-watching all the movies this weekend. Arrrgghh! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 20:11    Post subject:
Some punishment grinhurt I think I'll join you and "punish" myself too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 20:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ash* Very Happy

Thank you


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 22:02    Post subject:
And finished with the Alien movies. Resurrection wasn't that bad actually, it was just more cheesy, not so serious in some parts, but overall it was really enjoyable. I actually found it somewhat better than the third one which was just the first movie in another location.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 23:07    Post subject:
Ressurection was too...... "French" for me. Yeah, that works, it's a good way to put it. French.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 23:40    Post subject:
I liked the cast of ressurrection and the cheesiness, but the wierd humanod alien part was kinda lame. I need moar sci fi :<

E: really itching to read Banks' "Excession" now D:


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 23:51    Post subject:
I really really hope this doesn't turn into another Turok (aka generic first person shooter #15456823413214), but alas, this is the feeling I get from watching the gameplay videos. Just looks so fucking bland. And I don't mean the awful textures.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Aug 2011 13:09    Post subject:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-11-aliens-colonial/719817 interview

Funny part is when he talks about the new alien "crusher"
You can't kill it from the front, you have to go around it.
My predictions are coming true Very Happy

Now we just have to wait for the crab alien!
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