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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2011 23:16    Post subject: closed source model
And yes, i'm making it under Useless Void as our dear Android bootlicking users would want it.

Just an easy and plain explanation as to why Android or any other open source OS/platform fails:

No guidelines! Anyone can make anything they want, they can spread it everywhere they want. Even if you make an app for a phone using Android you can quite easily get it to the market service. No one forces you to use the guidelines, so most of the apps i've used on HTC Desire just suck.

Now let's take iPhone - if someone creates something for it, there's a fucking mercantile quantity of guidelines to follow as Apple is forcing it upon! Otherwise you can't spread your app on official channel.

FUCKING CENTRAL CONTROL, THAT'S WHAT IMPORTANT

I'm not even going down to the business sector - if they had to use some Linux distro for client OS they'd be completely stupid without any proper support.

Closed Source is an essential if you want non-buggy working experience in software world.

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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 00:38    Post subject:
Thats why i have an iPhone Smile

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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 01:02    Post subject:
hmmm... sounds logical...

why there are no apple stores in north korea?!
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 01:34    Post subject:
YESSSS,,, conttirl is evertryhing.... and tis is why totalitarian regimes totttaly pwns democracy, the key here emperor need to love his people and land Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 07:39    Post subject:
Where is Rhonrin to talk about the advantages of Anarchy? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 08:47    Post subject:
tl:dr hooray for android!
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 09:11    Post subject:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:
YESSSS,,, conttirl is evertryhing.... and tis is why totalitarian regimes totttaly pwns democracy, the key here emperor need to love his people and land Smile


Wow, jumping from one world to another. Comparing political system to software end product's source limitations.

Would an average end-user choose Windows/OS X or some open source based one? Wrong, they wouldn't want Linux. Again, why? No central support - there's no direct way to contact in case of needed support, and the average end-user is never gonna browse the Internets for corresponding forums.

And again, your comparison failed miserably. Democracy still assumes there's laws (framework) to go by. Democracy doesn't mean there's anarchy in that country. Open Source practically means just that - even if it doesn't make any good figurative relation. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 10:23    Post subject:
Yeah, because obviously all those Linux distributions and UNIX based operating systems failed miserably Laughing
OS X is a semi-closed source version of a UNIX O/S, and that still fails miserably. A lot of specialised and professional software doesn't support OS X or have announced to drop support for it. Why? Because it is that closed and that annoying to work with.

An end-user also doesn't choose OS X, because you can't choose it. You choose to overpay for Mac hardware, side "bonus" being OS X. Please don't compare Windows and OS X like that, because they're completely separate products. Both are closed source for the most part, but Windows is a thousand times more advanced in what it does and doesn't do. Apple use mostly open-source packages and fail to update/compile these properly; because they're Apple, important parts of their OS are closed, most notably the driver system. Windows on the other hand uses a lot of proprietary packages, but just about everything is also exposed through a relatively well documented API. Windows also supports just about any hardware you throw at it, as Linux and basically *every* other OS does, whereas OS X doesn't support anything and nowadays even has hardcoded checks built in. Quite funny, just open the Lion installer package, there's even *scripts* to check whether you're virtualising it (and if you are, obviously Apple go "HAHA FUCK YOU"). Easy to remove, but also shows how "innovative" they are.

I agree that there need to be guidelines for Android, but that has got absolutely jackshit to do with open or closed source. They can just as easily keep it as open as it is now and still enforce some guidelines.



At least I can create apps without having to buy a 600 EUR iPhone and a 1000 EUR Mac (oh sorry, forgot about the Mini at 600 EUR Laughing) just to fucking test them (there's other ways to develop these days, but it's still shit without OS X). Aside from the 99 USD fee to get some documentation. Yeah, Apple-style closed source is definitely the way to go Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 10:29    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 10:30    Post subject:
Adobe still do most of their product tutorials on OS X.

Problem?

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On a serious note, what actually matters on both of these main systems is how sleek, aesthetic, pleasant, easy to use it is. And let's be honest here, drivers are much more complete for OS X. Windows, even 7, is so messy and unfriendly on the first sight i'm about to throw up.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:02    Post subject:
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Knew that would draw something out, use the word "drivers" when Apple is involved and you quickly see who has a clue and who hasn't Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:05    Post subject:
So Watergem is back again. So, married any supermodels lately? How big are your biceps now? Nice car, Veyron is it? Wow.. Steve Jobs left you as sole beneficiary in his will!? WOW!
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:29    Post subject:
iNatan is a hypocrite at its finest. First he bashed Apple, then he got his iPhone and now he loves it, but still trying to bash Apple as a whole a little bit.

But if someone had to take the iPhone away from him, he'd cry like a baby. Just be a man and admit Apple makes good products, has a nice market, and a beautiful support.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:32    Post subject:
I admit Apple has a nice market (app store).


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:32    Post subject:
hoopadoopa wrote:
iNatan is a hypocrite at its finest. First he bashed Apple, then he got his iPhone and now he loves it, but still trying to bash Apple as a whole a little bit.

But if someone had to take the iPhone away from him, he'd cry like a baby. Just be a man and admit Apple makes good products, has a nice market, and a beautiful support.


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 11:36    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I admit Apple has a nice market (app store).


And why? Because of the guidelines.

Android fucking fails.

I bet in 2-3 years Windows Phone series will even beat Android.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 12:35    Post subject:
hoopadoopa wrote:
iNatan wrote:
I admit Apple has a nice market (app store).


And why? Because of the guidelines.

Android fucking fails.

I bet in 2-3 years Windows Phone series will even beat Android.

Except that UI guidelines are in the works and planned for the next SDK release Smile
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