[XBOX360] How to Play AP2.5 games without LT+
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mug2k




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010 14:12    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
mug2k wrote:
Do Kinect games works with this method or do they ask you to update to a newer dash ?.
kinect requires an update to work. And its not the dash, because I had to download it right after I plugged in my kinect. So I don't know. No kinect games are AP25 tho (yet).


So in theory it should work because non-AP25 and patched AP25 games work fine.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010 14:20    Post subject:
yeah, just burn a game first and see if it boots Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Dec 2010 04:35    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Ok got the update from 360iso now i dont have AC B for 360 can i still go ahead and update the dashboard update ?

From where can i get the new update from except from ACB and NFS HP
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Dec 2010 17:27    Post subject:
Thats a beta dashboard and the dashboard which comes with ACB is not a beta so not sure.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Dec 2010 17:46    Post subject:
Oh,didn't know that..so Im not sure too..

May I ask why is such a problem updating from those games ? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Dec 2010 20:01    Post subject:
Does this method ban your console (if previously is not banned) or you copletely avoid the AP 2.5 thing?

Want to know that because i use one 360 for offline play and unflashed one for online - changing the hdd. Will my stats (played offline games and unlocked achievements) get updated or the profile will get corrupted every time when i connect my unflashed 360 to the net?
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Dec 2010 21:37    Post subject:
If only a banned console can corrupt a profile, and I assume none of your consoles are banned, would your profile get corrupted?
Worst case: one of your console gets banned; and then... well, then the above mentioned shit happens. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Dec 2010 02:52    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
Oh,didn't know that..so Im not sure too..

May I ask why is such a problem updating from those games ? Smile

I'm already done with ACB and NFS HP on PS3 and PC respectively so
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Dec 2010 16:51    Post subject:
I have Fable III with old dashboard should i update dashboard then play or on older dashboard, update i mean using the Kinect update ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Dec 2010 11:49    Post subject:
cobALT wrote:
If only a banned console can corrupt a profile, and I assume none of your consoles are banned, would your profile get corrupted?
Worst case: one of your console gets banned; and then... well, then the above mentioned shit happens. Laughing


Damn my bad english, you sure didn't understand me.
Little short this time - really want to know if unbanned 360 (which i never will connect to live) is possible to get banned offline while you use this method and play Ap 2.5 games?

Asking for that because i heard about some offline bans when the new protection come out.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Dec 2010 11:51    Post subject:
Hitachi (Fat) iXtreme LT+ v1.1

Code:
Official release of the iXtreme LT+ for Hitachi (FAT Models)

- Supports AP25 backups for Hitachi 78,79
- Other Hitachis (32,36,40,46,47,58,59) updated to conform to LT spec
- Optimised PFI code to accomodate AP25 SS data
- Defeats current AP25 protection
- Protects console from logging AP25 violation for a period of 3 minutes, turn off/on console on black screen bootup before your 3 minutes is up
- Full disc stealth used by default
- Waveless booting , disc images are assumed to be correct!
- Split-Vid used as default

If booting an AP25 title without AP25 SS on 78 or 79 game will not boot but will still be protected from logging AP25 violation on current dash 12611 for approx 3 minutes
If LT+ encounters an unknown AP25 challenge, game will not boot but console will still be protected from logging AP25 violation on current dash 12611 for approx 3 minutes

AP25 SS are region specific for region locked games

LT+ for slim 9504 and 0225 is progressing, soon.

Thanks go to Team Jungle for their hard work and efforts in the development process.
Thanks also go to Team Xecuter for their generous support to this project.


for anyone with hitachi drives Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Dec 2010 12:08    Post subject:
My girlfriend bought me a Xecuter Blaster CK3 for Christmas Smile

http://www.ck3.co.uk/blasterck3.html

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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 13:28    Post subject:
Hey I have a question. I have a LiteOn drive, flashed with LT+ and installed the latest update from the Microsoft website. Now AP25 games like Brotherhood and NFS won't boot! Is this normal with this setup or is something wrong?

–Also I read something about patching ISO's with abgx. Should this still be necessary if you already have LT+? Thanks for any help and merry xmas Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 13:36    Post subject:
You need to patch those isos,if u downloaded first rlses...no matter if u have LT+. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 14:12    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
Hey I have a question. I have a LiteOn drive, flashed with LT+ and installed the latest update from the Microsoft website. Now AP25 games like Brotherhood and NFS won't boot! Is this normal with this setup or is something wrong?

–Also I read something about patching ISO's with abgx. Should this still be necessary if you already have LT+? Thanks for any help and merry xmas Wink
its like this on PC you have copy protections like Tages or Starforce or Securom that need Data Measurements [DPM] to help you emulate your clone CD/DVD that are in .mds alcohol file, like it was said before AP2.5 works like those PC CPs so you need a none spoofed drive and a AP2.5 Data Measurement from a game , then you add those in the Iso to emulate/fool the copy protection

a fine Example is this :
Code:
TEAM XECUTER PRESENTS AP2.5 PATCH FOR LT+

GAME: NEED FOR SPEED HOT PURSUIT
FORMAT: XBOX 360
REGION: PAL
SCENE RELEASE: LoCAL

Notes: Use PPF-O-MATIC to apply The patch to your ISO then the game will boot on your LT+ flashed
drive and will be XBL Safe.
oh and here is a word of warning each language version has different AP2.5 Data Measurement , so for JPN version you need JPN AP for this game and so on ... same goes for region free games , if a RF is from JPN you need a JPN AP, if the same title is from USA you need USA AP from that title even if they both are RF

PS. the new version of abgx360 1.0.5 inserts ap25 dpm into isos so get that


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 16:13    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
Hey I have a question. I have a LiteOn drive, flashed with LT+ and installed the latest update from the Microsoft website. Now AP25 games like Brotherhood and NFS won't boot! Is this normal with this setup or is something wrong?

–Also I read something about patching ISO's with abgx. Should this still be necessary if you already have LT+? Thanks for any help and merry xmas Wink
its like this on PC you have copy protections like Tages or Starforce or Securom that need Data Measurements [DPM] to help you emulate your clone CD/DVD that are in .mds alcohol file, like it was said before AP2.5 works like those PC CPs so you need a none spoofed drive and a AP2.5 Data Measurement from a game , then you add those in the Iso to emulate/fool the copy protection

a fine Example is this :
Code:
TEAM XECUTER PRESENTS AP2.5 PATCH FOR LT+

GAME: NEED FOR SPEED HOT PURSUIT
FORMAT: XBOX 360
REGION: PAL
SCENE RELEASE: LoCAL

Notes: Use PPF-O-MATIC to apply The patch to your ISO then the game will boot on your LT+ flashed
drive and will be XBL Safe.
oh and here is a word of warning each language version has different AP2.5 Data Measurement , so for JPN version you need JPN AP for this game and so on ... same goes for region free games , if a RF is from JPN you need a JPN AP, if the same title is from USA you need USA AP from that title even if they both are RF

PS. the new version of abgx360 1.0.5 inserts ap25 dpm into isos so get that


Hey that's useful info Smile. So let me get this straight: the best bet is to simply have ABGX check a downloaded ISO and patch it with "AP25 dpm".

One question though! If ISOs with AP25 have to be patched anyway, why wouldn't groups release prepatched ISOs?


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 19:23    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao wrote:

Hey that's useful info Smile. So let me get this straight: the best bet is to simply have ABGX check a downloaded ISO and patch it with "AP25 dpm".

One question though! If ISOs with AP25 have to be patched anyway, why wouldn't groups release prepatched ISOs?

1. they get the game from non official sources most of those can't properly dump a game [kreon drive,data corruption etc..]
2. each language version has different AP2.5 Data Measurement , ap patches are on retail dvds
3. if scene would dump ap2.5 you would see the good old SHIT WARS like they where on GameCube scrubbed vs none scrubbed vs added intros vs not added intros vs ripped shit vs etc... Laughing oh right we already got those remember those SHIT WARS Splitvid vs no Splitvid vs Kreon vs none Kreon vs SS1 vs you are shit becasue we got SS2 vs your game is shit we got proper that has ONE language more 11111!!!!!oneoeoene Laughing

now i think its better the way it is , you get your illegal data from scene ssv1 , and from the p2p none scene abgx ap2,5 with SS2 = both make the new SSv3 from real retail discs

hey at lest abgx will tell you if a game is AP25 to save you the hassle of a bad burn


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 20:46    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:

Hey that's useful info Smile. So let me get this straight: the best bet is to simply have ABGX check a downloaded ISO and patch it with "AP25 dpm".

One question though! If ISOs with AP25 have to be patched anyway, why wouldn't groups release prepatched ISOs?

1. they get the game from non official sources most of those can't properly dump a game [kreon drive,data corruption etc..]
2. each language version has different AP2.5 Data Measurement , ap patches are on retail dvds
3. if scene would dump ap2.5 you would see the good old SHIT WARS like they where on GameCube scrubbed vs none scrubbed vs added intros vs not added intros vs ripped shit vs etc... Laughing oh right we already got those remember those SHIT WARS Splitvid vs no Splitvid vs Kreon vs none Kreon vs SS1 vs you are shit becasue we got SS2 vs your game is shit we got proper that has ONE language more 11111!!!!!oneoeoene Laughing

now i think its better the way it is , you get your illegal data from scene ssv1 , and from the p2p none scene abgx ap2,5 with SS2 = both make the new SSv3 from real retail discs

hey at lest abgx will tell you if a game is AP25 to save you the hassle of a bad burn


So basically prepatched scene ISOs are a rarity because scene dudes are releasing non-retail games? But in theory a copy of a final retail version would not need any patching.

And if ABGX tells a game is AP25 it will automatically patch it correctly? So the separate ppf patch released for NFS is actually superfluous.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 14:40    Post subject:
Well fuck me, I finally got it working! Ran the Brotherhood ISO through ABGX. It detected AP25, did some autofixing and the red error messages were gone. My Xbox dvd drive has gone to shit however and was verifying the disc for 15 minutes or so . But it made it past the security check and the game booted.

So now I have to go spend €30 on a new LiteOn drive I guess. Good thing I know someone who will place and flash the drive for zip Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 16:50    Post subject:
Can someone confirm that this method also work on Deadspace 2?

edit: just tested its working.


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 17:41    Post subject:
I think so,reading some comments on few forums including x360iso..ppl say it's working..gonna try it for myself but not until tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 19:50    Post subject:
Not sure how long this hack/exploit would work. Unless some newer games force us to update the dashboard, this would be a feasible option.
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 20:47    Post subject:
Enjoy while it lasts mate.. Very Happy Im not thinking about that at all,when time comes..well,then it's time for me to think about flashing it again.It's a bit difficult to find someone to flash it for me here,so that's the only reason why Im still going with this " fix "... and I hope it lasts many more months.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 21:01    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
Enjoy while it lasts mate.. Very Happy Im not thinking about that at all,when time comes..well,then it's time for me to think about flashing it again.It's a bit difficult to find someone to flash it for me here,so that's the only reason why Im still going with this " fix "... and I hope it lasts many more months.. Laughing


Get yourself an Xecuter Blaster CK3 and flash with ease.

I always had issues getting someone to flash my drive but now I can do it myself Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 21:52    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
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Enjoy while it lasts mate.. Very Happy Im not thinking about that at all,when time comes..well,then it's time for me to think about flashing it again.It's a bit difficult to find someone to flash it for me here,so that's the only reason why Im still going with this " fix "... and I hope it lasts many more months.. Laughing


Get yourself an Xecuter Blaster CK3 and flash with ease.

I always had issues getting someone to flash my drive but now I can do it myself Smile


Good to know mate,Im not that into this flashing stuff so I will have this on my mind when time comes..tnx. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 23:06    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
headshot wrote:
BLaM! wrote:
Enjoy while it lasts mate.. Very Happy Im not thinking about that at all,when time comes..well,then it's time for me to think about flashing it again.It's a bit difficult to find someone to flash it for me here,so that's the only reason why Im still going with this " fix "... and I hope it lasts many more months.. Laughing


Get yourself an Xecuter Blaster CK3 and flash with ease.

I always had issues getting someone to flash my drive but now I can do it myself Smile


Good to know mate,Im not that into this flashing stuff so I will have this on my mind when time comes..tnx. Smile


unless the drive is a ixtreme lt+...

then you will have to do some soldering
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 23:31    Post subject:
It can only be worse from now on.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Jan 2011 09:14    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
Enjoy while it lasts mate.. Very Happy Im not thinking about that at all,when time comes..well,then it's time for me to think about flashing it again.It's a bit difficult to find someone to flash it for me here,so that's the only reason why Im still going with this " fix "... and I hope it lasts many more months.. Laughing

LOL! I will indeed. I'll probably update the firmware myself this time. It's a good thing that we can dump the key using the latest Jungle Flasher on the IXtreme 1.6 flashed drives. Mine is one of the older 7XXX series Lite-On. I haven't opened my console till now, so this would be quite a challenge.

I wish it was best if I could somehow get a JTAG'd Jasper, but I guess I'm completely out of luck. FUCK MS for blocking the exploit completely. Sad
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Yeah,you are lucky with that 1.6 , it's much easier no need for soldering...and ofc JTAG would be the best solution.
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