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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 01:23 Post subject: |
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Not a fan of those vocals (but then I rarely like clean vocals), but it's not bad otherwise.
Neverland is another decent turkish band if you're into power metal.
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 01:26 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 01:27 Post subject: |
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How did you find a song by รผmit besen
He had this very emo song and a turkish rock band covered it. He wasn't very happy with the result 
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:03 Post subject: |
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Off topic question: What's with the hatred against emos? Is it some kind of 'look this guy dresses like a girl he strokes my homophobia' or 'oh look how different he is I hate different people we should all be same'? Just wondering. I have no problems whatsoever with emos or apacis as they call in Turkey so what's with the fraternal testosteron show?
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:09 Post subject: |
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I think you misunderstand...
It is used more like an "insult" as opposed to hatred toward people. Like saying someone is gay... It's not like we are homophobes or that there is something wrong with being homosexual. Just a harmless jab. At least that is how it is for me when I call Waldo "emo". 
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:14 Post subject: |
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And why did an innocent single word, defining a culture's follower, transform into a kind of 'insult' in the first place? Could it be the 'followers seem to be hated, abhored, detested, despised because of their life style?
Edit: If you are using the emo word for joking disregard this message.
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:18 Post subject: |
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Well, it is one of these words, you know? For example when I say "Jeez, that looks gay", I don't mean "this is something homosexual" With "emo" it is a joking insult when people complain a lot and "cry" about their life. Or at least that is how I see it anyway... 
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:24 Post subject: |
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Well Leo, if you are using the word 'gay' for insult or another kind of negative thing: you may not be a gay hater in real life, but aren't you copying and supporting the gay haters' behaviour by using the term as an insult? May be this is what all those gay haters wanted you to be. Not trying to sound rude Leo, but I think using the gay term for an insult should be left to 12 year old nextgen console crowd.
Edit: You may use the Emo term short form of emotional as a joke but when you imply the long haired girly dudes with make up, it's othering.
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:34 Post subject: |
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Well, to be honest, no, I don't feel like that. I know pretty well myself and my views, and I know to put the "gay" and similar words in such context that they don't sound racy. I don't participate in conversations with people who are homophobic or racist, and I trust the people I do talk with to understand I am only joking.
What you say is similar to laughing at a silly "racist" picture in the epic thread. Am I helping racist idiots by laughing, just because they might laugh also? I have discussed this with Lutzifer, if I post a funny pic or joke that dances on racist stereotypes, does it mean I'm racist? I don't think so, it just means I can look at how something is politically incorrect and laugh at the silly stereotypes.
Again, if I post something out of context in a place where people do not know me, I can't expect to not be called "homophobe" or "racist", but on this board I allow myself to speak more freely because people know me, and know my views.
An example of all this is the expression "macfag" we all use when speaking about certain Mac users. I don't think we are homophobic. 
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:47 Post subject: |
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Laughing at something normal is a sign of seeing it degraded, despisbale, dishonourful, shameful etc. If you are laughing at something like 'an afro american kid getting scared after seeing KFC closed or niggers are blue niggers are red' yes indeed you are supporting those racist dumbfucks because in the first place they see and think being an African American is a shameful thing. What's there to laugh at that kid getting scared? Can't they like chicken? Aren't you stereotyping by thinking every other afro american is fond of chicken? I think it's a clear sign of racism.
I get you you are doing jokes and everybody knows and likes you including me. Also I think the macfag term is derived from 4chan's newfags, oldfags etc. since I don't take those 4channers serious I don't give a rat's arse about applying fag suffixes to every other word. At its base it's something wrong but I don't give a fuck since it's 4chan.
Edit: I know that KFC picture is a photoshop by the way.
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 18:55 Post subject: |
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But you see, I am not laughing at the black kid being scared, usually what gets me in these particular pic is the silly stereotype that black people like "chickan" (you know, the "Oh lawd, iz dar sum chikan"). The entire stereotype is so retarded, it just gets me every time. 
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 19:03 Post subject: |
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Okay matey, now I get you. Thanks for the little discussion by the way.
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Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 20:41 Post subject: |
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IpwnU just look at the "fag" episode of soutpark
I love this turkish emo songs, very emotional 
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Posted: Fri, 21st May 2010 10:11 Post subject: |
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Frant wrote: |
btw. the word Gay means: happy, easy going.
and the word fag means: cigarette, stump. |
In what language ? Cause it doesnt in mine 
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