[XBOX360] [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 16:39    Post subject:
It's not unreasonable to think that the PS3 version does indeed look better than the 360 due to the game being developed for the PS3 first and then ported to the 360. We see it all the time when the roles are reversed and when it is the other way around there are plenty of posts all across the internet trying to rub PS3 fans faces in it.

That's why this is so funny. Now that the tables are turned it suddenly doesn't matter that one supposedly has better texturing, and a higher resolution... and on top of that it is all on one disc.

Face it folks, no matter which way you look at it, the PS3 version would be the version to buy if you had a choice.

I wouldn't buy a Final Fantasy game so even though I do have a PS3 I'll give it a whirl for free on the 360. If I were a fan of the series I would definetely go for the obvious choice and buy the better PS3 version of the game.

Sometimes the truth hurts.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 16:42    Post subject:
archermac wrote:

pic on the left is neither PS3 or 360 version. it's from dev kit that's why it has no UI elements visible and looks so crisp as it has 8x or even 16x antialiasing and no console can do that. its just like rockstar used to release gta3 screenshots with loads of antialiasing for PS2
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 16:50    Post subject:
For those who are in love with their hardware it does matter, for those who look at the game it doesn't matter....and then there are those who are interested in the technology and why does one look a little better than the other one.
There would be something to complain about if it was known to be a shit port like Bayonetta with visual and performance issues...other ports are pretty equal. Yeah, AC2 has better textures on the xbox than the PS3 which you can notice and keep track of only in side by side comparison...does it matter? No, it doesn't...except for fanboys it does.
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nenoriu wrote:
pic on the left is neither PS3 or 360 version. it's from dev kit that's why it has no UI elements visible and looks so crisp as it has 8x or even 16x antialiasing and no console can do that. its just like rockstar used to release gta3 screenshots with loads of antialiasing for PS2

Quite possible really but it's SE's fault they're feeding us bullshit Smile
If anyone here was keeping up with the game before the JP version was released they were sometimes showing pixel-perfect images in japanese and english, and they even showed exact same gameplay videos with japanese and english...fuck SE Very Happy
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Anyway, the JP PS3 version has 7 unlockable themes after you complete specific trophies, I wonder if the xbox version or even the english PS3 one will have that....it's nothing special but still nice Very Happy
Requirements to get the themes in the japanese PS3 version inside the spoiler
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edit: Looks like 7 gamerpics... http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/281/gpi.png


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:08    Post subject:
I am increasingly concerned with feedback from FF13, when I read about the linearity I assumed we were talking about a typical amount but I am starting to believe it may be a major gamebreaker.
The ability to roam freely in a FF world is probably one of most important elements of the game along with story environments and combat, yet we read that due to the inherent nature of 'HD' its 'impossible' to create a free-roaming 3D world, yet I have seen just that in White Knight Chronicles, so which is it bad/lazy design or 'HD' is just too much work?

http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=11619

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I'm about 27 hours into the game now and it's still extremely linear - no choices and not a town or world map in sight. The battle system really is great but the rest is very disappointing. It's a bad sign when more than half way through the game I still don't feel like it's really started, at least as far as my expectations were concerned. Not nearly as good as Lost Odyssey in my opinion.


27 hours into the game and no town?
THAT worries me.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:20    Post subject:
Last time I mentioned the lack of towns and any real exploration, I got flamed and insulted. So yeah... good luck with that TB Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:25    Post subject:
You can explore Pulse from chapter 11 (of 13)
Not much in it except monsters and 60 side missions...that's all the free-roam there is here, a huge landscape Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:42    Post subject:
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Last time I mentioned the lack of towns and any real exploration, I got flamed and insulted by TB Wink


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yeah he is still raging his imaginative console war on the new levels
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:43    Post subject:
totally off topic but is it only me or does it seem more and more like Spiderman has nothing else to do except come in about every mutli console or ps3 exclusive thread, talk trash, flame some people and overall just wank a lot? O.o
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:46    Post subject:
That's hfric for you Sad

He did have one point though... remember this TB?

twobells wrote:


Sabin what's up with you at the moment?
You're talking rubbish again, all good rpgs depend on story, it's at the very heart of what makes them a rpg.
Story, great combat mechanics, item design and npc interaction.
You sure you aren't looking back with rose coloured glasses on the games of our youth?


Oooooh, self-realisation stings like a bitch doesn't it? Rolling Eyes Or am I still looking back at the games of our youth with "rose coloured glasses" (it's actually rose-tinted) because we expect a little exploration in our RPGs?


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:48    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's hfric for you Wink

He did have one point though... remember this TB?


Not questioning that.
It just feels like he's doing it more and more lately and mostly to piss of TB it seems Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:48    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
totally off topic but is it only me or does it seem more and more like Spiderman has nothing else to do except come in about every mutli console or ps3 exclusive thread, talk trash, flame some people and overall just wank a lot? O.o
read TB comments and you understand when our Russian friend asked a question about the xbox TB go raging how the ps3 is Teh best Laughing he does that in every PS3 topic ... and when the game sucks he calls you a troll and says your delusional
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:51    Post subject:
just to derail this thread even more Very Happy
What kinda "sucky games" are we talking about? O.o
Since I've been only following some of the PS3 threads like Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, MAG, Heavy Rain the last couple of weeks. And none of these games are especially sucky, except if


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 17:57    Post subject:

burn the heretic

oh and for those asking "how long is it" the review version on the PS3 that we got, was finished in 25h with only 10 side quest ... so add 10h plus (for those all fetch quests) and this game is only 35h :/ when Lost Odyssey what a 120h game... thats well ouch really pathetic
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:02    Post subject:
Anyway, exploration or no, I'm under no allusions that this is going to be "teh bestest!" It's just not going to happen, that train has already left the station -- instead it's just going to be another great story-driven RPG that is going to occupy my time for a few hours.

I don't care which "looks better!" PS3 or 360, just as long as both offer the same experience.

@Spiderman

That's complete and utter bullshit. You are THE only person who's said that so far. Every other "recognised" review and preview and playtest has said 40hrs+ minimum. Well, unless you're deliberately rushing through the game just to prove that it's short Smug
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:08    Post subject:
and then all "recognised" review and preview and playtest has said MW2 has a 10h Singleplayer campaign.... but when the game came you could finish it in 3h on easy and in 4h on hard

its really that short
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:11    Post subject:
We'll see.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:24    Post subject:
*imagines how a 4h playthrough of MW2 looks like*
Anybody else hearing chipmunk voices? O.o
Seriously I don't give a damn how long a games is as long as it's a good, satisfying experience.
MW and MW were short but imo the story (oh gosh, story? in my fps?) delivered. Though MW2's story was a wee bit cluttered but after a secorsnd playthorugh I actually understood what happened in all parts Laughing
Same with FFXIII there's gonna be people prasing it, people bashing it but as long as it's not as bad as VIII everything is good. Don't get me wrong, I played VIII and liked it but neither the story nor the battle system were overwhelming.
Of course you can always get under the playtime reviewiers mention but then again where's the fun in rushing through a game?
MW2's SP campagin took me about 8-ish hours and that was probably because I chose a difficulty that was too easy Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:25    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
and then all "recognised" review and preview and playtest has said MW2 has a 10h Singleplayer campaign.... but when the game came you could finish it in 3h on easy and in 4h on hard

its really that short


There is no hard setting on MW2. If you're talking about veteran then theres no way in hell you can finish it in 4 hours on this setting. I've seen you say this more than once and it's complete nonsense. Certainly not on your first play through. Realistically it would take about 6 or 7 hours or so. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:26    Post subject:
Interesting that Demon Souls was mentioned - other than the novelty of that game it was 100% linear; no towns, no npc interaction, little story to speak of. . .just kill demons in each stage of the game, reach a locked point, and go kill demons in another stage of of another kingdom.

Final Fantasy has been linear for like ever. All they've done is strip out the world maps and any pretense to choice in the game. If the game is still fun and has interesting encounters like FFXII (which was the first FF to finally grow the fuck up) then I'm all over it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:29    Post subject:
Ell oh Ell. Well there's SE's target market then, those that enjoyed the fucking TRAVESTY of XII. FF only started getting linear with FFX, though even that had some exploration. Shit, even the god-awful XII had more freedom in it. Hey, if since FFX is "like for ever, like, derp!" then I guess we know certain ages now.




Everything since the Enix merger happened has been shite. Dumbed down, mass produced, shite. The last truly great FF title was X. Let's all just have a moment to mourn the passing of the decent Squaresoft RPG.

Still, as I've said multiple times, it's going to be a completely linear A-to-B story and I'm going to try and enjoy it as such. It's just a shame those with small attention spans seem to outnumber us now, and while we can expect more of this crap in the future; there is always emulation of the true classics! ^_^


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:33    Post subject:
Right, a target audience who - as another poster mentioned - aren't viewing the past through rose tinted glasses. As usual Sabin, you'll moan about the game, play it - so you can moan about it some more. No wonder you wish for SE to keep making the same game over and over, you're a love of redundant behavior.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:33    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Last time I mentioned the lack of towns and any real exploration, I got flamed and insulted by TB Wink


fixed Cool Face

yeah he is still raging his imaginative console war on the new levels


Why did you falsify what Sabin wrote?
What he actually wrote was:
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Last time I mentioned the lack of towns and any real exploration, I got flamed and insulted. So yeah... good luck with that TB


Is that what you have reduced yourself to?
It's sad, I mean really sad.

As for Sabin jumping in that's even sadder especially as I defended him during his meltdown.




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:36    Post subject:
twobells wrote:

As for Sabin jumping in that's even sadder.


lolwut? Jumping in? You're one of those whining at me earlier about my complaints of linearity, then you GO AND DO THE SAME DAMNED THING! I didn't "jump in", I replied to your whining.

Defended me? You STARTED the whole shit in the first place, then did a full 360 when you realised, shock and horror, that I was actually making a valid point! All I did was link to an article where SE outlined the reason they decided to forgo exploration on the scale of previous games, and all I got for it was a lot of fucking grief. Now you're making the same complaint and LO! I'm STILL getting grief!
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:39    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
twobells wrote:

As for Sabin jumping in that's even sadder.


lolwut? Jumping in? You're one of those whining at me earlier about my complaints of linearity, then you GO AND DO THE SAME DAMNED THING! I didn't "jump in", I replied to your pathetic whining.

Defended me? You STARTED the whole shit in the first place, then did a full 360 when you realised, shock and horror, that I was actually making a valid point!


No, you went on ranting about stuff that had nothing to do with linearity and that's why I wondered what you were on.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:39    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
Spiderman wrote:
and then all "recognised" review and preview and playtest has said MW2 has a 10h Singleplayer campaign.... but when the game came you could finish it in 3h on easy and in 4h on hard

its really that short


There is no hard setting on MW2. If you're talking about veteran then theres no way in hell you can finish it in 4 hours on this setting. I've seen you say this more than once and it's complete nonsense. Certainly not on your first play through. Realistically it would take about 6 or 7 hours or so. Rolling Eyes

unbelievers need visual aid ... so let see http://www.gameanyone.com/X360/Modern_Warfare_2.html
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:40    Post subject:
I ranted that SE's decision to limit the game was due to the graphics. And it is. And you even made THE SAME GOD FUCKING DAMNED POINT! Scroll up the page a little and see the very words YOU wrote!

Remember this? You should do, you wrote it half the way of this very page;

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The ability to roam freely in a FF world is probably one of most important elements of the game along with story environments and combat, yet we read that due to the inherent nature of 'HD' its 'impossible' to create a free-roaming 3D world, yet I have seen just that in White Knight Chronicles, so which is it bad/lazy design or 'HD' is just too much work?


Now go back to Page 9 and read MY comment, in which I say exactly the same thing! What did I get for that comment? A fuckton of grief in which you FINALLY, after throwing shit at me yourself, say "Whoa... actually, let's just calm down here and stop ganging upon Sabin, because - and this hurts me to say - maybe he has a point?"

(paraphrased)

God, you people make me fucking sick. It's constant with all of you, you're entitled to your own opinion - but as soon as Sabin makes one, quick!! let's all insult and attack him! lulz!


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:42    Post subject:
As for 'starting it', I suggest you go back and re-read your own posts:

Here is where your mega rant started:

wgem wrote:
part of what made FF so great was the amazing linear story. Same with Half Life. Games can still be great + linear..

Sabin1981 wrote:

This.

If people are bitching and whining about "linearity" in a jRPG, then I recommend they should stick to PC-RPGs instead - like MMOs and other sprawling epics-that-never-end. jRPGs are about the story and the progression - and the linearity is good! ^_^

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46799&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150

I came in much later and tried to inject a little common sense.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:46    Post subject:
TB wants to be a politician ... so he acts like one Laughing

i am come on a game is a fucking game ... but not in TB word ... in it there is a invisible console war and then the delusional replays

i speak nonsense when i am stone but at lest i have the ballz to acknowledge i was wrong
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:46    Post subject:
Yes, linearity to a point! The FF series has always been linear to a degree and by linear I don't mean a single fucking corridor you march endlessly down, I mean by the STORY! With the lack of choice because you have an overall goal. I wasn't referring to the GAMEPLAY and you fucking well know that! If you'd actually read properly, you'd see I agreed to the part where wgem said "linear STORY" Rolling Eyes

You've still yet to answer on why it's ok for you to whine about the game being linear, yet it's not acceptable when I do it.

Twobells? Twofaced is more like it. You and your ilk slander and attack me for "daring" to mention that the absence of exploration and townships is because of the new HD graphic system, then suddenly you turn right around and make the same observation! How is that even remotely fair?
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 18:49    Post subject:
i really need to fix my lappy keyboard , still have this sticky g d s and a
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