iPad bash/drool thread
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 16:05    Post subject: iPad bash/drool thread


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After nearly a decade of rumors and speculation, Apple's finally unveiled the iPad. It's a half-inch thick and weighs just 1.5 pounds, with a 9.7-inch capacitive touchscreen IPS LCD display, and it's running a custom 1GHz Apple "A4" chip developed by the P.A. Semi team, with a 10-hour battery life and a month of standby.

It'll come in 16, 32, and 64GB sizes, and it's got the expected connectivity: very little. There's a 30-pin Dock connector, a speaker, a microphone, Bluetooth, 802.11n WiFi and optional 3G, as well as an accelerometer and a compass. There's also a keyboard dock, which connects underneath in the portrait orientation, support for up to 1024x768 VGA out and 480p composite out through new dock adapter cables, and a camera attachment kit that lets you import photos from your camera over USB or directly through an SD reader.

The device is managed by iTunes, just like the iPhone -- you sync everything over to your Mac. As expected, it can run iPhone apps -- either pixel-for-pixel in a window, or pixel-doubled fullscreen -- but developers can also target the new screen size using the updated iPhone OS SDK, which is available today.

The 3G version runs on AT&T and comes with new data plans: 250MB for $14.99 and an unlimited plan for $29.99 a month contract-free. Activations are handled on the iPad, so you can activate and cancel whenever you want. Every iPad is unlocked and comes with a GSM "micro-SIM," so you can use it abroad, but there aren't any international deals in place right now -- Steve says they'll be back "this summer" with news on that front.

It starts at $499 for 16GB, 32GB for $599, and $699 64GB. Adding 3G costs a $130 per model, so the most expensive model (64GB / 3G) is $829. The WiFi-only model will ship in 60 days, and the 3G models will come in 90.



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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 16:19    Post subject:
Pfffft. I'll take an Acer One or Asus EEE 1201n instead of this overpriced piece of crap. It's nothing but a freaking iPod with a larger screen. Worse is that Apple are, being the egotistical cunts that they are, touting it as the ultimate portable HD playback device. Really? I ain't never seen no HD moves in 4:3/1024x768.

Lovely price too, especially when compared to VASTLY more powerful netbooks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 16:22    Post subject:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58504 Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 16:34    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58504 Razz


Oops! Didn't see that thread cause I hardly ever go into that section. Plus the motivational poster thread was getting sidetracked with this crap.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 16:59    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 17:58    Post subject:
it could serve as a kindle replacement, but I think that the glossy screen would kill your eyes Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 18:04    Post subject:
Whats it for?? Confused


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 20:42    Post subject:
thers a few things that suck about the ipad:
1) no muti tasking
2) no flash (surely this is essential for decent browsing!)
3) fucking expensive for what it is


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 21:37    Post subject:
Apple stock down 3%. With good reason, I daresay.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 00:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/MailHome.asp?datePublish=2010/1/28&pages=PD&seq=214

Much better.


How? Article doesn't mention much by way of specs.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:57    Post subject:
fuck an ipad


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 23:36    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Worse is that Apple are, being the egotistical cunts that they are, touting it as the ultimate portable HD playback device. Really? I ain't never seen no HD moves in 4:3/1024x768.


my question is how does it play HD content (I'm assuming H264 from itunes) on a 1 ghz cpu without any gpu? also, do apps from iphone store all scale from HVGA (480x320) to XGA (1024x768)?


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 00:54    Post subject:
I'll tell you how, because the iTunes encodes are abysmal, that's how. They are low bitrate (I think the max level is 3.1 or 3.2), no CABAC (Laughing), 2-3 reference frames, etc.

A small comparison between a HDTV cap encode and an iTunes file:

Encode: http://www.imagebam.com/image/89c9a164307504
iTunes: http://www.imagebam.com/image/08875e64307507

Encode: http://www.imagebam.com/image/143f8764307512
iTunes: http://www.imagebam.com/image/7eb91c64307514
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 20:41    Post subject:
This will fail for one reason.

No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform when, everyone else will be using far more powerful Windows 7 based hardware.

It's simple if you want to stream Flash Player 10.1/10.2 and have fast Internet browsing on Atom 1.6 CPU and dedicated GPU hardware or Google Android large device support, then don't bother buying something with such appalling obsolescence built in.

MSI, ACER and even Archos have cheaper and better hardware either already out or incoming which simply shit all over IPad.

Only sad brainless technophiles will buy this.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 21:02    Post subject:
fishslice wrote:
No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform

Oh? iPhone (same crap) is still selling like hot cakes.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 21:39    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
fishslice wrote:
No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform

Oh? iPhone (same crap) is still selling like hot cakes.
well, at least its far cheaper and fits in a regular pocket
When thats said, its the only apple product (that I know about) that isn't insanely overpriced. People buying mac book/mac book pro must be fucking retarded. OK, they buy it for the design, but imo there are laptops with far better looking design.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 21:40    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
fishslice wrote:
No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform

Oh? iPhone (same crap) is still selling like hot cakes.

the difference is that it's a cellphone. looks nice, size is comfortable, it's easy to use and not everyone needs the stuff that highend smartphones nowadays offer. i'm no macfag (rather the contrary), but even considering its faults - it's the first thing ever apple got right imo.

the ipad will fail simply because it's an oversized smartphone (without the phone!) while other companies will build downsized PCs. if apple made some kind of smaller macbook air tablet instead, this would be a whole different story.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 21:40    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
iNatan wrote:
fishslice wrote:
No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform

Oh? iPhone (same crap) is still selling like hot cakes.

the difference is that it's a cellphone. looks nice, size is comfortable, it's easy to use and not everyone needs the stuff that highend smartphones nowadays offer. i'm no macfag (rather the contrary), but even considering its faults - it's the first thing ever apple got right imo.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 22:19    Post subject:
I bought an iphone half a year ago. Never would have figured myself as an owner. But almost all of the lackings of my previous phones are meet with it. It does have a ridiculous low battery life, but I can live with it.

The ipad, on the other hand, doesn't really strike me as a must-have. The only reason I would want one is to get an ebook reader, but it just has to many shortcomings in that area for me to buy one. The Kindle DX is for me much more attractive, but again as I don't live in the US and getting it shipped doesn't appeal to me. Also if it ever breaks, getting it repaired would be time consuming and costly.

Think I wait a generation or two and see what pops up.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 22:38    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
fishslice wrote:
No one will ever want to buy a device with such a limited closed hardware and software platform

Oh? iPhone (same crap) is still selling like hot cakes.


wow, that was a pretty odd statement.

As you say it fits in the pocket, which IPad won't and also has the added benefit of being entirely pointless, in what will be a soon be an over saturated and much smarter market.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 23:32    Post subject:
Its pretty obvious most people that hate the iPhone never have owned one themselves. If you jailbreak it you can have a lot of fun with it Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 23:34    Post subject:
So what, I have to own something to hate it? Wow... What a stupid thing to say. Laughing

See? You have to hack your own device to be able to run the software you want. Oh, yeah, what's not to like? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 23:46    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
So what, I have to own something to hate it? Wow... What a stupid thing to say. Laughing

See? You have to hack your own device to be able to run the software you want. Oh, yeah, what's not to like? Laughing Laughing
Of course you don't have to own something to hate it. But its much easier to hate something you haven't really "tried out/experienced" yourself. Im pretty sure if Apple made something (that you could actually) like you would be to ignorant to ever see it... and it could be the case here. But guess we won't ever know as im pretty sure buying an iPhone would be the last thing you did
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And being able to hack/softmod the iPhone is nothing but positive. It also gives you a satisfactory feeling of pwning apple a little. And after jailbreaking the phone, its more open than any other windows mobile, thats for sure

But now iv been saying lots of positive things about the iPhone, and its all your fault Leo Sad So got to add that the battery sucks Wink ...but improves a lot if you turn of the bluetooth and the wifi... bah god damnit Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 00:04    Post subject:
Who said I have no experience with the iPhone? Confused A lot of friends have it. I don't like it.
There are good apps for it, but this has nothing to do with iPhone, but rather the sheer number of them. My Diamond has better specs than the iPhone and a better resolution. It doesn't have all the games - but I don't care, I don't play much on the phone. For everything else, software is aplenty, and Opera Mobile wipes the floor with Safari (any version).
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 00:12    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Who said I have no experience with the iPhone? A lot of friends have it. I don't like it.
There are good apps for it, but this has nothing to do with iPhone, but rather the sheer number of them. My Diamond has better specs than the iPhone and a better resolution. It doesn't have all the games - but I don't care, I don't play much on the phone. For everything else, software is aplenty, and Opera Mobile wipes the floor with Safari (any version).
The commercially available alternatives atm just aren't good enough imo. And I can't say I like Safari that much either, but they have made it work very well on the iPhone. Actually the thing I like the most about it. Kinda tired of all the other apps... they where fun for well a week or two Not restored in iTunes for ages, so can't download from my sources are outdated (need to upgrade to 2.X to be able to get the new apps)

And yeah I guess the iPhone just grew on me. Most people think its way to flashy... and it probably is, but a great way to get attention when no one had it in Norway Cool Face (got it from USA) Far from hot anymore :/ But well... waiting for something that is as elegant and userfriendly. The HTC my friend got doesn't really impress me. Takes much longer to time to write URLs in this Uber mini opera and the screen is way to small. The Diamond looks pretty decent. But size matters Cool Face resolution isn't everything Wink

...and I know you want iPhysics sooo bad on your Diamond Wink
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