[XBOX360] Microsoft victorious in battle against piracy?
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twobells
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 12:45    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Strangely, I agree with TB. A historic moment?


Everyone comes around to TB's pov in the end..muh hah hah. [evil laugh]

Seriously though, it's a sad day in Tortuga Town but not I think unexpected.

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TheGame110011001
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 13:40    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
All it means is that Sony wins, who in their right minds would buy a console that clatters and clanks, has no blu ray and needs replacing every other year if they can't play backups?

No-one and that Netflix fan from your local video store that's who.

[Epiphany moment:] Oh yeah thats pretty much the ONLY reason many people bought the 360.


lol you know 360 has sold more than double in software than the ps3?

I think pirates are only 5% or so. Most people buy there games Wink

All people that complain now about c4e are lame and should die.

When the guy gave you all free shit you was all sucking his dick. Now you are banned and he is the bad guy. I say go fuck your self and buy yourself some ps3 and enjoy the lag on psn ^_^


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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 15:44    Post subject:
i'd just like to point out what a twat the guy that wrote that is. boo fuckin hoo, i had an idea and didn't do anything useful to contribute so - *SURPRISE* - a bunch of clever minds took it from me and ran with it. what the hell did he think would happen? i'm sure in this day and age of email, cell phones, and the internet those guys needed him to manage their day to day operations.

as for them charging for the ability to decrypt your key? once again just reminds of the directv satellite hacking days. everyone else is making money off their work so why shouldn't they? the days of any modders doing it for free will probably be over for sure by then.

i personally disapprove but who the fuck cares what i think anyway? i can't say i blame them - they are doing all the work and someone else is reaping all the rewards.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 15:46    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
All it means is that Sony wins, who in their right minds would buy a console that clatters and clanks, has no blu ray and needs replacing every other year if they can't play backups?


People who want more then a handful of games that run at real 720p, stable framerate and no tearing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 15:49    Post subject:
killabyte wrote:
i'd just like to point out what a twat the guy that wrote that is.



Iriez,


and you have pretty much summed him up.


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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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twobells
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:17    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
twobells wrote:
All it means is that Sony wins, who in their right minds would buy a console that clatters and clanks, has no blu ray and needs replacing every other year if they can't play backups?


People who want more then a handful of games that run at real 720p, stable framerate and no tearing Laughing


Oh please, without making this some fanboy rant every single game I have ever booted looks and plays better on the PS3.
[without the clatter and clanking] this is from someone who had a 360 from day 1.
There are the occasional titles that have been poorly ported on both machines, but for me game by game the PS3 is the superior console.




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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:17    Post subject:
twobells wrote:

Oh please, every single game I have ever booted looks and plays better on the PS3


oh TB...

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Glottis
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:21    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
Oh please, without making this some fanboy rant every single game I have ever booted looks and plays better on the PS3.

No. But it's funny that in every thread you visit you start your usual PS3 preaching.


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twobells
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:31    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
twobells wrote:
Oh please, without making this some fanboy rant every single game I have ever booted looks and plays better on the PS3.

No. But it's funny that in every thread you visit you start your usual PS3 preaching.


Look, I have both consoles, and regularly compare titles as well as comparing the overall consumer experience; after the pc I believe for me the PS3 is the better machine.
If MS came out with a better build and developed a game truly beyond the PS3's technological reach then I would snap it up, I am a gamer first and last and do not slavishly follow either Microsoft's or Sony's diktat.


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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:53    Post subject:
TheGame110011001 wrote:
sabin1981 why are you so butthurt?

Nobody fucking forced you to flash your xbox. I don't think c4e could care less if mr sabin from norway used his FW or not.

You knew the risk and you took it. Now you all go boohoooo c4e banned my xbauws booohooo :'(

Here is a handy tutorial:

Flashing your xbox = 100% ban
Not flashing your xbox = 100% no ban

Now go blame your self or die.



Amen to that , finaly another person that says the same that I always have said here.
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 16:56    Post subject:
Next topic from Sabin will be


Firm considers class action to c4e for Xbox Live banning

Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 17:08    Post subject:
Oh for fucks sake?! No-one is fucking complaining that they're banned! No-one is BLAMING c4eva for being banned! The ONLY statement made so far, by Sabin, is that it's BECAUSE of c4eva that people are banned, wich IS TRUE. It's peoples own FAULT on the other hand, and NO-ONE is denying that, what is so fucking hard to understand?

I'm very thankful for what c4eva has done for the scene and the community (wich Sabin is too, as he SAYS). Now that he has released a NUMBER of "undetectable" FW's, that were in fact, detectable, he has enough information about how they are detected, to actually make one that he feels can be TRULY undetectable. So, he's planning on cashing in on it. THAT'S the man fucking point here. Either you like it, or you don't. You can dislike that fact AND STILL respect the guy for the work he has put in over the years. Personally, i'm on the fence so far, don't know if I like the idea or not. But I'm still very thankful for the work he has done in the past, and if LT/iX 1.7 proves to really be undetectable, i would consider paying for it, sure.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 17:12    Post subject:
Thanks SiN, I'm glad someone at least understands <3
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 17:30    Post subject:
I don't see Microsoft that "wining"
sure,they banned from live most of the pirates,
but you still CAN pirate games for the 360,and there has been HUGE progress on fully hacked it
to run homebrew and more.


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deelix
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 18:52    Post subject:
bah, getting so tired of this non sense Sad
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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 19:05    Post subject:
it's simple. Keep your banned console for playing games offline/trialing games then get a non modded one or a ps3 for playing the 1 or 2 games worth buying and playing online, MW2 and ???? Forza maybe?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 19:07    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
it's simple. Keep your banned console for playing games offline/trialing games then get a non modded one or a ps3 for playing the 1 or 2 games worth buying and playing online, MW2 and ???? Forza maybe?


Aye, good call ^_^ A friend of mine has offered me his 360 for £50, if it turns out it's banned.. but meh, I'd rather just buy a new one anyway as I've got a ton of DLC and XBLA titles that I won't be able to transfer if the machine can't connect to live.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 19:31    Post subject:
i agree with what TB is saying about the ps3. i don't give a shit if it's got donkeybawlz electronics stamped on it. if it's got something i want to play on it and it's worth the price of admission i'll buy into it.

i do prefer the ps3's XMB to the dashboard interface of the 360. much more responsive, much more user configurable, etc. the only use my ps3 really sees is playing blu-ray rips and it's 2 easy steps to play an mkv file on the ps3 - download it and then run it through mkv2vob and you're done. there was so much stuff to do to convert them to work on the 360 that i eventually just gave up on it.

p.s. to sabin Laughing /sarcasm - QFT, you know your opinion sucks and so do you! hell, you're not even entitled to your opinion on this forum so why do you even post anymore damn it. everyone hates you! and by everyone i mean that one particular guy Razz
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 20:31    Post subject:
Everyone has there favo console , I got both aswell but only buy the exclusives on PS3 , because I prefer the X360 controller over the PS3 one.

Plus and this is just my own opinion I find that multiplatform games look better on the Xbox 360 then the PS3.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 23:33    Post subject:
killabyte wrote:

p.s. to sabin Laughing /sarcasm - QFT, you know your opinion sucks and so do you! hell, you're not even entitled to your opinion on this forum so why do you even post anymore damn it. everyone hates you! and by everyone i mean that one particular guy Razz


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pandorum




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 00:02    Post subject:
can someone summarize the essay?
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 00:08    Post subject:
The moment they start charging for this service is the moment the law will be after them.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 00:28    Post subject:
pandorum wrote:
can someone summarize the essay?

twat1 (iriez) writes a bit about the x360 hacking history, followed by a paragraph of glorificating twat2 (c4e )'s as well as his collaborators' talents, then overgloroficating himself through a comparison with the manager of manchester united.
about halfway through he probably came to the realization that the whole piece sounds a bit pompous, so he decides to crack down on the ego as well as the antisocial/non-teamplayer mentality of his former team mates, building up to the giant climax: c4e works now with the chinese (probably the mafia, who else) and is planning a giant scheme to empty the wallets of all x360 modders! (that is, if you're living on a 10$ per year budget).
and after reading through it all once again, he came to the conclusion that the second part probably was a tad too "little child throwing a tantrum" style, so he decides to throw a few nice words to make him seem not that much of an ass, with the ultimate motive of expressing his deepest pain about his team crumbling away like michael jackson's nose if someone suckerpunched him in the face.

rampart wrote:
The moment they start charging for this service is the moment the law will be after them.
...and the moment the law is after them, they will move to a country where the law can't do shit. panama is quite a nice place to live around this time of the year Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 00:47    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Thanks SiN, I'm glad someone at least understands <3



SiN beat me to it. get a grip guys and chill the fuck out Very Happy
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 01:42    Post subject:
Eventualy the big bad wolf named Microsoft will get you , its just a matter of time that they will detect 1.7 nothing is 100% sure to be safe.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 02:08    Post subject:
ShadowX wrote:
Eventualy the big bad wolf named Microsoft will get you , its just a matter of time that they will detect 1.7 nothing is 100% sure to be safe.

There's one major flaw in your theory. XB Live ban doesn't stop from playing games for free. Remember PS2 or Xbox1? No one cared about multiplayer back then and everyone was happy with single player. It's just now everyone got spoiled with using live on modded console and getting banned looks like sky is falling, when in fact it doesn't mean much at all. Cos as I already said, you can still play every single game on a banned console.


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 02:44    Post subject:
I don't have a 360, so I'm not following 100%. What brought this change ? Are ppl forced to upgrade their firmware to the "paid" one ? And why ?

For example, a friend of mine has the 360, some new iextreme version after the wave3 thingy. and isn't banned, so ... ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 03:01    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I don't have a 360, so I'm not following 100%. What brought this change ?

c4e (the guy behind the ixtreme firmware) didn't want to work for free anymore

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Are ppl forced to upgrade their firmware to the "paid" one ? And why ?

no one forces them, but newer firmwares enable you to play backups without patching the isos and provide a lower risk of getting banned. but how much the risk really is actually lower, no one knows.

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For example, a friend of mine has the 360, some new iextreme version after the wave3 thingy. and isn't banned, so ... ?

so...he's one of the lucky guys and should enjoy it while it lasts Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 03:19    Post subject:
But all scene releases are pre-patched, right ? (=stealth-patched, right?)
So, who gives a shit ?

Also, what does this have to do with Microsoft ?! What is that Iriez sucka talking about, there ? He should just let the big boys handle things.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2009 03:26    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
But all scene releases are pre-patched, right ? (=stealth-patched, right?)
So, who gives a shit ?

what i meant was having to patch because of the waves if you've got an older firmware, which of course modifies the original iso-->much easier to detect for MS.

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Also, what does this have to do with Microsoft ?! What is that Iriez sucka talking about, there ? He should just let the big boys handle things.

he's just abusing his freedom of speech. or rather freedom of whining Laughing
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