Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin
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swingman




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:00    Post subject: Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin
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The basic problem is that while it's true that exercise burns calories and that you must burn calories to lose weight, exercise has another effect: it can stimulate hunger. That causes us to eat more, which in turn can negate the weight-loss benefits we just accrued. Exercise, in other words, isn't necessarily helping us lose weight. It may even be making it harder.


http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857-1,00.html

A long read but it debunks a lot of health myths such as increasing muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:09    Post subject:
swingman is fat and is searching excuses not to do sports in a near futur Wink

doing sports is not only for not gaining weight. doing sports is necessary for being healthy!

PS: i did not read the article
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:13    Post subject:
Of course it makes you hungry. That's why you also need to watch what you eat. If you come home from the gym and stuff your face with sweets, burgers & ice cream you won't be losing weight. But exercise regulary then have a meal of grilled chicken, rice & veggies = success.
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:14    Post subject:
manu_xl wrote:
swingman is fat and is searching excuses not to do sports in a near futur Wink

doing sports is not only for not gaining weight. doing sports is necessary for being healthy!

PS: i did not read the article


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swingman




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:24    Post subject:
The health benefits of exercise are not being disputed. It is the weight-loss aspect of exercise that is being challenged. It is mainly about how we compensate for the additional exertion by a) eating more and b) taking it easier once the exercise is over. Also, exercise AND a controlled diet is not seen as an approach that most people can impose on themselves for a long period. The researchers liken self-control to a muscle and forcing ourselves to exercise weakens that self-control in other aspects i.e. diet.

Just looking at how much time you have to exercise to burn-off the calories in something as innocuous as a muffin makes you wonder about eating that muffin in the first place.

manu_xl wrote:
swingman is fat and is searching excuses not to do sports in a near futur Wink


Who isn't? Razz
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Devi-Lee




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:28    Post subject:
It's not just the energy that you use when exercise. It's also the promotion of muscle growth, increased metabolism, sweating etc. that come into play. Everything decreases your weight and burns calories & fat. Also eating powder proteins increases weightloss since they use more energy for digestion than they release once digested.

Or just do a lot of cocaine and speed. Works like a charm.
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swingman




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 12:42    Post subject:
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According to calculations published in the journal Obesity Research by a Columbia University team in 2001, a pound of muscle burns approximately six calories a day in a resting body, compared with the two calories that a pound of fat burns. Which means that after you work out hard enough to convert, say, 10 lb. of fat to muscle — a major achievement — you would be able to eat only an extra 40 calories per day, about the amount in a teaspoon of butter, before beginning to gain weight. Good luck with that.


That, among other things, is what the whole article is challenging. All these myths that we are fed by weight-loss gurus.
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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 13:10    Post subject: Re: Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin
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The basic problem is that while it's true that exercise burns calories and that you must burn calories to lose weight, exercise has another effect: it can stimulate hunger. That causes us to eat more, which in turn can negate the weight-loss benefits we just accrued. Exercise, in other words, isn't necessarily helping us lose weight. It may even be making it harder.


Well gee, maybe have a little self-control and not stuff with your face with cake right after a jog, hmm? Razz
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Devi-Lee




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 13:25    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
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According to calculations published in the journal Obesity Research by a Columbia University team in 2001, a pound of muscle burns approximately six calories a day in a resting body, compared with the two calories that a pound of fat burns. Which means that after you work out hard enough to convert, say, 10 lb. of fat to muscle — a major achievement — you would be able to eat only an extra 40 calories per day, about the amount in a teaspoon of butter, before beginning to gain weight. Good luck with that.


That, among other things, is what the whole article is challenging. All these myths that we are fed by weight-loss gurus.


Columbia university is hardly a weightloss guru Laughing
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liansk




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 13:42    Post subject:
And yet I go to the gym every two days, eat whatever the hell I want and look good in the process. Rolling Eyes

So, fuck this article, quite looking for excuses and go get some exercise you lazy shitbricks. Razz


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Hierofan
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 13:52    Post subject:
article is probably written by some fat american btw..


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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 14:35    Post subject:
hah, fatties
I am a natural muscle man, altho pretty thin due to severe lack of exercice
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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 14:38    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
hah, fatties
I am a natural muscle man, altho pretty thin due to severe lack of exercice


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 14:48    Post subject:
Laughing damn inz
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 14:50    Post subject:
Just cut down on eating drastically so your body has to get its energy from your stored fat. Muscle tissue is only used at the very end (when you have an insufficient amount of fat) so you shouldnt be afraid of loosing that.
Doing it like this your body will go into "survival" mode and you have to resist the urges to eat cause your brain wants you to eat and stimulates you even more when there is food around


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 15:00    Post subject:
I'm kind of jealous about all the people that actualy have to watch what they're eating. My metabolism is so fucking powerfull I can eat whatthefuckever I want and not gain any weight at all. It's like all of the calories go into my penis.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 15:05    Post subject:
Man I need a facepalm pic... I lost nearly 70 pounds with both exercise and proper dieting... And trust me it raised myh metabolism like for an instance: I was on a week long vacation where I drank and ate basically anything and afterwards I toke cannabis for two weeks where the munches gave in which caused me to also drink and eat basically anything. And what do you know I gained 3 pounds or so.


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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 15:09    Post subject:
i lost a bit over 30kg in 3 months without excercise


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 00:47    Post subject:
JeanPerrier wrote:
i lost a bit over 30kg in 3 months without excercise


got dumped?
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Mussolinka
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 00:59    Post subject:
PUN! PUUUUN!


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 01:00    Post subject:
JeanPerrier wrote:
i lost a bit over 30kg in 3 months without excercise

Only 12h sex sessions per day?
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 01:23    Post subject:
I workout on pretty much a daily basis. I don't build muscle mass like I see a lot of my other peers do in the military. Why? Because being able to lift insane amounts of weight does not equal to being fit. I run the 5k in under 21 minutes typically, and do 55/55 pushup's/situps. If i'm able to do that I call it a day. Weight lifting actually makes you fatter. What happens is that your body gets used to the larger muscle mass, and if you stop lifting weights all those extra calories and protein that used to go into making muscle goes straight into fat. It completely ruins a humans natural metabolism.
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 01:39    Post subject:
inz wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
hah, fatties
I am a natural muscle man, altho pretty thin due to severe lack of exercice




Is that timechanges brother? Wokgwan
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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 04:00    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
I workout on pretty much a daily basis. I don't build muscle mass like I see a lot of my other peers do in the military. Why? Because being able to lift insane amounts of weight does not equal to being fit. I run the 5k in under 21 minutes typically, and do 55/55 pushup's/situps. If i'm able to do that I call it a day. Weight lifting actually makes you fatter. What happens is that your body gets used to the larger muscle mass, and if you stop lifting weights all those extra calories and protein that used to go into making muscle goes straight into fat. It completely ruins a humans natural metabolism.
erm NO weight lifting doesnt make you fat.

turn gain real muscle you need to eat alot of protein, and i mean alot more than your average person , your also eating alot more calories than your average person so that your body can actually make these muscles.

people stop working out and there muscles shrink rapidly , they carry on eating the same diet they are used to and obviously because the body no longer needs all the protein it becomex excess protein which the body breaks down and turns into fat.

WEIGHT LIFTING DOES NOT MAKE YOU FAT, EATING MORE THAN YOUR BODY NEEDS MAKES YOU FAT.

you might aswell say walking makes you fat because if you walk long distances you need more calories and then when you stop walking these distances without altering your diet you become fat
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 05:20    Post subject:
Back when I wasn't fat i kept my self in shape by doing cardio based weight lifting. Miss it but I also like my chair


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bringiton




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2009 10:06    Post subject:
Working out doesn't make you slim necessarily, that's true.
But that because you are changing your body. While working out, you lose fat, but gain muscles. Muscles weight more than fat, so you might actually gain weight. But it's "good" weight, because it's not fat.
So it's kind of hard to figure out if you lost weight while doing sports, because you might gain muscle mass.


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