[Android] Smartphone recommendations
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:05    Post subject: [Android] Smartphone recommendations
Guise... I want new smarthone with android. My Desire Z is getting slightly terrible.

Isn't the Nexus4 best android phone ever ? How do I get it in Poland ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:29    Post subject:
It may not be the best, but Nexus 4 is relatively cheap, and for the price it gives excellent value. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:33    Post subject:
I heard that it has some overheating problems though? Check on youtube.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:36    Post subject:
My team leader has one and I don't think he has had this problem. Neither did nouseforaname here.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:44    Post subject:
Nexus 4 is only good for countries that can buy from the playstore. Prices are way higher in other countries.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:48    Post subject:
yeah... I can get note II for that price in Poland (from my quick look around)


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Mar 2013 23:55    Post subject:
If you don't mind the size its an excellent phone. Go with that, or wait for the s4.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 00:06    Post subject:
I have time until late april. Will think of something.

Note II seems great but I am afraid it will break in my pocket while crouching Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 00:55    Post subject:
nexus 4 does have serious overheating issue. well, it's rare for device to shut down due to extreme overheating. most common issue is extreme throttling of CPU and GPU when temps reach 40C and above, which happens pretty fast in games. so if you like to play games, you don't even need the most intensive game, 20-30 mins in the game your GPU will be running only half the speed.

while some users here are trying to deny this problem, i really don't understand their agenda and what they get from doing so. i doubt they get paid by google so once again fanboyism and ignorance comes to mind.

watch this video, look around on google and xda forums, and then tell me you still believe nexus 4 doesn't have overheating issues. unless you aren't big on mobile gaming, then overheating issue is almost irrelevant for you, but then why buy such a powerful device?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:02    Post subject:
Not really sure why one would buy an Android device if gaming is the #1 priority as it is.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:04    Post subject:
maybe because android has many excellent games and emulators.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:08    Post subject:
So does a jailbroken iOS.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:09    Post subject:
One of my colleagues in the UK has it, he hasn't had that happen yet either. I'm sure it happens, but it clearly must be under extreme conditions. And yes, he does play games on it, although not for hours at a time. Stock ROM. It does get warm during games, but never to the point where it becomes bad to hold. Are there any videos with actual games of it happening Intel_NVIDIA? I'll ask him to see if that does it for him then, maybe there's a new revision or something.

I've played with it during my trips and it is a very nice device. At that price it's just staggering. Physically it is one of the best looking phones I've ever seen, and very pleasant to hold as well due to the rubber sides. Much more so than an SGS2 or 3 at least. I'd have one if it wasn't for the size.

Still hoping we see a smaller one coming Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:26    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
One of my colleagues in the UK has it, he hasn't had that happen yet either.

wait for summer Laughing

second half of video i linked shows a game and a benchmark and how throttling affects performance. it only takes 36C to start throttling and nexus4 reaches that in no time.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 01:30    Post subject:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
maybe because android has many excellent games and emulators.


Just as many emulators on iOS.

You cannot possibly argue that Android has a superior gaming library though. It's common knowledge that there are more game titles worth playing on iOS.

Also, if you were smart enough to get Gridlee off the app store before it was taken down you have a full fledged version of MAME that you can use without having to jailbreak.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 09:42    Post subject:
GAmes? I want to play scummvm games and there is fantastic app for this on google market


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 11:34    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Not really sure why one would buy an Android device if gaming is the #1 priority as it is.



This. Why the fuck would you use your phone to play games on??


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 11:58    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Not really sure why one would buy an Android device if gaming is the #1 priority as it is.



This. Why the fuck would you use your phone to play games on??

I'm pretty sure Mchart wanted to say that iOS is better for games (which was true for years but recently Android been rapidly catching up), not that you shouldn't use your phone to play games.

sorry dingo_d, but you sounded like these people who never saw modern smartphone and what are they capable off Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 12:22    Post subject:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
Werelds wrote:
One of my colleagues in the UK has it, he hasn't had that happen yet either.

wait for summer Laughing

second half of video i linked shows a game and a benchmark and how throttling affects performance. it only takes 36C to start throttling and nexus4 reaches that in no time.

Oh right, hadn't gone into the video far enough. Gonna ask him to check that on his phone then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 14:03    Post subject:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Not really sure why one would buy an Android device if gaming is the #1 priority as it is.



This. Why the fuck would you use your phone to play games on??

I'm pretty sure Mchart wanted to say that iOS is better for games (which was true for years but recently Android been rapidly catching up), not that you shouldn't use your phone to play games.

sorry dingo_d, but you sounded like these people who never saw modern smartphone and what are they capable off Laughing



I have a smartphone, and I don't use it to play games, that's what I have my computer for. And even if you want a portable gaming platform, there are tons of quality products intended for that purpose Wink

What I'm saying is: everyone who looks at their smartphone and rates it on what games he can play on it, is a complete and utter idiot, and should, imho, just jump off a cliff, and make world a favor Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 14:35    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
dingo_d wrote:



This. Why the fuck would you use your phone to play games on??

I'm pretty sure Mchart wanted to say that iOS is better for games (which was true for years but recently Android been rapidly catching up), not that you shouldn't use your phone to play games.

sorry dingo_d, but you sounded like these people who never saw modern smartphone and what are they capable off Laughing



I have a smartphone, and I don't use it to play games, that's what I have my computer for. And even if you want a portable gaming platform, there are tons of quality products intended for that purpose Wink

What I'm saying is: everyone who looks at their smartphone and rates it on what games he can play on it, is a complete and utter idiot, and should, imho, just jump off a cliff, and make world a favor Smile


Sorry, not all of us are dipshits who want to carry around PSP/3DS on top of a smartphone as it is. The cliff is right over there you inane peasant.

Seriously. What the fuck is even the point of buying the latest and greatest Android/iOS smartphone if you aren't going to game on it? What in fucks name are you going to do with all that compute power? Read e-mails and sext your mom? May as well just save the money and buy a 3 year old smartphone if you're just going to haul around a PSP as it is.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 14:49    Post subject:
KC: Then stick with HTC, and get the One X Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 14:56    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Sorry, not all of us are dipshits who want to carry around PSP/3DS on top of a smartphone as it is. The cliff is right over there you inane peasant.

Seriously. What the fuck is even the point of buying the latest and greatest Android/iOS smartphone if you aren't going to game on it? What in fucks name are you going to do with all that compute power? Read e-mails and sext your mom? May as well just save the money and buy a 3 year old smartphone if you're just going to haul around a PSP as it is.

Guess I'm a dipshit then, because gaming is a nice side feature of my phone, not its primary fucking goal.

I mean, processing power doesn't make browsing the web smoother, make sat nav quicker and smoother or just make the entire phone respond snappier or anything. Right?

I need to replace my phone but unfortunately with the things I'm looking for (Android, "small" form factor, good hardware) that's quite hard - most of the devices at that form factor have hardware that's worse than my Desire's Snapdragon S1. What I use my current one for first and foremost is browsing the web, satnav, email+agenda, music. After that it's about 50/50 split between development and gaming. And I do want a faster SoC than the S1, because using one of the satnav apps is quite laggy. So sorry, but you're the dipshit for calling everyone who does not use a fucking smartphone as a gaming device (rather than its intended purpose) a dipshit.

What the fuck is up with the fucking hostility in here, seriously? Why is everyone calling people a retard just because they don't agree with what still is their goddamn opinion?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 14:59    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Sorry, not all of us are dipshits who want to carry around PSP/3DS on top of a smartphone as it is. The cliff is right over there you inane peasant.

Seriously. What the fuck is even the point of buying the latest and greatest Android/iOS smartphone if you aren't going to game on it? What in fucks name are you going to do with all that compute power? Read e-mails and sext your mom? May as well just save the money and buy a 3 year old smartphone if you're just going to haul around a PSP as it is.

Guess I'm a dipshit then, because gaming is a nice side feature of my phone, not its primary fucking goal.

I mean, processing power doesn't make browsing the web smoother, make sat nav quicker and smoother or just make the entire phone respond snappier or anything. Right?

I need to replace my phone but unfortunately with the things I'm looking for (Android, "small" form factor, good hardware) that's quite hard - most of the devices at that form factor have hardware that's worse than my Desire's Snapdragon S1. What I use my current one for first and foremost is browsing the web, satnav, email+agenda, music. After that it's about 50/50 split between development and gaming. And I do want a faster SoC than the S1, because using one of the satnav apps is quite laggy. So sorry, but you're the dipshit for calling everyone who does not use a fucking smartphone as a gaming device (rather than its intended purpose) a dipshit.

What the fuck is up with the fucking hostility in here, seriously? Why is everyone calling people a retard just because they don't agree with what still is their goddamn opinion?


It was directed towards dingo. Note he was the one starting with the name calling. Not me.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 15:04    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:

I'm pretty sure Mchart wanted to say that iOS is better for games (which was true for years but recently Android been rapidly catching up), not that you shouldn't use your phone to play games.

sorry dingo_d, but you sounded like these people who never saw modern smartphone and what are they capable off Laughing



I have a smartphone, and I don't use it to play games, that's what I have my computer for. And even if you want a portable gaming platform, there are tons of quality products intended for that purpose Wink

What I'm saying is: everyone who looks at their smartphone and rates it on what games he can play on it, is a complete and utter idiot, and should, imho, just jump off a cliff, and make world a favor Smile


Sorry, not all of us are dipshits who want to carry around PSP/3DS on top of a smartphone as it is. The cliff is right over there you inane peasant.

Seriously. What the fuck is even the point of buying the latest and greatest Android/iOS smartphone if you aren't going to game on it? What in fucks name are you going to do with all that compute power? Read e-mails and sext your mom? May as well just save the money and buy a 3 year old smartphone if you're just going to haul around a PSP as it is.



To respond to your previous post: I made a broad statement about my opinion in general. If you found yourself in that description, it's not my problem, it's yours Wink

And yes: using a smartphone for gaming, is a retarded use. I use it for e-mails, and social contact mainly, surfing the web. Games I use are chess mainly, and only when I'm utterly bored on my way to uni Rolling Eyes

And I don't fucking care right now if I get a ban: sexting my mom?! Classy you inbred fucking piece of dumb shit.

There, I feel better now, please go die in a fire.

i dont think i need to explain why you're getting a ban here...max


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2013 15:28    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Mchart wrote:
dingo_d wrote:



I have a smartphone, and I don't use it to play games, that's what I have my computer for. And even if you want a portable gaming platform, there are tons of quality products intended for that purpose Wink

What I'm saying is: everyone who looks at their smartphone and rates it on what games he can play on it, is a complete and utter idiot, and should, imho, just jump off a cliff, and make world a favor Smile


Sorry, not all of us are dipshits who want to carry around PSP/3DS on top of a smartphone as it is. The cliff is right over there you inane peasant.

Seriously. What the fuck is even the point of buying the latest and greatest Android/iOS smartphone if you aren't going to game on it? What in fucks name are you going to do with all that compute power? Read e-mails and sext your mom? May as well just save the money and buy a 3 year old smartphone if you're just going to haul around a PSP as it is.



To respond to your previous post: I made a broad statement about my opinion in general. If you found yourself in that description, it's not my problem, it's yours Wink

And yes: using a smartphone for gaming, is a retarded use. I use it for e-mails, and social contact mainly, surfing the web. Games I use are chess mainly, and only when I'm utterly bored on my way to uni Rolling Eyes

And I don't fucking care right now if I get a ban: sexting my mom?! Classy you inbred fucking piece of dumb shit.

There, I feel better now, please go die in a fire.


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well this escalated quickly
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thread beginning: "hay guise, what smartphone to get?"
thread now: "YOUR MOTHER!" "NO URS!" "NO U FAGET!"
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Mar 2013 18:33    Post subject:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
nexus 4 does have serious overheating issue. well, it's rare for device to shut down due to extreme overheating. most common issue is extreme throttling of CPU and GPU when temps reach 40C and above, which happens pretty fast in games. so if you like to play games, you don't even need the most intensive game, 20-30 mins in the game your GPU will be running only half the speed.

while some users here are trying to deny this problem, i really don't understand their agenda and what they get from doing so. i doubt they get paid by google so once again fanboyism and ignorance comes to mind.

watch this video, look around on google and xda forums, and then tell me you still believe nexus 4 doesn't have overheating issues. unless you aren't big on mobile gaming, then overheating issue is almost irrelevant for you, but then why buy such a powerful device?


That video is refering to the battery temperature at @40c, not gpu or cpu . Also the 'extreme throttling' as you put means the throttle is set to @4x1.2ghz instead of 4x1.5ghz..' big woopems', still plenty fast enough

Guess what, set it higher if you want, it's a .conf file.

I have mine set for battery throttle trigger at 45C and cpu at 75C, plus i'm undervolted by a 150mv and don't suffer from throttling at all..i guess i might if i actually played heavy duty games for hours, but it's the same on all phones, they get hot and throttle by design.

I have no agenda as i will tell you some real Nexus 4 problems.... no notifications with the screen off when on wifi... not fixed since launch, also the 3g(h+whatever) radio sux balls, makes the phone run warm and sux battery.
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