Looking for a good racing game
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:06    Post subject: Looking for a good racing game
Recently rediscovered my old sidewinder pro steering wheel, seems to be working fine on windows 7 =)

But the racing games I have dont really cut it for me. Have dirt 3, dirt showdown and grid installed atm, and they are great (breathtaking) racing games damage and graphics wise, but the career mode leaves alot to wish for.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any racing games that hit the trifect;
A decent (realisticish) damage model, a good career mode(Consisting of either managing a race team, or preferable how NFS Porsche 2000 did it, earning credits buying/selling cars and parts etc) and decent graphics(the graphics part is the least important, however the game would need to work with x64 windows 7)

Hope theres this magic awesome game im overlooking and you guys can point me to it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:08    Post subject:
I'm not sure about which games fit the NFS Porsche bill, but the other two options are definitely covered by NFS Shift 2 Unleashed -- and I'm still pretty sure it has an expansive career mode too.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:18    Post subject:
Sadly driving games with a good career mode are extremely rare on PC, like Sabin said the closest to your request is the Shift franchise, there's no doubt about that.

When it comes to racing sims to test your wheel you can try the good old GTR2/GTR-Evolution/rFactor+mods/Richard Burns Rally etc. , but keep in mind that none of them has a career mode. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:25    Post subject:
Wheel testing I pretty much got covered with the codemasters game, they are really gun to play and quite extensive, just making it an even bigger shame they lack a decnt career mode.

Anything the career mode in shift is comperable with? Shift 2 better than shift 1?(Some cases sequel is worse hence the question hehe)


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:26    Post subject:
Shift 2 has the standard "win races, earn XP, get faster cars, beat more races" style of career. Working your way up from the bottom dealie.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:27    Post subject:
Great career modes just don't exist really, at least not combined with decent driving physics.

In terms of excitement, Shift 1+2 and pCARS are still the best ones. They give you the right sense of speed, good driving model, but none have a great career mode; pCARS for obvious reasons, the other two are just typical event X and Y modes. Shift is similar to PU in that regard though, you do have to buy cars and such, but if you know your cars you'll automatically pick the right car to win in Shift. I had barely done 35% or so of the career mode in Shift 2 and I already had my Murciélago Razz

+1 to ixi's recommendations, I'd like to add LFS to the list just because it's fun to dick around in on the various tracks.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:38    Post subject:
Burnout Paradise
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit (2011?)

My fav ones


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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:38    Post subject:
If shift has the normal "win races, earn XP, get faster cars, beat more races" style of career its not what im looking for though=(

NFS porsche 2000 you could Pick events, swap out parts of your car, repair damage, sponsors hell even time progressed lol. Just seems so strange that with all these sports games that have uber extensive career modes(fifa, madden, football manager etc) there are no racing games that do the same... I know theres a few F1 games that have quite an extensive team management mode, but sadly f1 is the one race type I dont really care for lol


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:39    Post subject:
You could always get a PS3 and GT5, or a 360 and Forza 4.... those match your criteria Cool Face
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:40    Post subject:
Wheel wont work on that though =P

I have forza 4, but 200mph+brickwall= broken front fender and light kinda ruins it for me.(I know im not easy lol)


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:45    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Burnout Paradise
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit (2011?)

My fav ones

Neither has any damage model nor are they worth using a wheel on, since you don't need to steer to win.

Badrien wrote:
If shift has the normal "win races, earn XP, get faster cars, beat more races" style of career its not what im looking for though=(

NFS porsche 2000 you could Pick events, swap out parts of your car, repair damage, sponsors hell even time progressed lol.

That's actually pretty much what Shift does, so I suggest you give it a try. 1 and 2 are quite different though, just get both. You'll need to play with the settings to make it feel right for you though, don't give up straight away. The default setup is meant to cater the derp crowd who like Burnout, but even that setup is not derp enough for them, they still went "DIS IS 2 HARD" Laughing

sabin1981 wrote:
You could always get a PS3 and GT5, or a 360 and Forza 4.... those match your criteria Cool Face

Damage model? GT5? Reaction
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:49    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 20:53    Post subject:
lol Yeah just reading about both shift 1 and 2.

Am I right in understanding shift 1 has a system using money and starting out with a loaner car etc. Whereas 2 uses xp(no more money/buying cars?) and is more(for lack of a better word) linear?

Seems like shift 1 would be more what Im looking for

Do both(or neither) of the games have buyable/swappable car parts?


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:24    Post subject:
NFS Shift blew my balls away, it's so awesome. But you got to configure the controls just the way you want them.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:36    Post subject:
Badrien wrote:
lol Yeah just reading about both shift 1 and 2.

Am I right in understanding shift 1 has a system using money and starting out with a loaner car etc. Whereas 2 uses xp(no more money/buying cars?) and is more(for lack of a better word) linear?

Seems like shift 1 would be more what Im looking for

Do both(or neither) of the games have buyable/swappable car parts?

Nono, Shift 2 uses cash as well. It's a mixed system, you unlock higher tiers with XP, but need cash for the actual cars. They're both relatively linear, but neither forces you to do EVERY event, there's absolutely no need to - especially if you actually get the maximum amount of experience out of each race by getting a good racing line, taking the corners properly and so on. There's also upgrades, different classes of races and quite a few other small good things - it's just a shame that the career mode itself is still just an event based tier system, it's the only point where SMS should really look at other games Smile


So yeah, just get them. I skipped Shift 1 at first because it still had the "NFS" tag and I hadn't liked any NFS game in years. It's a good thing Leo got me to download it anyway, because I did and bought it after doing 3 races Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:46    Post subject:
TOCA Race Driver 3 was great fun on internet at least.

The single player mode is split into two areas: World Tour and Pro Career. The World Tour, which is basically the story mode, takes you around the world through just about every single championship the game has.

But don't think you had to fix what you broke.

Now if you want to go hardcore, Street Legal Racing: Redline. You have to manually fix every scratch you make and pay for it. Awesome to drive and tune, but I think it will fail on the career mode again.

I'd need to dust my 20years old steering wheel some day too, but unless Street Legal 3 comes out don't see it happening soon. Well there is hope with GRID 2 when that comes.


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:50    Post subject:
I spent as much time configuring the controls as I spent playing shift 2 Laughing great game Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:50    Post subject:
nfs porche was last good driving game with career mode.. rest are utter crap, considering how popular porche was its incredly strange how no one spits copys of it..
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:56    Post subject:
Downloading shift 2 now, Will let you guys know how I like it=)


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:57    Post subject:
Badrien wrote:
Downloading shift 2 now, Will let you guys know how I like it=)


you did well;)

the first is also great.
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 23:12    Post subject:
Wow lol you guys said nothing too much.. This game is a whole different experience than the codemasters game(with a steering wheel) It plays awesomely. Ill let you guys know my thoughts on the career mode, just finished the first real race, it was epic


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 23:25    Post subject:
Shift 2 with the mods from DarkRohirim's post is a great experience. Just remember you have to play it with the Elite controls (using Hard difficulty here as well) for getting the best out of it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 23:44    Post subject:
This seems alot more like what I wanted then the codemasters games, part upgrading seems pretty extensive, its no porche where you actually had a market and stuff but ill take it as they give it lol.

Whats this about mods?


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 23:47    Post subject:
Well if you could put career mode aside for a while, project cars is simply amazing. It's still in pre alpha:





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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 23:55    Post subject:
@Pumpy: they're just haters, your videos are great. Both in terms of quality and driving Wink

@Badrien: go here -> http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1784392#1784392
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2012 00:21    Post subject:
the wheel controls are pretty spot on so far, whereas with codemasters game it took alot of fiddling around to get the right feel. Ill definitely try those mods.

had a little question , might sound stupid lol.
been years since i used the wheel, and I dont drive. iirc you use right foot for both throttle and break is this correct? Using both feet feels really awkward


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2012 00:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2012 00:24    Post subject:
Tthe only racing games I have finished career were:
Nfs underground 1 and 2
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Nfsu2 is my recommendation. It still looks fantastic


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2012 00:39    Post subject:
Badrien wrote:
had a little question , might sound stupid lol.
been years since i used the wheel, and I dont drive. iirc you use right foot for both throttle and break is this correct? Using both feet feels really awkward

Yep. Razz

Btw, for games like Hot Pursuit, Split/Second etc. even this one is good Cool Face
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