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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:06    Post subject: Christmas Hardware Buying Advice Thread
santa not sure what to get you? need help or recommendations on what upgrade will get you the most bang (and the least sizzling) for your $?

post your current system hardware in here and your budget and we'll try to recommend good stuff for you Very Happy

mine:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2117733

considering: (main/motherboard)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343083&CatId=6978
(CPU):
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073159&CatId=6989
Budget: around $400ish at most.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:08    Post subject:
im considerning a s\econed 5t70 gtx card to go sli for my rsolution (2560x1609\0


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:08    Post subject:
You know we got a hardware section right? Razz


Oh and if you are on a budget, get the i5-2500k.

For gaming you barely will notice diffrence between both, even tho you save almost $100


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hse propbably drujnk, just leave him bee...


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:09    Post subject:
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You know we got a hardware section right? Razz


shit, where, i looked and didn't see it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:10    Post subject:
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hse propbably drujnk, just leave him bee...


That's you Razz

and http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:11    Post subject:
yeah i found it now, i'm so used to only looking in the gaming arena, should i delete this? or can someone move it? sorry Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:11    Post subject:
pm pumpy to move it prolly.


Check my edit comment on the cpu btw.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:14    Post subject: Re: Christmas Hardware Buying Advice Thread
fuckit wrote:
santa not sure what to get you? need help or recommendations on what upgrade will get you the most bang (and the least sizzling) for your $?

post your current system hardware in here and your budget and we'll try to recommend good stuff for you Very Happy

mine:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2117733

considering: (main/motherboard)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343083&CatId=6978
(CPU):
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073159&CatId=6989
Budget: around $400ish at most.


Why upgrade that system? It's too expensive to upgrade from i7 to another i7 which is a ittle faster. (and uses a different socketing)
Its your business but I wouldn't upgrade the cpu. If I really have to upgrade smthg in that config is the vidcard.

But still...even the vidcard is more than enough (if you are not into gaming at 2330321x231321312 resoultion)


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:15    Post subject:
@Ampee

You clearly donno the diffrence between old gen and the new sandybridge gen. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:16    Post subject:
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@Ampee

You clearly donno the diffrence between old gen and the new sandybridge gen. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:19    Post subject:
The diffrence on stock is about 15-20% increase, BUT you can OC the new cores ALOT better (if you get k) and thus get even more out of it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:19    Post subject:
ampee: because i could fry eggs and use it as a forge for some low melting point metals at factory standard settings so i had to downclock it to 2.6GHZ which.... pathetic, all there is to say about it.

as for the video card.... that's BEYOND last to upgrade on my list to be honest, nvidia still hasn't started the 6xx series and i'm never foolish enough to pay around $200 extra for current series card, sides the 470 is very good if barely starting to age, it's the galaxy version by the way, not sure how much they change from the stock parts (especially without BFG) but the CPU is easily the weak link in the system and if i go to a second revision i7 i can overclock it instead of having to underclock so it doesn't cook itself.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:22    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
The diffrence on stock is about 15-20% increase, BUT you can OC the new cores ALOT better (if you get k) and thus get even more out of it.



Yeah, i know about that. I was stating that nowdays i7 with that "speed" is enough for gaming.
I didn't consider temperature, overclocking (and not considering: "I want more Mhz/Ghz displayed on screen")
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:25    Post subject:
Ampee wrote:
sausje wrote:
The diffrence on stock is about 15-20% increase, BUT you can OC the new cores ALOT better (if you get k) and thus get even more out of it.



Yeah, i know about that. I was stating that nowdays i7 with that "speed" is enough for gaming.
I didn't consider temperature, overclocking (and not considering: "I want more Mhz/Ghz displayed on screen")


not overclocking, underclocking you meant.
this system has been showing it's age a tiny bit lately if i'm honest, still got around 30-40 frames a second with the batman arkham city game DX9 with everything on high and in 3D but... i could be getting 60-70+ frames a second if not for the underclocking on the CPU creating a bottleneck.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:28    Post subject:
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You know we got a hardware section right? Razz


Oh and if you are on a budget, get the i5-2500k.

For gaming you barely will notice diffrence between both, even tho you save almost $100


Don't think you noticed my edit fuckit


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 14:32    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
sausje wrote:
You know we got a hardware section right? Razz


Oh and if you are on a budget, get the i5-2500k.

For gaming you barely will notice diffrence between both, even tho you save almost $100


Don't think you noticed my edit fuckit


yeah i saw that but got confused and was wondering which thread the edit was in Laughing lol wut
and... hmmm.... fry's electronics is having a 1 day sale 24GB of DDR3 ram that's compatible for only $50 Me Gusta

memory deal:
http://www.frys.com/product/6742155?site=sa:adpages%20page:p1

[edit] the difference from i7 2600k to i5 2500k? i'd think the difference between the i7/i5 would be more noicable than the 2600k/2500k Focused haven't researched too much yet though. [/edit]
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 17:22    Post subject:
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[edit] the difference from i7 2600k to i5 2500k? i'd think the difference between the i7/i5 would be more noicable than the 2600k/2500k Focused haven't researched too much yet though. [/edit]


Uhm, there is ONLY an i5-2500k or i7-2600k (the i7 version is the followup), there is no i5-2600k or i7-2500k (it goes from i5-2400, i5-2500, i5-2500k, i7-2600, i7-2600k) and the main diffrence is that the i7 has Hyper-Threading (wich you don't need for gaming)

If you don't do video editing and converting blabla then the i5-2500k is more then sufficient enough to last you a couple of years.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 17:34    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
fuckit wrote:
[edit] the difference from i7 2600k to i5 2500k? i'd think the difference between the i7/i5 would be more noicable than the 2600k/2500k Focused haven't researched too much yet though. [/edit]


Uhm, there is ONLY an i5-2500k or i7-2600k (the i7 version is the followup), there is no i5-2600k or i7-2500k (it goes from i5-2400, i5-2500, i5-2500k, i7-2600, i7-2600k) and the main diffrence is that the i7 has Hyper-Threading (wich you don't need for gaming)

If you don't do video editing and converting blabla then the i5-2500k is more then sufficient enough to last you a couple of years.


ah ok, that's what i suspected, i'll have to compare prices for the i7 and i5 later this morning then Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 18:44    Post subject:
Have you tried using a different cooler? Reapplying the thermal paste?

I have a Q9550 running at 3.6Ghz and no heat problems running below a rather small Noctua NH-U9B.

I have not felt the need to upgrade yet, and will most certainly wait for Ivy-Bridge to show up next year before considering new Hardware.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:03    Post subject:
just the stock one and this aftermarket one, the one i bought after came with one of those butter pad adhesive backed thermal paste pads but i put antec artic silver on it.

i'm kind of not sure whether it's the cooler or the CPU either, i mean.... i know these CPUs are infamous for running warm to nearly molten especially the old ones like i have, it does seem a bit excessive that i'm using (what i hope/think) is a pretty nice CPU cooler and nicer than average thermal paste and it still runs a little warm without downclocking, i do smoke in the room this computer is in, i'm still thinking it can't really be a bad idea to upgrade the CPU and motherboard though as i really hate the BIOS (it's chicken scratch engrish translation) because it's so poorly documented in the manual and the BIOS itself as well and i kinda was kicking myself for not buying an ASUS motherboard before i even really had the gigabyte one for long.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:16    Post subject:
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i'm still thinking it can't really be a bad idea to upgrade the CPU and motherboard though as i really hate the BIOS (it's chicken scratch engrish translation) because it's so poorly documented in the manual and the BIOS itself as well and i kinda was kicking myself for not buying an ASUS motherboard before i even really had the gigabyte one for long.


I'm getting along with the Gigabyte Mobo just fine.Smile
But if you can resell the mobo and CPU for a decent price, and go i5-2500K you will not even need to spend that much money. (Depending on what is much for you)
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:25    Post subject:
yeah it's not that the gigabyte motherboard itself is a problem just.... the people who programmed the BIOS and wrote the manual know fuck all for english skills Laughing

there's like 3-4 if not 5 or 6 diagrams in the manual that are pretty blatantly mislabeled, the voltage settings in the BIOS for memory voltage skip right on past the recommended by like 0.50, but i've been told it's just a proof reading fail and that actually is the right voltage Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 04:13    Post subject:
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well i went ahead and bought that 24GB memory deal for $89.99 and $54.99 after rebate, this is so crazy windows finishes starting up and is responsive faster than you blink now Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 18:44    Post subject:
in how long until all the stuff that starts up with windows and windows becomes responsive after you log in i mean it used to take like a good 10 seconds or so until everything was loaded and it got up to speed when windows starts.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 21:08    Post subject:
Actual PC in my sig

Lookin @ :

Mobo: ASUS P8Z68 V or V-PRO GEN3
RAM: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333mhz
CPU: Intel I5 2nd Gen 2400 or 2500 (not gonna overclock)

Worth or wait?

and YES,i'm using WINDOWS 7 64 BIT...main,yes..but XP on the other hand too *Cool face*


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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 21:53    Post subject:
Don't 2400, and you say that you won't overclock but what's the point in getting sandybridge then?
The k version of the 2500 is only €10,- more expensive, plus its SAFE to OC it even with stock cooler to atleast 3.8-4.0 GHz, without a change in voltages or what so ever.

Don't limit yourself by being affraid to OC, werelds opened my world with OCing, and on SB its safe as fuck.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Nov 2011 07:10    Post subject:
so the old power supply decided to do a one man fireworks display and blew it's brains out forcing me to upgrade that too, so i went out and bought a cooler master 1050w silent pro hybrid, it can output 200w totally fanless and while i was there this really knowledgable dude who worked there running a newer revision i7 for his computer told me i should really think about adding in a corsair H80 water cooler for the processor.

so total cost was $335 for today, $245 for the 1050w power supply and around $80 or so for the CPU cooler, i haven't seen it go above 50 degrees celsius yet since installing the new cpu cooler. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 11:59    Post subject:
so do you guys think i should consider overclocking now that i've got water cooling for the CPU or still probably won't tolerate it ya think?
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