[XBOX360] Beta of Fall 2010 dashboard has new DVD media chec
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azzman




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 05:45    Post subject: [XBOX360] Beta of Fall 2010 dashboard has new DVD media chec
A new beta version [build 12606] of the Fall 2010 [alias 'Kinect'] dashboard has been leaked on the internet a few days ago and it seems like Microsoft added new protections to it. Several users seems to report problems booting certain games from recordable media on 360s with a modified DVD FW.
One of the titles affected seems to be Fable III. The game boots fine from any media on the current dashboard on a 360 with modified FW, but fails to boot from recordable media on the leaked/12606 beta dashboard ["This disc is unreadable"] - while the retail disc will work just fine according to #FW@EFnet.

Right now it's unclear which games, DVD models and/or modified FWs are exactly affected.

The new fall 2010 dashboard might get official released tomorrow [Tuesday Oct 26th 2010] (unconfirmed date, but it will be before Nov 4th anyway) to all 360 owners, so we suggest you do NOT update if you have a modified FW until we know more about these issues.
JTAG users should of course not update at all (will lock-out old CB and make the JTAG hack impossible), they should wait for a new rebooter.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 06:25    Post subject:
Is this true?
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azzman




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 06:44    Post subject:
nah mate , just posted bullshit for laughs.............
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 14:45    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
nah mate , just posted bullshit for laughs.............


I'm laughing, are you?


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Orcman




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 18:17    Post subject:
well fake or not , it is somewhat intresting that some ppl have problems with fable3

tbh im supprised that ms hasnt added this like 2 years ago
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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 03:44    Post subject:
doobzilla wrote:
azzman wrote:
nah mate , just posted bullshit for laughs.............


I'm laughing, are you?


It called sarcasim , I don't believe the reports to be fake. Time will tell
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:50    Post subject:
I have first of the new dashboard betas (418 or something) And just wanted to update too newest 607 beta.

So I just shouldnt do it ?
Or is it just fable shitting bricks on new dash ?


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 23:50    Post subject:
I have 416 version. Newest is 609

Worth upgrade? Or 416 is still a safe version ?


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azzman




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 02:35    Post subject:
Here's a chatlog from C4E about the new protections ["AP2.5 Checks"] added to the (beta/leaked) fall 2010 dashboard with new games:

[c4eva] New AP25 checks confirmed on new dash with fable 3, LT+ coming for required drives with SSv3 and anti AP25 included!
[c4eva] there are 5 ap25 checks done when xex is launched!
[c4eva] samsung doesnt have ap25
[c4eva] 360s LT+ will include this now
[c4eva] samsung and some old hitachi dont have ap25
[c4eva] samsung wont do ap25, it will be skipped (safe)
[c4eva] they will detect your drive changing to a samsung! [if you spoof to Samsung]
[c4eva] confirmation will need to be done on released retail kinect dash!
[c4eva] at this point, only new games check ap25!
[c4eva] kreon=fail!

The new final fall2010 dashboard is still expected to hit retail consoles on or before Nov 4th (Kinect release date).
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gABBY




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 10:23    Post subject:
Wel I'm still on Benq LT 1.1 and all games work like a charm.

So I presume not to update till there's a fully new and tested fw?
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azzman




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 02:11    Post subject:
[c4eva] ap2.5 already defeated, backup fable 3 running fine on beta dash! more data required for analysis!
[**] C4 are you planning on releasing the new LT+ for the old consoles? ie. not slim?
[c4eva] **:yes

[***] c4eva, is it confirmed that current FW and older games will be safe in the new dash?
[c4eva] ***:unknown at present!

[c4eva] dash out?
[c4eva] version please?
[c4eva] so it begins,dash version please?
[****] c4 2.0.12611.0
[c4eva] very good, thx, same version im already working with!

[*****] C4 are you still working on hitas? Will they eventually be released =)?
[c4eva] *****:was working on it , not for a while now!
[*******] c4eva so there will be a LT+ for lite-on and benq drives
[c4eva] yes

[c4eva] ok, have logged the update process, analysing!
[c4eva] logged entire update process, no vendor packets, only standard inquiry and key exchange, so update process safe!
[c4eva] fable 3 not safe! ap2.5 active for that title with new dash!

[c4eva] as soon as we have enough data on ap25 then there will be something
[c4eva] testing more game titles soon for ap25!
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 23:51    Post subject:
hmmm I readed a bit just to find what is latest non ap25 beta and found that its safe to install 12581 becouse ap25 started with 606

tried fable III. It didnt wanted to boot and gave me an unrecognized disc error(i got sweaty at this point). So I tried castlevania and no problem. Then again fable and it works allright. Laughing

xVAL2.0 SAYS i FAILEd ap25 challenge. So how is that I failed, (I am flagged?) and fableIII works after a couple of tries? I mean. It works now everytime I want. Just like every other game. It just gave me an error for first two tries

And how is that sp25 test is in 12581? I thought it appers in 606...




Anyway. My question is can I update to OFFICIAL 1st nov dash now that I failed and fableIII works? Or will it stop working becouse they implemented 25ap further somehow?


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 23:15    Post subject:
OK I couldnt resist and connected to live (flagged after failing ap25 on 12581) and updated to official dash.

Then I unplugged myself and FAble 3 STILL works! I dont know how but damn its great:P


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deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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Social




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2010 12:39    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
OK I couldnt resist and connected to live (flagged after failing ap25 on 12581) and updated to official dash.

Then I unplugged myself and FAble 3 STILL works! I dont know how but damn its great:P


got a samsung or hitachid rive probably
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2010 17:03    Post subject:
I dont think so.

it looks like liteOn looking at the deck.

And Its Jasper Elite I got in March this year.

+It got 1.61LT(or something like that)


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Social




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2010 17:27    Post subject:
Damn now you're making me doubt if I should flash it to the latest too...

I have a BenQ and a beta dashboard for Kinect. Just received my Kinect today and will play with it for the first time tonight. I also have 1.61 , I still patch all my games to wave 3
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2010 19:49    Post subject:
I am not patching games. Just using ABGX and burn with 4x speed?


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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 20:29    Post subject:
OK, now things are starting to make sense. AC Brotherhood should be protected by the new software. So that's why my waves patcher generated an error message. And that's why I *always* get the dirty disc error. Black Ops boots fine but Brotherhood just won't boot.

Interestingly: Brotherhood INSTALLS just fine to the HD! But when I tick the play box the disc error message pops up again.

I think I have a Benq or LiteOn drive -- should I update the firmware?


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 20:48    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao wrote:

I think I have a Benq or LiteOn drive -- should I update the firmware?
if you wanna play brotherhood, yes
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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 22:52    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:

I think I have a Benq or LiteOn drive -- should I update the firmware?
if you wanna play brotherhood, yes


Oh FFFFF... iddlesticks! I won't try to flash the whole thing myself, but I know this hacking d00d in the neighbourhood that will


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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2010 08:50    Post subject:
Also, you probably have to run the iso through newest abgx first to get the AP2.5 data.
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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 15:07    Post subject:
Xenthalon wrote:
Also, you probably have to run the iso through newest abgx first to get the AP2.5 data.


You mean the new AC Brotherhood iso?


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