[XBOX360] Xbox 360 Slim
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2010 08:34    Post subject: [XBOX360] Xbox 360 Slim
Wow this looks interesting! No images of the console housing yet unfortunately.

http://kotaku.com/5495181/rumor-new-xbox-360-model-slims-down


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2010 11:36    Post subject:
same rumours floated about with the original xbox, so I will beleive it when I see it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2010 13:01    Post subject:
looks a bit like a stunt...first of all, you can't simply combine the cpu and gpu chips. second, even if they did it, the heatsink would have to be a tad more massive (in height), kinda negating the whole slim concept (except if they maybe switched to a smaller nm process) plus the pic makes no sense whatsoever in terms of airflow. third, they wouldn't slap a cooler master onto it Laughing

but it wouldn't surprise me if MS announced a slim at the next E3 or so - new form factor combined with a lower price and natal would be quite the killer for next xmas
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2010 21:29    Post subject:
shipping today, looks fucking sexy!

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Microsoft has officially revealed a new Xbox 360 with a 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-Fi, a shiny new coat of glossy black paint, and, insanely enough, it's shipping to retailers right now.


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Source: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/14/new-xbox-360-shipping-today-for-299-250gb-hdd-built-in-wifi/

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BTW, mods can we move this to console general discussion, not sure why this is in technical...


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2010 22:51    Post subject:
I WANT TO RIP THE GUTS OUT OFF IT AND SEE HOW IT WORKS Cool Face
and then flash it to play games Smug


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2010 23:08    Post subject:
I don't think the new slim model can be moded anytime soon. They revamped the hardware Sad But i'll be getting one bundled with kinetic as soon as i have some flow.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 00:13    Post subject:
Ha said flash, not mod. It's likely that MS has changed the DVD drive but it shouldn't pose a greater challenge then the previous drive revisions. They can't revamp the DVD-ROM standard.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 00:15    Post subject:
I thought I read mod first... Cool Face


We'll see once they open it up.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 01:09    Post subject:
if they added a lite-on in it then Cool Face


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 01:22    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Ha said flash, not mod. It's likely that MS has changed the DVD drive but it shouldn't pose a greater challenge then the previous drive revisions. They can't revamp the DVD-ROM standard.


No, but like Nintendo did with the Wii; they can use a drive that can't read burned media. The latest Wii drives physically CANNOT read burned DVDs of any kind. Wii/GC disks only.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 01:24    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
me7 wrote:
Ha said flash, not mod. It's likely that MS has changed the DVD drive but it shouldn't pose a greater challenge then the previous drive revisions. They can't revamp the DVD-ROM standard.


No, but like Nintendo did with the Wii; they can use a drive that can't read burned media. The latest Wii drives physically CANNOT read burned DVDs of any kind. Wii/GC disks only.
but then all the derp nation of xbox will revolt when they can't see they familly DVDs or cds lol wut


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 01:57    Post subject:
You mean just like how everyone raging over the loss of OtherOS on the PS3? You mean how all that rage stopped Sony from doing it...?




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 02:04    Post subject:
Bla bla bla, see you all console derps when they come out with some special "next-gen" anti-piracy scheme that is uncrackable, "so you are all fucking then", you'll be back to the PC in no time. Smug
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 02:24    Post subject:
nice vid showing an in-detail unboxing.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/14/xbox-360-slim-unwrapped-and-unboxed/#continued


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 02:54    Post subject:
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you'll be back to the PC in no time. Smug


Sad

I'll be the first to admit that for me piracy is my first concern.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 07:07    Post subject:
Same as the Xbox Elite lame.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 12:08    Post subject:
A few details about the console via a E3 conference and hands-on experience.
(A rather short article but might be of interest.)

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/64269

Some technical things.
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Much of the noise from the old 360 actually came from the DVD drive spinning. I popped Alan Wake into the new machine and waited to hear what happened. Not much. The new optical drive makes very little noise beyond a few confident clicks as the tray locks into place and it goes about its business.

Likewise, the switch to a larger diameter, slower RPM fan eliminates almost all noise from that either. It also seems to have helped with circulation. Holding my hand above the vented top (with the console stood up) I could easily feel the air being drawn into the case. Internal updates also appear to help the new smaller 360 stay cool. The new model gets 45nm chips and the resulting reduction in power draw has let them drop the new power brick to 135 watts.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 17:26    Post subject:
Well, for me it's not the DVD that makes the sound. It's the fans inside who make the 360 sound like a powerplant. If they fixed that I'm very happy with it. I just hope that making it smaller won't mean bigger chance of RROD....

I do think I'll stay off the first production of this version, see if people who buy it gets any problem with it. Besides, my "old" box is fixed so it might live a few more month...year..hopefully..
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 17:42    Post subject:
It was always the DVD drive making the loud noise, with the internal fan just adding to that. This new one not only has a fab shrink to 45nm, meaning less heat output and power requirement, but also has a LARGER - slower spinning - fan, which reduces noise. Even on my original 360 the noise is negligible at best when you run games from the HDD and not DVD. Barely a hum.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 17:51    Post subject:
I play from the HDD and it sounds like a jetfan, the fans inside directly spin up to max or something. Could just be my 360 though, I have it hooked up into another room from the TV, so I can close the door to the thing..otherwise I can barely hear the TV while playing. My mom thought I had the vaccium cleaner on when she visited...it is that loud I tell you Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 18:12    Post subject:
Well that's odd, because I've had two - a Falcon and a Jasper - and neither are loud in the slightest. CONSIDERABLY quieter than my PS3, for example. It's only when playing from the DVD that it sounds like a hair-drier.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 18:27    Post subject:
Wouldn't this new DVD and motherboard (Part of the GPU/CPU fabrication shrink.) make it difficult to mod this thing though, of course a flash based (Softmod I think it's called here as well.) solution for the reader might be doable eventually unless other measures are taken.
(Removal of DVD-R readability as Sabin pointed out earlier I think though that's probably unlikely.)

EDIT: Then again MS probably sees the piracy as a rather minor concern and if the console sells better that only serves to benefit them.
(I guess that's one reason why bans are not IP specific but for the X360 "serial" and can also limit other functionality.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 21:43    Post subject:
here's my guess;
they've realised how ridiculously dumb it was to use a standard sata-connector and standard hardware for the drives
so they'll implement proprietary connectors and/or interface filmwares
when you're a company the size of microsoft, this is trivial to do and requires physical parts for any would-be pirate
currently simply reflashing the drive is ridiculously easy
all you need is basic knowhow and sightly balls
it blew my mind when i read about it
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 00:45    Post subject:
shole wrote:
here's my guess;
they've realised how ridiculously dumb it was to use a standard sata-connector and standard hardware for the drives
so they'll implement proprietary connectors and/or interface filmwares
when you're a company the size of microsoft, this is trivial to do and requires physical parts for any would-be pirate
currently simply reflashing the drive is ridiculously easy
all you need is basic knowhow and sightly balls
it blew my mind when i read about it

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/ben-heck-ponders-xbox-360-slim-motherboard-memory-unit-support/
it has sata so Laughing
but as of now we don't know the drive and don't know if that fancy camera will need constant live signal to work or get separate updates


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Bla bla bla, see you all console derps when they come out with some special "next-gen" anti-piracy scheme that is uncrackable, "so you are all fucking then", you'll be back to the PC in no time. Smug


Right, because that's the main reason people buy a console! Rolling Eyes

P.S. Getting lonely out there, eh? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:09    Post subject:
No? And I thought the main appeal of consoles was how easy it was to play games, burn and pop in. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:20    Post subject:
the main appeal of consoles is actually playing games instead of raging in the pc subforum about titles going console exclusive Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:22    Post subject:
Hey, you enjoy your console "quality" games like Alan Wake and Fable 3, for 60$ at least a pop, fine with me. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:25    Post subject:
you forgot the "0." before the 60$ Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 02:25    Post subject:
Aha! But I was speaking when there comes a time when you cannot do that. What then? Read my original comment, and then cobALT's response.
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