Problems with teh 2rentz
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 18:53    Post subject: Problems with teh 2rentz
OK, so I've been using torrents for downloading HDrips recently as it seems many of the decent non-scene releases aren't making it to usenet.

But here is my problem.

Whenever I'm downloading using a torrent, my internet speed drops to shit. Like web-browsing is VERY slow and usenet downloads slow to a crawl. The thing is, the torrent is only downloading between 50-150 kbps and uploading no more than 50 kbps. If I exit uTorrent, everything immediately returns to normal.

Also, when I leave it on for a long period of time, the fucking internet stops working all together and I get that little warning flag on my network icon about having limited network connectivity (which also kills my VOIP phone). I can just unplug my cable modem and plug it back in and everything works again.

So wtf? Any ideas? If it matters I am using a wired network adapter (built into my nforce4 mb), no router just cable modem --> VOIP terminal --> computer ... windows XP SP2, and cable internet through a third party using the monopoly's lines.

Is this a problem on my end, or perhaps the motherfucking ISP is throttling/disconnecting me?


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 20:00    Post subject:
there's some tools to check if the isp is throttling
i think there's one by google even

your network also slows down if you're making excessive amounts of connections
if you have 10 downloads with 100 connections for each, that's 1000 connections already
try lower the limits and/or number of simultaneous downloads

oh, and XP's tcpip.sys is hard-limiting the connections aswell
you should crack that if you haven't already
http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=tools
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 20:04    Post subject:
OK, will check when I get home ... although I never have more than 1-2 downloads and 1-2 other things seeding until my ratio is ~1.0 or so. There's not many connections either as the site I'm using isn't all that busy.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 20:06    Post subject:
forwarded the port you are using?
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 21:07    Post subject:
which version u using?
if it's 1.8 roll back to 1.6 and delete all files from C:\Users\YOURNAMEHERE\AppData\Roaming\uTorrent before starting utorrent
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 21:10    Post subject:
Have no issues what so ever using the latest "Utorrent".
Elaborate please "Mortibus"!.


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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2008 22:36    Post subject:
yeah I'm using 1.8 but I had the same issue with 1.6

actually I noticed, doesn't look like my ports are forwarded correctly. Do I need to do this in the cable modem or the voice terminal?


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 00:45    Post subject:
I had something similar to your second problem before I formatted my computer. Whenever I was running uTorrent, or any other torrent-application, my internet would shut down on me for some 20 seconds before coming back online again. The disconnects were very random, could happen every other minute or be fine for 45 minutes.
Clearly not the same problem that you had, but does anyone know why this might have stopped since I formatted my hdd?
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 02:13    Post subject:
u also using XpSP2?
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 02:27    Post subject:
I believe it's slow because you're downloading and uploading ( seeding ) at the same time
drop the upload speed to like 3 but make sure your torrent client doesn't automaticly drop the download speed with it too
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 02:34    Post subject:
ehmmm no, unless his dLd/upLd is 3 [whatever 3 means] max
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 03:22    Post subject:
well set his upload speed to 3kb and let download speed to unlimited/0

because uploading tend to slow the internet browsing a lot more than downloading ( unless you have a 100mb connection )
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 03:31    Post subject:
if u lower upLd speed that much considering your max upL is 100 kb/s and someone is superseeding expect same dLd speed
as long as your upLd does not exceed 90% of it's maximum your dLd should be at max
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2008 03:37    Post subject:
You need minimum 6 upload un utorrent or it will cap your download rate to dialup speeds.

About the tcpip.sys hacking, if you're using Vista SP1 (either 32 or 64 bits), every time you boot, you'll have to click F8 and select Disable Driver Signing. There are stupid ways around it (like a half-working pos tool that does that process for you), but IMO it is much better to patch tcpip.sys and do the extra steps to boot, as opposed to staying with such a low amount of connections. I think I have my tcpip.sys set to 50000 connections, if not more.
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Oct 2008 06:39    Post subject:
ok, I'm not really doing that much traffic ... this is pretty much the most it's been...



but I've never bothered with this port forwarding business ... again, do I need to do it for just the cable modem or the voice terminal as well?

btw, I've been working on Mongol for like 2 weeks now on and off ... :/


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Oct 2008 06:58    Post subject:
did u tried to lower your upload speed overall
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Oct 2008 18:39    Post subject:
@ nouseforaname

Calculate/test your maximum upload and then limit your upload speed in uTorrent by keeping something like one third of your maximum upload for your others network activities. Do open your forwarding connections port within your modem/router, and if you use any software firewall configure it properly too.

LeoNatan wrote:
you need minimum 6 upload un utorrent or it will cap your download rate to dialup speeds.
I have usually nothing left in seeding, my current downloads' upload limited to a ludicrous 23kB/s and have some downloads speed well above the Mb... Dunno what you are talking about mate. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Oct 2008 21:21    Post subject:
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Whenever I'm downloading using a torrent, my internet speed drops to shit. Like web-browsing is VERY slow and usenet downloads slow to a crawl. The thing is, the torrent is only downloading between 50-150 kbps and uploading no more than 50 kbps. If I exit uTorrent, everything immediately returns to normal.


I've had exactly the same problem, whenever I tried out utorrent my internet started to slow down....

my solution was easy, azureus....


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2008 03:15    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
ok, I'm not really doing that much traffic ... this is pretty much the most it's been...

/****/

but I've never bothered with this port forwarding business ... again, do I need to do it for just the cable modem or the voice terminal as well?

btw, I've been working on Mongol for like 2 weeks now on and off ... :/

Nouse, I suspect it's the HD site you're using. It took me to download Mongol-Esir from that site 4 days. I think that some of the uploaders there are just slow.
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2008 23:55    Post subject:
so shit, it looks like it was the upload speed ... changed it to 1kbps and now everything seems fine... my ratio is going to shit though Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2008 23:59    Post subject:
1 is overkill, what's your max
do not exceed 90% and u should be fine
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2008 04:58    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
so shit, it looks like it was the upload speed ... changed it to 1kbps and now everything seems fine... my ratio is going to shit though Razz


as others have said, just keep it at between 80 and 90% of your max upload-speed, and you should be fine
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