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 Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 01:12 Post subject: Valve: Download Better, Stronger, Faster on Steam |
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New thread so that more people read this.
http://store.steampowered.com/news/5856/
| Quote: | Over the years, Steam has delivered a lot of bits to a lot of people. Delivering content is really at the core of Steam, and we have been working on improving that core. As of today, you can download some of the content on Steam using all-new server and client code to get the job done.
The new content system is designed to do two things: deliver better download rates in more places around the world, and also to simply streamline the publishing process on Steam, ultimately making it possible to ship more games than we would have been able to with the old system.
The maximum aggregate bandwidth of the system will be greater than the current system; this will help us satisfy spikes in demand when there’s a big release. We will also be able to send content from more places, to better serve people all around the globe. All the content on the new system is sent via HTTP; this is more firewall-friendly than the current system, and will automatically take advantage of web-caching proxies installed at ISPs.
Another way that the new content system improves the bandwidth picture is by requiring each user to download less data. With the Steam content system that’s been in place for a few years now, if an individual file on disk were modified by a game update, your client had to download the whole file. That can be painful when the file in question is really large. The new system supports delivering only the differences between the old and new files, meaning game updates will be much smaller overall.
These changes have given us an opportunity to write new tools for game developers and content publishers that simplify the process of both publishing and updating a game on Steam. Simplifying the publishing process means it takes the partner and us less time to ship each product, so we can ship more stuff to more users.
In addition, the new content system will allow us to build several new features that we’ve often heard requested. Upcoming client releases will include things like download scheduling, bandwidth throttling, and prioritizing which games get downloaded first. You’ll also be able to download an update to a game while you’re playing that game; Steam will apply the update after you exit the game.
Over time, more and more of the content on Steam will be delivered using this new system. Soon, Dota 2 will be delivered using it. In the meantime, if you’d like to try out this new content system you can do so right now; if you download a 1280x720 (HD) trailer from the store, it will happen via the new content system. Give it a try! |
tl;dr As of today (or more correctly once content starts using the new tech - like HD trailers already do):
- Better speeds
- Firewall friendly
- ISP web-cache proxy friendly
- Less data to download (only the changed bits - no need to download 9GB files for a Witcher 2 update)
- New tools for developers managing their updates
- More frequent updates to games
In the future:
- Download scheduling
- Bandwidth throttling
- Prioritizing which games get downloaded first
- Downloading an update to a game while you’re playing that game, and it'll be applied once you exit
inb4 but Steam development has become stagnant
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 01:14 Post subject: |
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Anyone who thinks Steam has "stagnated" is sadly deluded.
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ClaudeFTW
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 01:52 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Anyone who thinks Steam has "stagnated" is sadly deluded. |
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 01:52 Post subject: |
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All hail Valve!
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 02:03 Post subject: |
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Who thinks it's stagnant? It gets very regular updates.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 07:07 Post subject: |
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As long as they improve speeds.. I sometimes get shafted here, and it can only be because valve doesn't really have a server here.
Anything in country is generally pretty fast 100Mb/s to home, so I often pull 10MB/s off local game servers, but so many times I go to download a steam game, in a country where steam is not as huge as the other guys giving it away for free, and I crawl along at like 100-300kB/s
not terrible on a small game, but staring down 9 GB at that speed..
If they do have a server in country it's like one, and the cable must be frayed.
Intel i5 6500 3.2Ghz, Geforce 970GTX 2GB, 16 GB Ram, Windows 7
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 07:19 Post subject: |
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Finally.. hope we can now play/download the games whenever we want and not get the "servers are too busy" message 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 09:20 Post subject: |
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well i applaud two things... one is faster speeds, and two is that finally they got their thumb out, and made downloads only for fixed things, not the entire files.
that being said, its sure taken them long enough... still remains to be seen if the speeds actually do increase.
and btw, 'updates' and stagnation are two seperate issues.
as far as stagnation goes, i still havent seen anything from them that makes me want to buy games from them. they still dont offer any kind of buy-back credit system (i WOULD say that steam really WAS innovative if they ever did this), and their pricing is still exactly the same shit...
seriously, you dont think 80 USD for duke nukem forever is just a tad high? you want to talk stagnation, how about prices of digital distribution.. wasnt that supposed to mean shit would be faster and cheaper? and if youre going to start that 'valve has no say on the prices of its OWN SYSTEM, thats just rubbish. stop defending their blatant price hiking bullshit.
but whatever... if you like steam, then great... but theres nothing innovative here - even in this update... faster speeds? patches that DONT require insane and redundant downloading? how is this innovation? how is this 'special'?
THIS is a revolution in software? come on.
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 11:51 Post subject: |
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The price thing has been discussed to death, yes it sucks. As with all promises when something new comes, promises mean shit. Atleast they're doing crazy sales.
How exactly would Valve dictate prices? You think a publisher like Activision would crumble under any pressure? They'd just take their shit elsewhere. Only thing that can be done is boycot such shit as a consumer.
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 12:33 Post subject: |
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Take the pricing discussion away from this thread as it has absolutely nothing to do with innovation or more features or whatever.
That's like calling AMD an innovative company for rehashing their CPU design for the nth time, because the prices are generally cheap. That's not a sign of innovation!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 12:41 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | that being said, its sure taken them long enough... still remains to be seen if the speeds actually do increase. |
By definition, downloading smaller updates means there will be more bandwidth available, therefore speeds will increase.
| Quote: | but whatever... if you like steam, then great... but theres nothing innovative here - even in this update... faster speeds? patches that DONT require insane and redundant downloading? how is this innovation? how is this 'special'?
THIS is a revolution in software? come on. |
Not necessarily innovative or a revolution, but it's not "fluff" as you said for Steam Guard (until you got hacked and enabled it)
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 12:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 12:58 Post subject: |
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And why is that?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 13:07 Post subject: |
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Because they are not available at the moment.
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 15:47 Post subject: |
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Well, the speeds are pretty much the same for me...I guess.
I just downloaded Homefront again and it was a a steady 4.2MB/s which I've had before as well. Unless perhaps they meant that download speeds for patches are faster? o.O
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 15:50 Post subject: |
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^ According to Valve (or at least this is what I understood) right now only HD videos are delivered via the new system.
In the future more content will be, and eventually all games and updates will use the new system, in fact one of them (which might actually be the first one) is going to be Dota 2.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 15:54 Post subject: |
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no need for TWO valve threads, closed.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 17:59 Post subject: |
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re-opened, because somebody made the point that this is about Steam as a service and not about Valve as a company. I dont mind either way.
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