Bluetooth audio on PC
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 08:14    Post subject: Bluetooth audio on PC
I bought some Sennheiser Momentum 4 headphones and they work great on Android

However, on PC and Deck, there's a significant audio delay. I did some reading around and the tablet uses aptX, but I can't see a way to enable this on PC. I tried some poxy driver based solution, but it didn't work.

Is there a way around this? Doesn't have to be aptX, but something that simply cuts down the crazy delay. All I could otherwise find was this:

https://us.creative.com/p/speakers/creative-bt-w5

But it's kind of annoying having to plug that into something like the Deck with it's single USB-C port (can't charge and listen at the same time)

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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 09:33    Post subject:
I had a similar issue with my quest 2. Ended up going with the wired way.
(Sorry)
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 09:50    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 11:25    Post subject:
garus wrote:
What bluetooth hardware version your PC/deck/Android have? Headphones have 5.2 it seems.

https://www.steamdeck.com/en/tech

Bluetooth - Bluetooth 5.0 (support for controllers, accessories and audio)
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 11:42    Post subject:
I have the same issue with my galaxy buds pro.
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 11:46    Post subject: Re: Bluetooth audio on PC
Interinactive wrote:
I bought some Sennheiser Momentum 4 headphones and they work great on Android

However, on PC and Deck, there's a significant audio delay. I did some reading around and the tablet uses aptX, but I can't see a way to enable this on PC. I tried some poxy driver based solution, but it didn't work.

Is there a way around this? Doesn't have to be aptX, but something that simply cuts down the crazy delay. All I could otherwise find was this:

https://us.creative.com/p/speakers/creative-bt-w5

But it's kind of annoying having to plug that into something like the Deck with it's single USB-C port (can't charge and listen at the same time)



I had no problems with the deck and my WH-1000XM3 . I've read somehwere you can choose codecs in the PulseAudio app in desktop mode, but I don't have my deck anymore so can't check that.


On PC I use the older BT-W3 and it works flawlessly with aptx. I'm sure the delay is there, but I simply can't see it in movies or games. While using the integrated bluetooth the delay was noticeable.
It also actually works better than the FiiO BTA30 PRO I had, since the latter would introduce random choppiness sometimes.
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Oct 2023 11:56    Post subject:
I'm using a Creative BT-W3 dongle for bluetooth on my PC (no built-in). It has support for various codecs - aptX, aptX LL, aptX HD and SBC, though my Momentum 3 don't support aptX HD so it's always running on LL.. What codecs does your PC bluetooth support? I guess it's a built-in one on mobo?

Apparently forcing SBC on Deck solves the issue, and it's even possible to force LL in desktop mode. I don't own a deck so can't help with the details.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/ujtzm6/hey_valve_can_we_default_to_aptx_ll_low_latency/
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2023 05:17    Post subject:
Not sure what the PC has, apparently Qualcomm own aptX and so Windows can't have it by default. Like I said, I tried a few different things, including a paid app trial that uses aptX somehow, but it was junk.

As for the Deck fix, I did see that post but it didn't work for me

Bought the BT-W5, the difference is night and day on PC. It's perfect now

garus wrote:
What bluetooth hardware version your PC/deck/Android have? Headphones have 5.2 it seems.


I think it all comes down to what codec is being used

The tablet (Samsung Galaxy S9 FE+) uses v5.3

If I change it to a shitty codec, the delay is still there. aptX removes it completely

Bendi wrote:
I had no problems with the deck and my WH-1000XM3 . I've read somehwere you can choose codecs in the PulseAudio app in desktop mode, but I don't have my deck anymore so can't check that.


The problem is you can only do it in desktop mode, and it doesn't save for regular mode. Pretty poor ImmOOOO. I didn't know about any of this until I bought BT headphones, it kinda sucks.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2023 10:40    Post subject:
Good to hear the BT-W5 solved at least your PC problems. Yeah, even the older version is good. No problems with using a gamepad via integrated bt and listening at the same time either.

I don't know what the latency is, but since it does not in any way impede gaming I also don't care.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Nov 2023 08:46    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Nov 2023 13:54    Post subject:
That's what I wanted to hear Very Happy. I'm still thinking about buying, brother has the "old" one, but the issues described here made me rethink at that time. OLED seems like the way to go
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Nov 2023 14:41    Post subject:
i had the same problem w my headset. also "surround" sound wasn't working properly (random cut outs).
never found a solution and ended up using the proprietary 2.4ghz dongle instead of BT
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