Electric energy consumption
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 00:19    Post subject: Electric energy consumption
About half a year ago I realised I had to cut back on energy consumption.
Hopefully this sharing can help a little.

I replaced all lamps with LED ones.
I bought a wattage meter, looking like this:



I measured the standby Ampères of the machines here (microwave, coffee machine and washing machine). Especially the washing machine was bad (about 100 kWh leakage a year).

I put all all electric appliances after some kind of breaker.



Current usage:



Looking good right? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 02:06    Post subject:
Despite getting dnurk from time to time, I have a job and can afford electricity. 🤯
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 02:27    Post subject:
In my case it is not about being able to afford it, but wanting to lower my consumption.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 02:30    Post subject:
Good idea, lower your consumption Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 05:57    Post subject:
Wattage meter is good to have indeed..

Electricity prices will go up by 13500% later today in Sweden (for my region). No way i will be able to afford to run my computer, much less play any games with a 3090 lol. Glad i have the PS5 which at least has a way lower draw. My PC with its 7 HDD's + tons and tons of USB devices draws like 4x at least.. sure, this peak will most likely not be for the entire month but it's crazy..

"Wasting electricity" (=playing games, doing music with electronic equipment = my 2 main hobbies) will be a thing of the past soon i reckon, something only rich will be able to do. I mean it's fucking summer and the prices are peaking like this lol...
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 10:42    Post subject:
I have a Ryzen 7 eight core processor (noting special), I turned 6 cores off:

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 11:13    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
I have a Ryzen 7 eight core processor (noting special), I turned 6 cores off:



You're joking, right?


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 13:43    Post subject:
BTW, iconized, in a moment of seriousness: multi core CPUs are a lot more power efficient than single or dual core ones. When you disable your cores, you stress the other cores, causing higher usage, because the scheduler cannot take advantage of all the cores it expects. So your PC works for longer and wastes more energy. If you want to be more economic, undervolt and downclock all the cores in your CPU, instead of disabling them.

But I know, you just dunkirk, showing images from a VM, to seek attention. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 16:35    Post subject:
How many processes are effectively multi threaded these day? The majority of my PC activities is watching youtube vids or vids from other sources.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 17:13    Post subject:
the idea is that your pc is running 100s of processes simultaneously, and they get thrown around on all available cores
granted they are small processes while game processes take an insane amount of power, still do not underestimate the free cores for side processes
additionally idle cores get throttled down and undervolted
same goes for memory and GPU too
if enabled in BIOS

I have a 5950X (16 cores) + 3080 + 32GB ram OC + SSDs + HDDs
my "working state" power consumption is currenly 0.65 Amps, 130Watts, 21kW/h according to my watt meter for my PC case
my "gaming state" is over 400W
maximum theoretical pull for the PC case is over 650W
and I have a 850W Gold PSU


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 18:15    Post subject:
I will use that wattage meter to measure it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 18:28    Post subject:
Your are at essent now?
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 18:48    Post subject:
Yes signed a 3 year contract with them starting April 1 this year. I used to be with "Welkom Energie". They went broke then Eneco took me over and had to pay € 161 a month. Got my end bill this May and they had to pay me € 381,47 back. Hahahaha, it was cold this winter. Sad

Edit: Might be that people from outside the Netherlands don't get this story.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 19:01    Post subject:
I am also thinking about hiring a mechanic to change the CVW (central heating and warm water apparatus) to modify it to use a propane bottle instead of a gas subscription.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 19:44    Post subject:
All my lights are LEDs, it's a no-brainer choice nowadays Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 20:36    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
Cutting back on electricity Have shaved a lot myself off already the last couple of years. LED lights save a lot. Another big save was replacing an old fridge that used 2.5 kWh per day, the new one does about about 0.35 kWh per day

Usage is still pretty high here though, even with solar panels (4000 kWh a year) I'm still at 2500 kWh a year.


2.5k per day wtf?!
Was it a walk in freezer? Lol. The only power consumption we have that's extra are electronic oil radiators. Two of them.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 21:54    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
They went broke then Eneco took me over and had to pay € 161 a month. Got my end bill this May and they had to pay me € 381,47 back. Hahahaha, it was cold this winter. Sad

Edit: Might be that people from outside the Netherlands don't get this story.
I get it, same deal in Norway.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2022 05:31    Post subject:
i have ~100kw per month consumption
my signature PC, my wifes laptop, old dishwasher, A++ washing machine, A+++ fridge, A++ drying machine, old electric oven, water kettle, vacuum robot, 55" tv, full led 8-9W osram bulbs for illumination, i even replaced the old incandescent bulb with a led from the old cooker hood
i pay around 20euros per month for electricity its ok for now Smile

last month i payed 78lei/15.5euros for 99Kw


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