Time to upgrade to Skylake(?)
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 15:56    Post subject: Time to upgrade to Skylake(?)
Should I?

Currently running 3570K @ 5GHz + Z77 OC Formula with 4x4GB DDR3.
And R9 390 AMD MASTERRACE!11!!11111111

The new Skylakes seem to give 20%+ FPS improvements in games already so I'm thinking they might be a worthwhile upgrade finaly.

But what Mobo to get? Will propably go for 2800MHz or 3000MHz RAM as the cost isn't that different to 2133MHz and there seems to be some difference in performance going up from 2133MHz, not all the way to 2800 or 3000 but more doesn't hurt right?

Also the new CPUs having BCLK unlimited by other factors and being viable to overclock, I might be able to save some bucks going for non-K CPU cause they will overclock just fine aswell?

Thoughts on what mobo/cpu to get are welcome. I plan on pushing the CPU to it's limits so a 50€ mobo won't exactly do it.
Here I am hoping AsRock has improved their Z170 boards around the ~150€ mark with better PWM than the Z77 series had around that price...

Or should I go for some other manufacturer? Had AsRock boards since P67 and still happy with em.
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 16:11    Post subject:
Wait for the official sand-nigger edition as it's more up your alley. Laughing


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farne




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 16:19    Post subject:
I'd say no. Let DDR4 mature for a bit, and wait and see if AMD's Zen is any good. If the latter isn't a performer, grab an Intel if the performance jump will be in akin to what sandy bridge was compared to lynnfield.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 16:46    Post subject:
Zen is Q4 2016 if I'm not mistaken, that is like a year from now, and for some reason I doubt AMD will be pulling any miracles in the CPU department.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 17:24    Post subject:
Skylake = Shitlake

And who the fuck says Skylake gives 20% more performance? Laughing
Maybe compared to the first generation.
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 17:34    Post subject:
rather buy a new gfx card
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 17:44    Post subject:
Yep. Getting a 970 or 980 would increase the performance for you much more, than some CPU upgrade.


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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 17:53    Post subject:
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390 faster than 970 in every game pretty much (except tomb raider?): http://www.maximumpc.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-edition-tested/
And it will actually run games even a year or two from now! I'm sorry but I'm not a big fan of 3.5GB gimped cards.

Next please.
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:07    Post subject:
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390 faster than 970 in every game pretty much (except tomb raider?): http://www.maximumpc.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-edition-tested/
And it will actually run games even a year or two from now! I'm sorry but I'm not a big fan of 3.5GB gimped cards.

Next please.



so you are fan of slow gfx cards and a fan of overpriced upgrades with almost no fps increase at all. maybe buy an xbox then.
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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:10    Post subject:
I'm running a 3570K @ 4.5Ghz and occasionaly ask myself the same question.

But since no game I ever played has been running below acceptable FPS because of my CPU, I simply dont need an upgrade.

Do you need an upgrade? Well there is your answer.

I'll probably upgrade to some 8 core Intel or Zen somwhere in 2016 for the heck of it. But 'll certainly not upgrade to another Quad before that.


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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:11    Post subject:
I guess if you ask it like "Do you need" then propably no.
Do I want? Not sure yet.

I mean 5GHz 3570K is ok~ish still.

Got too much money at hands... Maybe I'll buy some SSD instead, this 120GB is not that big these days...
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:13    Post subject:
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:14    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.





????
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 19:14    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
I guess if you ask it like "Do you need" then propably no.
Do I want? Not sure yet.

I mean 5GHz 3570K is ok~ish still.

Got too much money at hands... Maybe I'll buy some SSD instead, this 120GB is not that big these days...


Get a 968gb ssd for 200 notes.

@friewald - "so you are fan of slow gfx cards and a fan of overpriced upgrades with almost no fps increase at all. maybe buy an xbox then."



I done a tiny upgrade this year, i7490k z97 pro gamer board and some 1866mhz ram. Leaving amd products behind it seems for good now.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 19:18    Post subject:
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 19:21    Post subject:
Frap Frap Guy
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 19:26    Post subject:
AND AGAIN A THREAD TURNS TO SHIT BECAUSE OF AMD!!!!


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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 20:38    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
AND AGAIN A THREAD TURNS TO SHIT BECAUSE OF AMD!!!!



IT ALL STARTED CAUSE OF NVIDIA THOUGH
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 21:39    Post subject:
Only real upgrade after i5/i7 sb or later is X99 setup, if you must "upgrade" then go for skylake i7. Im personally waiting new LGA2011-v3 cpu's. My gf has my old 2700k setup @ 5ghz, and i cannot see any difference with it compared to my haswell setup if i use 980ti on both systems in gaming.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 22:00    Post subject:
Haswell-E costs a bazillion more than Skylake though.

But I'm starting to think my 3570K should suffice for now once I get back my Z77 OC Formula from warranty... this H61M mobo not so stronk!

On unrelated note about the Jimms doing SilentRigs warranties like you said:


So sending the mobo straight to AsRock in Netherlands.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Dec 2015 08:56    Post subject:
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