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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jul 2024 01:48    Post subject:
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jul 2024 12:54    Post subject:
Not cool Intel, not cool at all. The way they've (not) been addressing the issue in any way besides the "oops, better luck next time bojo!" is especially risible and it's going to bite them in the ass. I hope mine hasn't been too affected (no BSODs so far, but still) so that when the microcode fix/patch gets released in a couple of weeks I can resume the most performance-intensive tasks.

The processor was probably engineered to start failing as soon as after the warranty as possible, only they overdid it Sad Laughing
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jul 2024 13:41    Post subject:
I don't know, in my experience with my laptop cpu 13980hx it was unstable as fuck out of the box and performed poorly, but with a strong undervolt and limiting PL1 and PL2 to 130 instead of 175W as it was out of the box it's been flawlessly stable and had a massive performance boost, at least in shit like cinebench, in actual game the performance is more or less the same, but I don't go over 80C anymore in games and like I said, it is perfectly stable. Previous to that it would go to 95C and just throttle all the time. But don't worry, if you talk to manufacturers they tell you its perfectly normal for modern CPUs to run hot...
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|DXWarlock




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jul 2024 14:33    Post subject:
Yea Intel has been pretty 'used car salesman' vibe for me for a while.
Why my last 3 CPU's have been AMDs.

I try to sit squarely on the fence of whoever is best bang for the buck the month I build my PC as I have flopped between them over the last 30 years as it comes.

But since 2000~ish I have wanted to avoid anything they make because it either seems iffy, or the way they implement and deploy 'features' feels less like new tech and more like "You couldn't figure out a way, so you gutted parts and called them 'power saving features'.
[looking at you E cores to pad core count on the box].


“I’d rather have questions I can’t answer than answers I can’t question.“ Richard Feynman.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2024 17:04    Post subject:
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Intel told us today that it will extend the warranty on its boxed Intel Core 13th- and 14th-Gen processors by two additional years. Intel's warranty extension comes as a result of the crashing and instability issues that have plagued its 13th- and 14th-Gen chips for months. Those issues impact all 65W and higher models, meaning the crashes have a widespread impact ranging from the flagship models down to even the pedestrian mid-range chips. Intel's processors typically come with a three-year warranty period, so the extension will bring the warranty for most boxed processors to five years.


https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-announces-an-extra-two-years-of-warranty-for-its-chips-amid-crashing-and-instability-issues-longer-warranty-applies-to-13th-and-14th-gen-core-processors

Also: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/01/intel-intc-q2-earnings-report-2024.html
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tonizito




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2024 00:13    Post subject:
Oh yeah, that reminds me I started the day laughing with eurosocjus article on intel layoffs:
https://www.eurogamer.net/intel-says-painful-decision-to-cut-15000-jobs-is-one-of-the-most-consequential-changes-in-its-history

Quote:
Intel is cutting 15,000 jobs as part of a swathe of "significant actions to reduce costs" and save $10m in 2025.
Bottom of the fucking barrel "journalism", can't even copy shit right Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Aug 2024 07:03    Post subject:
Ooof. AMD cpu's gonna get expensive
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jackbomb




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2024 16:34    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I finally got my thumb out of my ass and changed my CPU cooler. My Corsair H100i that I've had for ~10 years is finally gone. It's been a shit cooler the last ~2 years (gunk in the water block and radiator as well as a degraded pump). I've been running my 8700K CPU with hyperthreading disabled and slightly underclocked and undervolted to keep temps under 90 degrees.

I replaced it with a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 (new version) and I can finally run it with hyperthreading as well as overclocking it. Temps max out at ~75 degrees. It's like night and day. I've had the new cooler in a box for a couple of months since I was too lazy to do the swap. I'm glad I did. The system is snappier and smoother for sure.


After a bit of reading, comparisons and the like, got my hands on a Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE for 40€. This aircooler is a beast. Maybe overkill for my CPU (i5 9400F) but I went from 100ºC under full load to 61ºC. And it's future proof for newer board + cpu! Thanks for the heads-up, Frant.
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2024 21:02    Post subject:
9000 series X3D in January 2025.

https://x.com/9550pro/status/1826546009952211245


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2024 09:03    Post subject:
ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI - €455.40
ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI - €489.90
PRIME X870-P WIFI - €328.44
ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO - €704.52
ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI - €547.20
PRIME X870-P - €314.16
X870 A ELITE WF7 ICE - €353.85

https://x.com/momomo_us/status/1832414077253251258


Over 300€ for an entry level model.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2024 10:16    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI - €455.40
ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI - €489.90
PRIME X870-P WIFI - €328.44
ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO - €704.52
ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI - €547.20
PRIME X870-P - €314.16
X870 A ELITE WF7 ICE - €353.85

https://x.com/momomo_us/status/1832414077253251258


Over 300€ for an entry level model.


Fuck Asus and fuck those prices...


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2024 10:35    Post subject:
Pair it with the new almost 600 euros Asus Azoth Extreme keyboard Laughing
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Sep 2024 21:24    Post subject:
RTX 50 series entered the chat....


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2024 11:10    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
RTX 50 series entered the chat....


Yeah and without any competition
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tonizito




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2024 12:45    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
Fuck Asus and fuck those prices...
This.
Chasus can fuck off


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2024 21:54    Post subject:
first i7 still gaming viable... thank u intel for ten years of 5percent generation performance , shitty consoles and ass crypto making gpus too expensive and wanker ai devs hogging real innovation... pc gaming should be much much further then what we have right now



15 years old ....

imagine how many of these have been landfilled already ... denied a gaming life cause there isnt ebough cheap budget gpus around to mix em with cause them crpyto n ai cunts
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2024 23:09    Post subject:
32GB vram will be fun.. another 12 months of paying off a nvidia card, whatever Laughing

edit: wrong thread though Wink


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konkol84




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Oct 2024 15:45    Post subject:
Is AM5 still such a hot mess like it was 2 pages back? Smile

Starting to plan an upgrade and not sure if it's back to Intel time or AM5...

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Ryzen 7600x/5600x/3600 | 5070TI/3080/3070Ti | 32GB RAM | LG 55OLEDC9/42OLEDC2 |
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Oct 2024 17:13    Post subject:
https://www.tech-america.com/item/amd-ryzen7-9800x3d-8core/100-100001084wof $484

The release date is 7th of November.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Oct 2024 17:05    Post subject:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-9-285k/

Seems like ####X3D will be the king for gaming..

Shame intel couldnt come up with better product.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Oct 2024 12:19    Post subject:
Intel is getting asshanded by the "old" 7800x3D already, the new X3D one will make gap even bigger lol. Looks like intel does not know how to make better products.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Oct 2024 22:18    Post subject:
wtf was intel thinking ... slower. unstable .... to proud to cancel the line and now they get shit on Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Oct 2024 23:26    Post subject:
Not really a good thing though unless you're a moron. AMD will cool down their advancements if they get a head
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Oct 2024 14:53    Post subject:
https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1225/the-gaming-legend-continues-amd-introduces

9800X3D for $479


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2024 10:43    Post subject:
all these efforts on efficiency ... meanwhile people using oled tvs as their main pc monitor , making any watts saved by a cpu gpu meaningless in the total power usage as the monitor uses most

laptops also already have batteries that last entire days so why the fuck wouldnt we use more power .... something just off. like they hit a limit they cant get passed without becoming unstable shit

amd had 60% drop in gaming sales compared to last year quarter or something

i hope the supermicro stock crash will be the needle that pops the ai bubble and make these cunts do a firesale like we never seen before

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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 13:35    Post subject:
Finally upgraded my motherboard from ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI to Asrock X870E Taichi and got proper ram G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000).

Everything runs very smooth with 7800x3d.


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Nov 2024 15:21    Post subject:
new king but in gaming it doesnt matter at all the 5800x3d 7800x3d and 9800x3d get the exact same frames in 4k gaming on a 4090 ....

there is simply no gpu out there that will use all the cpu power available... its just sad . if only we had something called SLI or crossfire .... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Nov 2024 15:53    Post subject:
Yea but e-sports lads will be glad

or those few that have a 4090 and choose to play at 1080p
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tonizito




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 00:27    Post subject:


These fucking mongs should be forced to never ever touch a pc for the rest of their life Facepalm Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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