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| farne wrote: | | Don't be stupid. Wait for Skylake. The past 3 years Intel has done few improvements for desktop processors since glorious Sandy bridge. |
He is using old ass ancient Q8200, the performance bump will be insane for him. Just go for it kurwa.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 17:50 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | 10 fps between 88 and 98 makes zero difference, then again i usually use soap to wash my face, dunno about you
let's take shit port EW which with my current config i can run stable at 30 fps sometimes droping in to 27 which is about same performance with the same config but i7 4770k@4.7ghz, so yeah whatever |
Yes, let's base everything on a single shit port. What's next, taking GTA4 as the ultimate GPU benchmark? 
If a game runs at 60 but has drops to 20 FPS, raising that 20 to 30, or even 25, already makes it "feel" a lot smoother. Or in the case of a true V-Sync without / with bad buffering, raising your minimum from even 59 to 60 makes all the difference in the world  |
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 17:52 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | farne wrote: | | Don't be stupid. Wait for Skylake. The past 3 years Intel has done few improvements for desktop processors since glorious Sandy bridge. |
He is using old ass ancient Q8200, the performance bump will be insane for him. Just go for it kurwa. |
This. Honestly, go for ANY i5/i7 and the performance boosts from a Q8200 will be astronomical. I guarantee it.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 18:02 Post subject: |
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Maybe going for a 4690K is as better ideia than a 4670K no?
The price difference is not much as far as I know and the 4690K is more efficient too.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 22:05 Post subject: |
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| foxhound228 wrote: | Maybe going for a 4690K is as better ideia than a 4670K no?
The price difference is not much as far as I know and the 4690K is more efficient too. |
Huh?
Isn't it the same chip but with a higher bin therefore higher clock speed? 
And yeah, waiting for skylake 
I think I've waited long enough 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 23:34 Post subject: |
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In that case, I will be waiting for the next series from NVIDIA, MAYBE it will have a higher memory bandwidth. /s
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 01:06 Post subject: |
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Since I rarely buy any HW new, I never needed or bought the newest, I have mostly bought used shit. You can save a shitload of money. No idea how the used market in Portugal is though, it's reasonably active here in NL.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 01:19 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Since I rarely buy any HW new, I never needed or bought the newest, I have mostly bought used shit. You can save a shitload of money. No idea how the used market in Portugal is though, it's reasonably active here in NL. |
I fear the used market like the plague 
Although... my Q8200 is used and is rock solid stable so far.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 01:42 Post subject: |
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No, I want 2 year warranty! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 04:44 Post subject: |
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Finally Toni 
Best of luck with the future purchase!
Unfortunately I have no useful tips or advices for you, since I'm out of the loop since late 2011 (when I bought this current rig), and permanent lack of funds is keeping me away from all sorts of news. *gives a hug*
One thing is for sure though, when I jumped from the glorious e6600 to dat i2500k it was a night and day difference, truly. It's gonna be good.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 16:43 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | foxhound228 wrote: | Maybe going for a 4690K is as better ideia than a 4670K no?
The price difference is not much as far as I know and the 4690K is more efficient too. |
Huh?
Isn't it the same chip but with a higher bin therefore higher clock speed? |
Any more on this? Anyone?
I'm seeing a 8€ difference, might even go for the 4690K
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 17:06 Post subject: |
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The 4690K has better TIM (paste), so it'll overclock ever so slightly better. For €8 you might as well really 
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 17:18 Post subject: |
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It's about damn time Kurwaton \o/
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 17:35 Post subject: |
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Don't go for AMD. I don't have a phenom, only an Athlon, but honestly, $70 price difference isn't worth the trouble of not having a really fast system.
I should also start saving monies  Can't play shit anymore :'(
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 18:03 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | The 4690K has better TIM (paste), so it'll overclock ever so slightly better. For €8 you might as well really |
I'll probably do that and get the cheapest z97 that I can find to offset the price a bit.
Then in the near future I can get a proper z97 mobo 
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Well, seems enough to play quake live
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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I can't build a new system until official USB3.1 controllers show up on-board. Its such a game changer for the next few years in terms of portable interface speed. Other aspects like future SATA4 (when!??!), PCI (next-gen), HDMI 2.0 (coming up) I can likely wait on although having HDMI 2.0 would be a real nice bonus.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Oct 2014 10:38 Post subject: |
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That's just a firmware bug by the looks of it, the "eco" mode doesn't actually do anything.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Oct 2014 19:46 Post subject: |
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That's down to their PCI-e lane allocation. Lanes are generally shared between multiple slots.
The SLI sticker requires that cards can be run in x8/x8, Crossfire requires x4/x4. MSI's gaming 3 has only put 2 PCI-e slots above x1 on there and they run at x16/x4 (which can't be turned into x8/x8 because it would leave 4 lanes "open"). Gigabyte's 3 slots are either x16/0/x4 or x8/x8/x4; but if you use the x4 slot, all x1 slots are unusable and vice versa 
It's more marketing than anything else really, especially the fact that Nvidia require x8/x8. PCI-e 3.0/x4 is still the same as PCI-e 2.0/x8 and that is still only a 2-3% performance hit at worst.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2014 17:26 Post subject: |
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Well, after reading some more reviews I think I've settled on the hardware:
i5-4690K
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3
Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB DDR3 1866MHz
Total: 420€, 50 more that I was planning on spending but what the hell
Now I just have to wait two more weeks and hope that there is no freak price hike on any of those
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2014 19:15 Post subject: |
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Why so fast memory? Isn't regular 1600MHz enough?
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2014 19:20 Post subject: |
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| Raccoon wrote: | | Why so fast memory? Isn't regular 1600MHz enough? |
It's the cheapest 8GB the store has
And that price is on par with pretty much everywhere else.
I mean, I could get ye old and reliable KVR again but the difference is 3€ FFS
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2014 19:30 Post subject: |
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Hmmmm... weird.
I just checked and... yeah. The price difference between 1600MHz and 1866Mhz is indeed very small.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2014 19:50 Post subject: |
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You cannot see difference between 1600mhz and 1866mhz ram anyway in real world.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2014 16:37 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | You cannot see difference between 1600mhz and 1866mhz ram anyway in real world. |
I think the amount of memory makes a bigger impact than speed
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2014 01:07 Post subject: |
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Damn, I'm seeing some nice prices on used material... 200km from here 
MSI Z97 gaming 7 for 130€
i7-4790 for 150€
EDIT: I have some dude nearby selling a used i7-4770K for 190€ 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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