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spajdr
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spajdr
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2015 22:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2015 22:55 Post subject: |
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thats nice from asrock indeed, but who buys a z-chipset board an a non k cpu? would be much better if they make it possible on h-boards
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 15:51 Post subject: |
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http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=405142
There's a rumor that the upcoming Intel i7 6950X CPU will retail for 1500$
It is their flagship model I believe and 10 cores with hyper-threading so it was very likely it would be more than the previous 999$ for the top-end model but this is still a pretty large increase though I guess that since there's no real competition and it's primarily for enthusiasts it might probably still sell.
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 17:05 Post subject: |
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The question that immediately comes up is what to do with 20 (!!) threads? How can those 10 cores (20 HT-threads) be used in any efficient way?
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 17:47 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | The question that immediately comes up is what to do with 20 (!!) threads? How can those 10 cores (20 HT-threads) be used in any efficient way? |
Porn, porn will always find a way!
On a more serious note: It was one of questions that also popped into my mind.  |
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Nui
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 17:57 Post subject: |
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Well if you want you can easily max out any computing device. With renderings, scientific stuff...
Or render (several) videos and stream a game at no performance loss?
Just as I can easily max out a Titan Black's 12 GiB VRAM with a neural network... making it a better card than the 980 TI for that purpose.
Surely this thing is not targeted at normal people
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 18:35 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | The question that immediately comes up is what to do with 20 (!!) threads? How can those 10 cores (20 HT-threads) be used in any efficient way? |
lots of virtualisation and a few Oracle-Databases = boom
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Now, I don't know what hardware costs in Poland, I guess it's cheaper because everything is stolen from Germany and resold... |
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Jan 2016 21:31 Post subject: |
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Rebuilding Android from source takes 6+ hours without parallelizing, I would gladly run it with "make -s -j 20" to get it under half an hour. Even if I need just the kernel, getting it in several minutes would be super cool.
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Cyb3r
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2016 02:32 Post subject: |
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even though i have a 5960x thnx intel giveaways! i doubt there's going to be a point to the 10core if it just doesn't clock high enough in most cases with a few exceptions ofc
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2016 12:29 Post subject: |
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| BettyShikle wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | The question that immediately comes up is what to do with 20 (!!) threads? How can those 10 cores (20 HT-threads) be used in any efficient way? |
lots of virtualisation and a few Oracle-Databases = boom |
In other words, a very tiny fraction of specialised customers. Seems to me they'd be better off with Workstation hardware instead of "enthusiast"-level hardware. How many are prepared to shell out $1000 for a CPU to compile an android kernel faster?
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jan 2016 12:34 Post subject: |
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Frant
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jan 2016 21:18 Post subject: |
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What a bunch of bullshit 
So why will the updates work properly on my haswell, for instance, but on a skylake suddenly there's this risk of affecting "reliability and compatibility"?
Are specific CPU features on those older generations disabled/changed on the newer ones so much so that microsoft would need to patch them up? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Jan 2016 22:45 Post subject: |
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* Intel Skylake freeze when doing certain calculations - Intel is pushing out an update for UEFI-bioses.
Well done Intel. First you bungled up with the TSX instruction on Haswell and Broadwell (and forced to completely disable the instruction), now your Skylake CPU crash/freeze when running certain calculations... like those in Prime95, only one of the most used system stability tools. 
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/123766/20160113/skylake-bug-could-crash-your-cpu-heres-how-to-check-if-your-pc-has-it.htm
| Quote: | Intel recently announced that although a number of high-end Skylake CPUs have a tendency to freeze under "complex workload conditions," a fix is now in tow.
Following initial reports targeting only Core i7-6700K desktop CPUs that used Hyper-Threading, Intel explained that more CPUs are vulnerable to the lock-up.
Several forums and IT communities reported the bug during the last period, and tech savvy users replicated the error using Prime95. The software, which is highly popular within the performance and overclocking community, calculates prime numbers by doing highly complex and processing-intensive calculations.
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The CPU manufacturing company further added that it's working closely with third-parties to deliver a fix through a BIOS upgrade.
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Oh well, we've had the FDIV-bug (P4), TLB-bug (first gen. Phenoms) and other serious CPU bugs ruin our days before (we tend not to instantly realise that it's a bug in the CPU but instead spend hours, days and weeks trying to figure out why our pc is crashing intermittently.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2016 11:42 Post subject: |
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Just read about this on another website.
Man, Skylake is such a fail. Wow.
So glad that i chose a 4th Gen CPU for a relative some weeks ago instead of this fucked up 6th Gen.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2016 13:31 Post subject: |
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And I was thinking to move to Skylake this year 
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jan 2016 05:53 Post subject: I have left. |
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thudo
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jan 2016 17:14 Post subject: |
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Guys/Gals.. question..
I gather this is the place to ask as I have the Skylake 6820HK that is fully overclockable (currently @ 4Ghz up from its turbo clock of 3.6Ghz) but I want to input the max voltage recommended to get 4.2Ghz but in the BIOS the Core Voltage setting is only available as an input of whole #s so how do I input 1.215V? 1215? 01215? Something else? I've asked around: nada.. no one ever answers.. don't get it.
Also, as noticed in my sig, I have an MSI laptop and use Intels Extreme Tuning Utility sometimes but the only profiles for overclocking are submitted by Alienware laptops with that processor. Can I use their submitted profiles for my MSI? I want to say YES as I have WatchDog enabled on my system so if something facks up I should be fine. Comments?
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thudo
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2016 15:53 Post subject: |
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Anyone folks?
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2016 21:26 Post subject: |
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My experience with an ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING BIOS UPDATE 1105.Copy/Paste from another place.
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However, i've had a very bad experience with such update. After 2 restarts it refused to load my OS. After some touchings i've reached the OS, but when loading the desktop it stayed as "Preparing Desktop...".. After a few minutes it just loaded a blank background with "This is a pirate license LOL". No icons. The BIOS Updated KILED THE OS.
Later, i've formatted to W7. When i've reached W7, something happened that never happened before the BIOS Update...The mouse's Scrollwheel and thumb buttons DIDN'T WORKED and was LAGGY.. I tought it was a bad format, so i re-formatted. STILL THERE.. I almost gave up, i've installed the MB's CD Drivers....Aaaand the mouse worked as it should..BUT THAT'S AWFULLY WEIRD!!!!!!!
BEWARE OF BIOS UPDATES!!!!...I tought they fixed stuff BUT THEY DON'T MUCH!!!, AND EVEN KILLS!!!
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I've updated to 1105 because i've heard it'd fix some Skylake bug but ....DANGEROUS UPDATE!!!
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thudo
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Sorry to hear.. yeah never heard of that one before. Esshh.. 
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thudo
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No BIOS experts here re: Core Voltage Change input?
MSI GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro S 29th Anniversary Intel i7 6820HK @ 4.0Ghz, 32GB DDR4-2133 RAM, 2x256GB Raid0 Toshiba NVMe 2.5 inch PCIe SSD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 OC'ed 200+ Core / 200+ Mem, 17.3 inch LG IPS HD Display @ 75Hz, Intel 7265AC Wifi, Windows 10 Pro BIOS version: .112 EC Firmware version: .105
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JBeckman
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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_roadmap_shows_skylake_x_and_kaby_lake_x_as_successors_to_broadwell_e.html
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This week we posted our Broadwell-E review, now a new roadmap surfaces. In Q2 of 2017 Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X are mentioned as successor Broadwell-E. That is, it's noted in a roadmap from Intel that has appeared online.
The X-line part seems to be the new name for Intel's HEDT- or High-End Desktop family. The roadmap is published by the Taiwanese site Bench Life, which regularly publishes Intel roadmaps which are often correct. It is striking that both Skylake-X and X-Kaby Lake follow in the third quarter Broadwell-E. The site suggests that Skylake-X as Broadwell-E processors with 10, 8 and 6 cores and a TDP of 140W. Kaby Lake-X would have to serve the mainstream desktop market with quad cores with unlocked multiplier, and TDP of 95W.
Bench Life also publishes a slide of Skylake-W. This is the workstation platform, codenamed Basin Falls. The Skylake-W processors support Socket R LGA 2011 and have a TDP of 140W. They can handle four-channel DDR4 2667MHz memory and the processor are combined with the Kaby Lake-pch to include support for up to twenty PCI-E 3.0 lanes.
Kaby Lake is the successor Skylake and third-generation 14nm processors.
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http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52336/intels-next-gen-skylake-processor-arrive-lga-3647-socket/index.html
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Exclusive: Intel's next-gen Skylake-E processor will slot into new a LGA 3647 socket, up from LGA 2011 (NASDAQ:INTC)
By: Anthony Garreffa | Motherboards News | Posted: 3 days ago
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Computex 2016 - During our first day at Computex, we've spotted some seriously cool hardware, but one of our world exclusives is that Intel will be releasing their next-gen Skylake-E processors onto a new motherboard, with more pins than ever before.
Right now the HEDT processors slot into an LGA 2011 motherboard, but the next-gen chips will be slotting into LGA 3647 socket. This is an interesting tidbit, as it means there'll be new motherboards next year when Skylake-E launches, with 1636 more pins. The socket itself is absolutely huge, especially when compared to the already large LGA 2011 socket, and positively massive compared to the current LGA 1151 in the mainstream market.
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How many pins can you stick on a CPU anyway?
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2016 02:18 Post subject: |
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Or wait for 8 core Zen? Well at least thats what I'm going to do. Its not a safe bet but I just want something different than the usual intel core upgrade. And if its shait, I can still upgrade with intel.
I'm getting a Skylake i3 Nuc though for video streaming and emulators.
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