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IbiGandin




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:09    Post subject:
Works very slow for me as well. Usually I'd wait a minute or so and then give up. I'd take a wild guess that the site database is ancient and can't keep up. Anyway, I've tested both on my home PC as well as a remote machine running a different OS, browser, ISP and located in another country. The result in both case is arbitrary slowness. Confused Anyway, such issues are often hard to pinpoint and address without active maintenance so I guess we'll be stuck with retrying for a while.
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:11    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
And the forum starts loading and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading
and it doesn't stop loading


Guess this won't be fixed after all, huh?


Still the same for me too Sad
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zmed




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:12    Post subject:
The thing about this is that it's completely arbitrary. One moment it's buttery smooth. The next moment it struggles to load anything. Then I stop it from loading, give it a second and all of a sudden it's good again.

All other sites are perfectly fine.
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:13    Post subject:
Yep Sad
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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:15    Post subject:
It seems this problem is mainly happening for people in eastern Europe (and portulol).

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tonizito




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 16:16    Post subject:
Quote:
C:\Windows\System32>tracert -d www.nfohump.com

Tracing route to www.nfohump.com [95.178.107.18]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 23 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.137.202.225
4 15 ms 20 ms 12 ms 10.255.184.90
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 30 ms 25 ms 27 ms 154.54.61.105
7 43 ms 42 ms 43 ms 154.54.61.118
8 53 ms 53 ms 54 ms 154.54.56.173
9 57 ms 56 ms 53 ms 154.54.59.50
10 54 ms 58 ms 54 ms 149.6.0.42
11 65 ms 60 ms 56 ms 37.123.210.81
12 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms 185.23.214.82
13 828 ms 62 ms 53 ms 95.178.107.18

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\System32>




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C:\Windows\System32>ping www.nfohump.com

Pinging www.nfohump.com [95.178.107.18] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 95.178.107.18: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=45
Reply from 95.178.107.18: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=45
Reply from 95.178.107.18: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=45
Reply from 95.178.107.18: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=45

Ping statistics for 95.178.107.18:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 55ms, Maximum = 82ms, Average = 68ms

C:\Windows\System32>
So it's the site? nfohump.com resolves to that IP after all

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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 20:09    Post subject:
I don't see any particular issue in those results. That spike in the traceroute doesn't mean much since it can still be any of the other nodes that is having some congestion issue while you're waiting for a reply from nfohump.

You should do an unlimited number of pings for ~2-3 minutes and redirect it to a text file:

c:\Windows\System32>ping nfohump.com -t > c:\folder\ping.txt


Ultimately tracert and ping are the most basic tools to test a connection. They don't really tell you where the problem lies, that's something you have to perform further problem solving for to find out.

For instance, here's the result I copied from the text file that my ping command created and as you'll see the latency is rock stable with no spikes or interruptions. I added my tracert result as well and as you can see there are no spikes or issues anywhere. The server seems to be in the Netherlands while I am in Sweden. I can say with 99.9999% (+0.0001%) certainty that it's not the server where nfohump is running that is the problem, it's somewhere between your (and the others) PC and nfohump.

As for "I can run other sites without problems", that depends entirely on the routing and which backbones sit between you and the target site. Without actually accessing your PC at your location I can't really do more. I may have some preconception but I have a feeling that internet in eastern Europe and certain other countries tend to be of lower quality/congested in order to save money. Btw, you're not surfing using Wifi are you?

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tonizito




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 21:10    Post subject:
Wifi cause I got no other choice in here.
Anyway, nothing I can do short of changing to another ISP (and that's not going to happen) but cope. Could try a proxy or VPN, but no way I'm paying for a VPN and as for using free shit, well then you don't have that much privacy, now do you?

boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 23:04    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
It seems this problem is mainly happening for people in eastern Europe (and portulol).


US too.
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skx7




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 01:14    Post subject:
i am 2 weeks in Europe right now and it is working fine. in Colombia it is slow as hell as well!
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IbiGandin




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 09:15    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I don't see any particular issue in those results. That spike in the traceroute doesn't mean much since it can still be any of the other nodes that is having some congestion issue while you're waiting for a reply from nfohump.

You should do an unlimited number of pings for ~2-3 minutes and redirect it to a text file:

c:\Windows\System32>ping nfohump.com -t > c:\folder\ping.txt


Ultimately tracert and ping are the most basic tools to test a connection. They don't really tell you where the problem lies, that's something you have to perform further problem solving for to find out.

For instance, here's the result I copied from the text file that my ping command created and as you'll see the latency is rock stable with no spikes or interruptions. I added my tracert result as well and as you can see there are no spikes or issues anywhere. The server seems to be in the Netherlands while I am in Sweden. I can say with 99.9999% (+0.0001%) certainty that it's not the server where nfohump is running that is the problem, it's somewhere between your (and the others) PC and nfohump.

As for "I can run other sites without problems", that depends entirely on the routing and which backbones sit between you and the target site. Without actually accessing your PC at your location I can't really do more. I may have some preconception but I have a feeling that internet in eastern Europe and certain other countries tend to be of lower quality/congested in order to save money. Btw, you're not surfing using Wifi are you?

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You do realize that internet in Eastern Europe is faster than in Western Europe right? What does "lower quality" mean anyway? Pretty sure that countries such as Romania, Bulgaria or the Baltic states have one of the fastest connections not only in Europe but in the world (lots of sources for that). If this website is using a CDN or a load-balancer with location filters maybe that could be the culprit.

UPDATE: I just got a slowness and fired up a ping + network trace. While the website is slow, even long pings return 100% success rate. The network trace shows nothing out of the ordinary except that certain JavaScripts take long time to load (50 seconds in total):
minmax.js
jquery.js
humpBB.js

and so on. I'm no developer so no idea why the scripts are so heavy. Once they are loaded, they are cached so maybe that's why the slowness goes away after a while, who knows... It will remain a mystery for now.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 19:47    Post subject:
Slow pings means there's an issue with the route between you and nfohump. I've done a few pings since I started writing this post and I'm still getting rock solid 28ms with no packet loss.

Only a handful of people seem to have issues with the site and are afaik predominantly from Eastern Europe (Bulgaria, Croatia, Russia) with Toni from Portugal also having issues as well as overseas (the Americas).

Conclusion? Something in the internet route from your computers to the site either have technical difficulties or congestion issues (or both).

I have no idea if the hump is hosted by a company using a CDN service or a load-balancer.

The ISP/Host is TNGNET.NL who in turn seems to use Global Layer (http://www.global-layer.com/).

If you wish to continue troubleshooting you'll have to use more advanced network tools.

It could also be misconfigured adapter/connection settings, browser settings, firewall settings etc. etc. etc. etc. or perhaps some local issues where you'd have to use a performance analyzer to find out what's going on.

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IbiGandin




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 20:45    Post subject:
The pings aren't slow, they're okay - this is exactly what's strange here (by long ping I meant using the parameter "-t" for the time being). I thought I was trying to help you, not the other way around? Very Happy I don't have an issue with this really, it's the only slow website for me (and for the rest of the people in this thread) and I can live without it really. I registered thinking it might go away but it didn't. One thing is certain, however, it's not a local issue when you have reports from all over the world (look again, there are also people from the Americas and West Europe, maybe it's just a coincidence that this site is popular among East Europeans). Anyway, hope this congestion gets resolved for you soon.
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M4trix




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 21:44    Post subject:
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2021 08:21    Post subject:
My problem seems to be gone as well in the last couple of months or so.

The Hump works as it should as of right now.

I don't know what the problem was, when I was having issues, I decided to check the ping, but everything was alright there.
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2021 09:17    Post subject:
Sometimes it would act as if it's 1996 and I'm on dial up with pages refusing to load fully but most of the time it works. Is this the hump coughing blood? Are the signs here?
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Areius




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2021 17:11    Post subject:
Still haven't had a single problem Poker Face

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Frant
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2021 18:07    Post subject:
IbiGandin wrote:
The pings aren't slow, they're okay - this is exactly what's strange here (by long ping I meant using the parameter "-t" for the time being). I thought I was trying to help you, not the other way around? Very Happy I don't have an issue with this really, it's the only slow website for me (and for the rest of the people in this thread) and I can live without it really. I registered thinking it might go away but it didn't. One thing is certain, however, it's not a local issue when you have reports from all over the world (look again, there are also people from the Americas and West Europe, maybe it's just a coincidence that this site is popular among East Europeans). Anyway, hope this congestion gets resolved for you soon.


I misunderstood what you meant with "long pings". Razz

So far I haven't seen any particular complaints recently from anyone in Western Europe. We've got Toni from southern Europe, Portugal.. and one american (there's also a colombian). Meanwhile the absolute majority have no issues.. Again, that means that the very few that have actual problems have an issue on their particular route to the server which is hosting nfohump.

If mrt has access to the server he could check out statistics and perhaps find out what's going on for those members if he's got access to site diagnostic tools. I sure don't have access to anything since I'm just a mod so I'm just going on my general knowledge and education about troubleshooting connection issues.

It's highly unlikely that the same people experiencing issues would be alone on nfohump when it's slow. Thus I can only base my ideas on logical conclusions based on very little real information, selecting the most likely scenarios why a few people are having issues.

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difm




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2021 12:11    Post subject:
The issue is more than strange. I get the occasional long loading times but what annoys me most is when the page is only partly loaded (refresh helps) or when I only get a blank page. I use new tab to open a thread in sub-forum and sometimes I get a blank page with only url visible on url bar. Before, pressing enter with url loaded the page properly (and read posts info was tracked with it) but now I have to reopen the the link and the read posts info is still "fresh" as before clicking it.

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2021 13:16    Post subject:
Yes, that is indeed very strange. On the surface it does suggest that there's something going on with the host but since it's a small minority that experience any of these issues it seems highly unlikely that the issue lies with at the endpoint.

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termcan




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 20:18    Post subject:


Wth is this pre 2000's shit man?
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skx7




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 20:24    Post subject:
block it with ublock and move on Mr. Green

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Frant
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2021 03:24    Post subject:
Lol, yeah, I blocked it years ago when it stopped working. It should DEFINITELY be removed by mrt or someone else with access to the actual site code.

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tonizito




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2021 14:27    Post subject:
Anyway, for quite a few weeks now the forum is back to normal. So it was either my ISP or something along the path that was fixed/routed through another path. Curious to see if it's the same for the other mens that were affected.

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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2021 14:57    Post subject:
Check your DNS. Usually when I start feeling slowness, I see that it's usually just latency due to the public DNS server I use acting up. Public DNS servers are important, but they are very busy, and sometimes even targets for DDoS attacks. On the other hand, if your ISP has a shitty DNS, you might find benefit in moving to a public DNS server.

See https://www.dnsperf.com/#!dns-resolvers
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tonizito




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2021 15:06    Post subject:
Made no difference back when I had issues with the site.
Tried google, cloudflare, my ISP's, openDNS, and it was the same or worse.

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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2021 16:40    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Anyway, for quite a few weeks now the forum is back to normal. So it was either my ISP or something along the path that was fixed/routed through another path. Curious to see if it's the same for the other mens that were affected.


Same here, had no problems for a few weeks now. The curious thing is that the occurrence of NFOHump slowness started to decline the day I got the second jab of covid vaccine. Coincidence ?! I don't think so

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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2021 19:57    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2021 07:28    Post subject:
Connection is a bit hit and miss at the moment. Site either reacts quickly or not at all.

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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2021 08:41    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Connection is a bit hit and miss at the moment. Site either reacts quickly or not at all.


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