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I'd go italian if I was rich.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Apr 2009 20:14 Post subject: |
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i prefer SUVs like my 2003 Range Rover =)
yes
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Apr 2009 21:32 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | I'd go italian if I was rich. |
Design-wise definitely. But God save us from Italian mechanics.
You know, what difference between heaven and hell is?
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In Heaven:
The cooks are French,
The policemen are English,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are Italian,
The bankers are Swiss.
In Hell:
The cooks are English,
The policemen are German,
The mechanics are French,
The lovers are Swiss,
The bankers are Italian. |
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| Frant wrote: | | I'd go italian if I was rich. |
While the italian lux cars are awesome...I'd go with a Martin or a lux German car if I had the coin |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 06:27 Post subject: |
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i'd go with a t-rex 
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 07:58 Post subject: |
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| Mr_Baggins wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | I'd go italian if I was rich. |
Design-wise definitely. But God save us from Italian mechanics.
You know, what difference between heaven and hell is?
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In Heaven:
The cooks are French,
The policemen are English,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are Italian,
The bankers are Swiss.
In Hell:
The cooks are English,
The policemen are German,
The mechanics are French,
The lovers are Swiss,
The bankers are Italian. |
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Gotta love that spoiler.
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deelix
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 11:43 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | | accent is one of them, pos car |
yeah same with sonata. Looots of errors.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 20:55 Post subject: |
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You pay more for insurance on that car than I earn in a month lol...
You realize that in 2 years time you will have paid more for insuring the car than it cost you to buy?
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 21:02 Post subject: |
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If I was rich like a mofo and got lots of insurance discount id go for a Lexus^^
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 21:24 Post subject: |
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| preed wrote: | You pay more for insurance on that car than I earn in a month lol...
You realize that in 2 years time you will have paid more for insuring the car than it cost you to buy? |
uhm he said insurance was $140/month ... car = $30K, insurance for 2 years = ~$3K ...
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 21:52 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Mortibus wrote: | | accent is one of them, pos car |
yeah same with sonata. Looots of errors. |
Anyone who has been keeping track of the industry the past 4-5 years knows that Hyundai has great quality now. Yes, the Accent back in the day was known to be a disposable car, but that was pre-2000. Hyundai has growing pains just like every other company out there. Toyota and Honda were just as shitty when they first came to the US, don't forget that. Realistically, Hyundai has corrected its quality problems and stepped up faster then Toyota and Honda did.
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | Have you not kept up with cars for a while LoL? 99% of cars come with traction control standard now a days. And since most cars use Drive by wire (junk) it makes it pretty simple to electronically cut throttle but more often then not I've found it to hinder safe driving in slippery conditions.
I dunno about that thing being a "Beast" but it's basically as fast as the 350Z's/G35's that have been out for the past 5-6 years. Damn man you should have gotten the 4 Cylinder turbo, cheaper/lighter and a ton more potential as demonstrated by tuners. Are those available yet?
Otherwise Hyundai's come a long way. First with the Genesis Sedan and now this which has gotten favorable reviews given the price. Although it will be a few years until it's refined enough to truly compare to the G37/Etc as it's still a little rough around the edges. |
I test drove both my Genesis Coupe and a G37. The G37 with the same nice interior features, brakes, etc was nearly 20 grand more all said and done. The Genesis coupe gets almost the exact same 1/4 times as the G37. Honestly, I see no reason to pay 15 grand extra for a car thats basically exactly the same.
As for why I didn't get the I4; I'm done with my modifying youth days. I don't have the time anymore to be fucking around with a car and tuning it. Sure, one you easily swap out the turbo for a larger one and change a few other things - But that will bring it to just around the same amount of power as the 3.8 V6 anyways, and the I4 Coupe isn't that much lighter. It's lighter by only like 100 pounds. I could take a big shit before I drive and loose that weight anyways. Not to mention I want the torque, feeling, and sound that the V6 has over the inline 4. The bottom line is that a 4 banger sounds like a 4 banger. It doesn't matter which car it's in. Also, my Track 3.8 Coupe cost me 30 grand. A track I4 coupe would have cost me 26 grand. The amount of money I would have to spend on modifications just to bring the I4 to the V6's performance level would send me well over 30 grand anyways.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 22:00 Post subject: |
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* have a french car... a 3.0 V6
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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If I had the money for a super car it would either be the DB9, or the TVR Sagaris. I'd probably end up buying both if I were ever rich. The DB9 as a daily driver, and the Sagaris as the fun car.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 22:03 Post subject: |
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I don't know why this thread has gone from Mcharts new purchase to a bunch of exotic cars?
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 22:12 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | deelix wrote: | | Mortibus wrote: | | accent is one of them, pos car |
yeah same with sonata. Looots of errors. |
Anyone who has been keeping track of the industry the past 4-5 years knows that Hyundai has great quality now. Yes, the Accent back in the day was known to be a disposable car, but that was pre-2000. Hyundai has growing pains just like every other company out there. Toyota and Honda were just as shitty when they first came to the US, don't forget that. Realistically, Hyundai has corrected its quality problems and stepped up faster then Toyota and Honda did. |
yeah, talking about the old mods. Anyway, I don't trust the American made Toyotas. Like the camrys. The real Japanese made camrys went out of production in 2004 (Avensis took over here, better looking, not that wide etc. a real seller here). Same with Galant, last japanese model made in 1997 or something. So people in europe that buy new mitsubishi sedans buy the Lancer evo-look-alike :\
What makes Japanese cars so reliable is the quality control. Its much stricter than in most other countries (was strictest by far earlier). But its been much better in Germany now lately. So the new Audis are pretty reliable. Anyway both Honda and Subaru have less errors than Toyotas now.
And hell even Kias are pretty reliable now lately, so its happened something to the quality checking in South Korea. But just some few years old Kia Sportage (suv) got insane amounts of error.
When thats said I don't know that much about the car marked in the US. Iv just seen very big differences in car tests in US and in Europe.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 22:19 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | deelix wrote: | | yeah same with sonata. Looots of errors. |
Anyone who has been keeping track of the industry the past 4-5 years knows that Hyundai has great quality now. Yes, the Accent back in the day was known to be a disposable car, but that was pre-2000. Hyundai has growing pains just like every other company out there. Toyota and Honda were just as shitty when they first came to the US, don't forget that. Realistically, Hyundai has corrected its quality problems and stepped up faster then Toyota and Honda did. |
yeah, talking about the old mods. Anyway, I don't trust the American made Toyotas. Like the camrys. The real Japanese made camrys went out of production in 2004 (Avensis took over here, better looking, not that wide etc. a real seller here). Same with Galant, last japanese model made in 1997 or something. So people in europe that buy new mitsubishi sedans buy the Lancer evo-look-alike :\
What makes Japanese cars so reliable is the quality control. Its much stricter than in most other countries (was strictest by far earlier). But its been much better in Germany now lately. So the new Audis are pretty reliable. Anyway both Honda and Subaru have less errors than Toyotas now.
And hell even Kias are pretty reliable now lately, so its happened something to the quality checking in South Korea. But just some few years old Kia Sportage (suv) got insane amounts of error.
When thats said I don't know that much about the car marked in the US. Iv just seen very big differences in car tests in US and in Europe. |
The reason why Kia's quality isn't crap anymore is because Hyundai bought them a few years ago. Kia's are basically lower-end Hyundai's now. Hyundai is trying to become the more upper-tier brand name, and Kia is basically replacing the market position it used to hold.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2009 22:38 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | deelix wrote: | | yeah same with sonata. Looots of errors. |
Anyone who has been keeping track of the industry the past 4-5 years knows that Hyundai has great quality now. Yes, the Accent back in the day was known to be a disposable car, but that was pre-2000. Hyundai has growing pains just like every other company out there. Toyota and Honda were just as shitty when they first came to the US, don't forget that. Realistically, Hyundai has corrected its quality problems and stepped up faster then Toyota and Honda did. |
yeah, talking about the old mods. Anyway, I don't trust the American made Toyotas. Like the camrys. The real Japanese made camrys went out of production in 2004 (Avensis took over here, better looking, not that wide etc. a real seller here). Same with Galant, last japanese model made in 1997 or something. So people in europe that buy new mitsubishi sedans buy the Lancer evo-look-alike :\
What makes Japanese cars so reliable is the quality control. Its much stricter than in most other countries (was strictest by far earlier). But its been much better in Germany now lately. So the new Audis are pretty reliable. Anyway both Honda and Subaru have less errors than Toyotas now.
And hell even Kias are pretty reliable now lately, so its happened something to the quality checking in South Korea. But just some few years old Kia Sportage (suv) got insane amounts of error.
When thats said I don't know that much about the car marked in the US. Iv just seen very big differences in car tests in US and in Europe. |
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 11:12 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | preed wrote: | You pay more for insurance on that car than I earn in a month lol...
You realize that in 2 years time you will have paid more for insuring the car than it cost you to buy? |
uhm he said insurance was $140/month ... car = $30K, insurance for 2 years = ~$3K ... |
Yea my bad.. My feverish brain added a 0 there hehe.. I realized after I posted but couldnt be arsed to edit since I dont wanna spend much time at the comp atm since both my eyes are also inflammated..
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 11:53 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | deelix wrote: | | Mchart wrote: |
Anyone who has been keeping track of the industry the past 4-5 years knows that Hyundai has great quality now. Yes, the Accent back in the day was known to be a disposable car, but that was pre-2000. Hyundai has growing pains just like every other company out there. Toyota and Honda were just as shitty when they first came to the US, don't forget that. Realistically, Hyundai has corrected its quality problems and stepped up faster then Toyota and Honda did. |
yeah, talking about the old mods. Anyway, I don't trust the American made Toyotas. Like the camrys. The real Japanese made camrys went out of production in 2004 (Avensis took over here, better looking, not that wide etc. a real seller here). Same with Galant, last japanese model made in 1997 or something. So people in europe that buy new mitsubishi sedans buy the Lancer evo-look-alike :\
What makes Japanese cars so reliable is the quality control. Its much stricter than in most other countries (was strictest by far earlier). But its been much better in Germany now lately. So the new Audis are pretty reliable. Anyway both Honda and Subaru have less errors than Toyotas now.
And hell even Kias are pretty reliable now lately, so its happened something to the quality checking in South Korea. But just some few years old Kia Sportage (suv) got insane amounts of error.
When thats said I don't know that much about the car marked in the US. Iv just seen very big differences in car tests in US and in Europe. |
You have no idea what you're talking about. |
eh... yes I do  Feel free to correct me. But then again do, instead of coming with such useless comments.
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I really don't feel like typing out a response long enough to correct all the misinformation you just spewed which 90% is personal opinion not fact. You seem to ignore the automated process involving a assembly line with little to NO human interaction for the vast majority of Japanese manufacturers fleet as well as the fact that the US is Toyota/Lexus biggest market but I'll stop there.
Most of lingering issues with European cars has nothing to do with quality control but rather engineering mistakes when at the chalk board/cost cutting measures. Mercedes has learned a lot from this in the past 5 years as they've returned to good engineering vs cutting corners which is reflected by the price increase across the board.
Anyway the current Generation Camry has sold like hot cakes and is extremely successful internationally, even the Hybrid model. The only issue the car had was during it's initial production year (2007) with the automatic transmissions but Toyota addressed it pretty quickly with a revised tranny the following year.
Believe me I know, my family owns a Japanese/Euro Junkyard and I'm around these cars 24/7.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 18:12 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | I really don't feel like typing out a response long enough to correct all the misinformation you just spewed which 90% is personal opinion not fact. You seem to ignore the automated process involving a assembly line with little to NO human interaction for the vast majority of Japanese manufacturers fleet as well as the fact that the US is Toyota/Lexus biggest market but I'll stop there.
Most of lingering issues with European cars has nothing to do with quality control but rather engineering mistakes when at the chalk board/cost cutting measures. Mercedes has learned a lot from this in the past 5 years as they've returned to good engineering vs cutting corners which is reflected by the price increase across the board.
Anyway the current Generation Camry has sold like hot cakes and is extremely successful internationally, even the Hybrid model. The only issue the car had was during it's initial production year (2007) with the automatic transmissions but Toyota addressed it pretty quickly with a revised tranny the following year.
Believe me I know, my family owns a Japanese/Euro Junkyard and I'm around these cars 24/7. |
Not bad, dunno if what you say about German cars are right tho. Anyway, im 20, and ur like 40 or something. /blames I know about the 2007 camry. thats what ppl get for choosing automatic. Camry are mostly sold in Asia and America afaik. I can only talk for Norway, Sweden and Denmark tho. Not seen a camry newer than 2004 there. Avensis on the other hand, every 10th car or something  It might be right that the American made "jap" cars are can be just as reliable, its of course something I don't know other than what I read/see. But find it kinda strange when I see American car reviews they say if you choose the european version you get japanese reliability. It was actually a review of 2008 or 2009 corolla if I remember right. The American version was more plastic and had better space. Anyway, I know lots of japanese cars come from other places than japan. England and Czech Republic for example. Production in 6-7 different countries afaik.
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well if were talking rich fuckers here anyways, English cars are the way to go. Astin Martin, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc (although Bentley is now owned by german VW)
no style what so ever.. looks like a toy race car.
