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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:09    Post subject:
Dawn Of War 2 is listed as "Not yet released" on steam. (I'm in Europe if it matters)
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:09    Post subject:
Is this how the game is supposed to look with ultra textures?


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:13    Post subject:
looks shitty




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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:14    Post subject:
I don't know how you enabled it but JPG compression aside that's pretty much how the game looks for me. (With even smaller objects like crates and such being very detailed, although probably not a big step from high texture quality.)

Normal maps and however they calculate specular maps might make things a tad shiny (Boltgun belt and the metallic colors in the army painter for example.) but it's not that bad.

EDIT: Was planning on showing a comparison via the army painter but I couldn't notice the difference so I switched texture quality to low and still didn't see any changes, seems that it and the main menu uses it's own preset.


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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:15    Post subject:
i have a question why does this game say i can't use SOFT PARTICLES ??? i get the Ultra stuff gfx with 1gig of ram but , what kind of system does it needs to have those soft particles ... or is it a Vista DX10 feature
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:19    Post subject:
What's your video card, far as I know the game only uses DX9
(Local.ini in the Documents and Settings folder for XP or User folder for Vista.)

EDIT: Can also check the "Drivers" folder in the main game folder and the two text files there to see what you graphics hardware is ranked as for the game.
(For ATI only the 3000 and 4000 serie is rank highest whereas for NVIDIA it's the 280 and 260.)

EDIT: File has comments that specific drivers causes problems for NV users, might be the problem here.
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:23    Post subject:
9600gt 1gig ... looks like i have to force them with editing configuration.lua

edit: yeah your right its a driver issue ... those bastards force me to install new drivers
Quote:
; have problems on this cards with softparticles on any driver build less than this one
allowSoftParticlesDriverProduct 0x0006
allowSoftParticlesDriverVersion 0x000E
allowSoftParticlesDriverSubversion 0x000B
allowSoftParticlesDriverBuild 0x1F7C


Laughing just edited few lines and have those without any installation hahahaha


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:26    Post subject:
I updated my post with some new info, now that I know your card I see that my assumption was correct.

Code:

; geforce 9xMed (9600):
begin device 0x0610 0x0622
   useHDRRendering 1
   perflevel 3
   
   ; have problems on this cards with softparticles on any driver build less than this one
    allowSoftParticlesDriverProduct      0x0006
   allowSoftParticlesDriverVersion       0x000E
   allowSoftParticlesDriverSubversion  0x000B
   allowSoftParticlesDriverBuild      0x1F7C
end

; gefore  9xHigh(9800):
begin device 0x0604 0x0612
   useHDRRendering 1
   perflevel 3

   ; have problems on this cards with softparticles on any driver build less than this one
    allowSoftParticlesDriverProduct      0x0006
   allowSoftParticlesDriverVersion       0x000E
   allowSoftParticlesDriverSubversion  0x000B
   allowSoftParticlesDriverBuild      0x1F7C
end


As you can see the "perflevel 3" value means that the card supports all features but that comment shows that soft particles are disabled with a particular driver revision, unsure how to read those hex values though.

This comment is actually repeated on all cards aside from the 260 and 280 for some reason.

EDIT: There's two possibilities here though, one is that only "that" particular driver build referenced via those hex codes allow soft-particles to be enabled and the other (And more likely.) is that all drivers that are also newer or rather have a higher build and version number also allows soft particles to be enabled.

Things might be further complicated if the game only detects drivers up to what was available when the game was compiled for manufacturing but I don't think that's the case.


EDIT: Seems you solved it by editing the file, didn't think about that but it's one solution to it. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:34    Post subject:
this kinda remembers me a game named TIMESHIFT when you had to install new drivers to be able to run it but you could reg edit the ini file to be able to play it just fine with the old ones
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noxxle




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:43    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
It's been on Steam for a couple of days now.


I realize the beta has been on steam. Just because beta players can play online doesn't necessarily mean the retail players can also login. However in this case, it appears so.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:48    Post subject:
How can I insert the serial? It never asked for one...
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:53    Post subject:
Because you already have Live installed and "activated" with a key.
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SuTuRa




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:56    Post subject:
But it says that I have an invaild key... wasn´t it supposed to go online with the club key?

I connect without problem in gta4 and fallout3
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 19:59    Post subject:
How can it say that if you didn't entered the cd key ? Something's not right.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 20:00    Post subject:
This is what happened to me with the "no installer" version...

The Wicked one.
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SuTuRa




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 20:03    Post subject:
I´m using the wicked one too...

When I started the game it just entered to my live profile normally, but it does not allow to go online cuz the key is invalid Confused
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 20:03    Post subject:
All you do is click the orange LIVE button and if you have a account you should be signed in.

This will fail with a invalid serial as one was never entered for this game so just re-enter it.

If you're already signed on with a offline account you'll need to sign in with all online features to get this prompt, offline mode doesn't use a key.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 20:14    Post subject:
It´s working, it finally asked for a serial Wink

just another question, where do I put the -disable32bitcheck command using the loader?
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 20:35    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
Is this how the game is supposed to look with ultra textures?

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8 bit shadows

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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 21:07    Post subject:
so this is the press release?
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 21:11    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:
so this is the press release?
DAMN !

Who told you that?

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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 21:41    Post subject:
Haven't tried to install it that way...
But yeah, it's a truth then. Anyway, it's working fine and i'm going to buy a disc when it's out, 'cause i want full support for this one, and they usually make a lot of patches.

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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 22:21    Post subject:
So it's a review copy, full-ish but not quite the final version.
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 22:23    Post subject:
But i do enjoy the campaign Smile
Anyway, the first final build will be the retail game+day0 patch.

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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 22:36    Post subject:
SuTuRa wrote:
It´s working, it finally asked for a serial Wink

just another question, where do I put the -disable32bitcheck command using the loader?


Anyone?
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 22:41    Post subject:
That line would be only available after day0 patch as i've got it.

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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 23:00    Post subject:
Very poor mission design. Always jumping between already visited maps. Caldaris maps 1,2,3 > Typhoon maps 4,5 > Caldaris map 1 again > typhoon map 5 > Caldaris map x and so on and on.
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damador.




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 23:01    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:


tutorial how to ? ?Smile
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Feb 2009 23:42    Post subject:
Wait, so there is ONLY a space marine campaign? I can't seem to select any other race under Campaign. If so, this is very disappointing to say the least. What happened to the dynamic choose your mission campaign that EVERY race had in the original? Sad

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