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Acer




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 10:50    Post subject: Problem sleeping
Been having this problem for over a year now, I just cant seem to get enough sleep. I go to bed around 11.00 pm at night, usually cant sleep until 00.00 or 01.00. Then for the rest of the week I'm like a zombie, walking around work feeling half-dead.
Its become such a pain im getting depressed, dont have the energy to do anything after work. Its really a bitch.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 10:51    Post subject:
-Food
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-Exercise
-Lovin'

Are the usual suspects.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 11:42    Post subject:
Fucked up thing is even if I try and catch up by sleeping for an hour after work I still feel like a zombie the next day. Just cant get up at around 07:00 am like I used to.
During my teenage years I could sleep for about 7-8 hours and still feel like a million bucks, now in my late 20's my sleeping pattern is starting to resemble that of an old 80 year old Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 11:58    Post subject:
Lots of people have on this board have problems sleeping. You aren't the only one. Me too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 12:01    Post subject:
I usually can't sleep after soccer. Last Friday I got home @ 11.30pm and I was awake tossing in bed until 6am. And the worst thing is that I'm really tired after soccer...

If it really bugs you, go see a doc. But I usually go to sleep around 1am, and even if I sleep to 9-10 I still feel like zombie. Thankfully there is nothing caffeine can't fix Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 12:55    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Lots of people have on this board have problems sleeping. You aren't the only one. Me too.


Word. I had it for a long time, insomnia.

I use Clipper sleep easy cinamon tea before i go to bed. Puts you out like a baby Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 13:11    Post subject:
sometimes i drink some whiskey an hour before bed, does the trick. Still waking early is a biatch.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 13:36    Post subject:
just try to drastically change your sleeping rhytm...

Go to bed @ 9-10 and you will wake up at the regular hour and feel lots better. Then after a while you go to bed earlier and wake earlier... Worked for me.

I used to go to bed @ 1-2am and fall asleep @ 4am or so and then go to work @ 8-9... Killing me.

Now i go to bed @ 10, i fall asleep and i wake up with no prob @7-8. I do some household chores, go to work early and be back earlier...
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 14:43    Post subject:
Yeah, as spankie said, go to bed earlier.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 15:14    Post subject:
Yeah I can go to bed at 19.00 pm, that doesent mean Ill be able to sleep until 00:00 anyway. Some people, like my ex-gf are able to sleep almost instantly but me I tend to roll around for quite some time before finally falling alseep. My father also has this problem while my mom and brothers are able to just go almost instantly.

The main problem is even if I get used to sleeping early come weekends I usually sleep alot later, then sunday night its the same problem all over again. And I wont ever sleep early on friday and saturday, I'd rather die than do that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 15:54    Post subject:
yes i know, but this is a problem that will become bigger and bigger...

you wake up tired, go to bed later because you cannot sleep, wake up tired and cannot sleep


go to bed earlier and you might still be awake for 2-3h, but at least you will be sleeping on a decent hour. You will get better sleep, less stress etc and you will automatically sleep better and faster than before.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 17:48    Post subject:
Then there's the fact that only around 30% of us are morning persons.. the rest of us will feel like crap if we get up too early no matter what we do. The circadian rhythm is a bitch.
Thank jebus for melatonin. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 19:52    Post subject:
yeah, for me it doesn't matter if I go to sleep at 10pm or 3am, if I get up too early I feel like shit either way. This is why I don't start work until 10am ... that gives me at least untill 9 or 9:15 to get up Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 19:55    Post subject:
You can choose when you'll start working? What do you do?


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 19:58    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
You can choose when you'll start working? What do you do?


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My manager cares more about productivity than stupid crap like needing to be at my desk for 9am Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 21:59    Post subject:
Read a book when you go to bed. Works for me.

Tho, if the book is good, your screwed, since you read all night.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Feb 2009 22:24    Post subject:
Going to bed between 11 and 12 is perfect for me, sleep like a baby. But if I try to fall asleep later than that, I can't until 2-3 am.
I go to school at 7:30 and usually make up for it there. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 00:17    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
You can choose when you'll start working? What do you do?


Statistical Analyst @ http://secure.cihi.ca/cihiweb/splash.html

My manager cares more about productivity than stupid crap like needing to be at my desk for 9am Smile


Wow, that's great... altho I could never work with statistics, I had some bad experience with it Very Happy


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 01:00    Post subject: Re: Problem sleeping
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Been having this problem for over a year now, I just cant seem to get enough sleep. I go to bed around 11.00 pm at night, usually cant sleep until 00.00 or 01.00. Then for the rest of the week I'm like a zombie, walking around work feeling half-dead.
Its become such a pain im getting depressed, dont have the energy to do anything after work. Its really a bitch.


Something is bothering you. Whether its conscious or subconscious, something is bothering you.

I have a few questions for you. Cause as some people on here know, I dealt with insomnia and like 2 hours of sleep a day for a good year.

1. Anything traumatic happen recently? (death of family member/someone close, loss of job etc)
2. Does your mind race when you try and go to sleep?
3. Do you constantly move your legs or toss and turn?

If yes to any of those, go to the doctor. The Doc will give you anxiety pills that will take the edge off and allow you to relax and fall asleep. You may need them only for a month or maybe longer until you resolve the problem, but trust me, it helps man. Cause i've tried EVERY home remedy and nothing works.

Or, one thing you can try, if you have a tv in your room and a dvd player (tivo/dvr is better) put on a movie you've seen tons of times and then roll over and listen to it but don't think about it. Think about something that makes you happy or peaceful and u should fall asleep in 30 mins or so. Maybe a lil longer.
And if you haven't had sex for a long time, before bed, jerk off and then do what I just mentioned. Cause jerking off releases tons of endorphin's that will relax you and help you sleep (hence the reason men like to sleep after sex..but the same applies to women).

Or another thing you can try is find a game you have, that you've beat tons of times, use codes/a trainer so you can't die, have unlim money and other stuff and just play it.
Cause I usually run Mass Effect an hour or 2 before bed cause it relaxes me and by the time I want to sleep, Im relaxed, I throw on a Star Trek movie (seen em all 100 times...I have a DVR so I dont have to put in a dvd or anything), set the tv to go off in 3 hours, roll over and fall asleep.

But if I'm with my girl, then it's different. I just lay against her or she on or against me and I feel her breathing rhythm on my chest, close my eyes, slowly and gently run my hands over her back or her chest/front side of her body and I'm asleep in 20 mins....she falls asleep in like 5 tho. Hate that lol

If you wanna talk about sleeping stuff, pm cause I know LOTS about it. And I think some members here can attest to that.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 08:29    Post subject:
Reading books has the opposite effect on me, I usually get way to excited after reading which then fucks up my sleep even more.
Last night I went to bed at 10.00 pm, I tossed and turned for about an hour before finally sleeping so thats a plus. Though it was probably cause of being fatigued at not sleeping enough during the week. I woke an hour earlier and couldnt go back to sleep until the alarm clock "woke" me up.

Thnx for your advices Syco, though jerking of before bed is a big no no for me and so is playing games.
I recently broke up with my girl but like I said its been like this long before I met her. Anxiety pills might be an idea but I hate taking pills and Swedish doctors are usually reluctant to just shove pills down their patients throuts. But I'm gonna book an appointment and see what happens.

1. nothing traumatic
2. Oh god yes, sometimes its like I have a few different thoughts going on at the same time.
3. again very much so, I'm wrestling the covers almost.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 18:49    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Reading books has the opposite effect on me, I usually get way to excited after reading which then fucks up my sleep even more.
Last night I went to bed at 10.00 pm, I tossed and turned for about an hour before finally sleeping so thats a plus. Though it was probably cause of being fatigued at not sleeping enough during the week. I woke an hour earlier and couldnt go back to sleep until the alarm clock "woke" me up.

Thnx for your advices Syco, though jerking of before bed is a big no no for me and so is playing games.
I recently broke up with my girl but like I said its been like this long before I met her. Anxiety pills might be an idea but I hate taking pills and Swedish doctors are usually reluctant to just shove pills down their patients throuts. But I'm gonna book an appointment and see what happens.

1. nothing traumatic
2. Oh god yes, sometimes its like I have a few different thoughts going on at the same time.
3. again very much so, I'm wrestling the covers almost.


Ok cool. Cause it sounds to me like you have anxiety. And depending on how bad it is, you may get very mild stuff or heavy duty stuff. Prolly mild tho.

Good Luck Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 19:07    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Reading books has the opposite effect on me, I usually get way to excited after reading which then fucks up my sleep even more.

next time try reading something other than playboy
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 19:21    Post subject:
@ Syco, did you suffer any side affects of taking anti-anxiety pills? I dont wanna take something that'll remove all my sexual appetite etc
Yeah I do have anxiety stemming from years of low self esteem caused by a terrible stutter. I'm clear of my fears regarding speaking but the feelings are deeply rooted. Its a bitch but I will keep battleing it, keep growing.

@ ihzr, like I said no jerking of before bed so nope I dont read playboy. And btw im more of a hustler man Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 21:48    Post subject:
Has someone already suggested melatonin? It's especially effective for anxiety related sleep disorders as it bypasses the serotonin second messenger cascade.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2009 23:15    Post subject:
Yeah I have trouble sleeping as well lately probably because my back hurts and I just can't get any shut eye. That and the fact I told this girl I will be her lover and her boyfriend saw the sms and now he is calling me at midnight and leaving threatening messages.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 01:09    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
@ Syco, did you suffer any side affects of taking anti-anxiety pills? I dont wanna take something that'll remove all my sexual appetite etc
Yeah I do have anxiety stemming from years of low self esteem caused by a terrible stutter. I'm clear of my fears regarding speaking but the feelings are deeply rooted. Its a bitch but I will keep battleing it, keep growing.

@ ihzr, like I said no jerking of before bed so nope I dont read playboy. And btw im more of a hustler man Wink


Naw man. No side affects at all. Well, they may make you tired but thats about it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 01:31    Post subject: Re: Problem sleeping
Acer wrote:
Been having this problem for over a year now, I just cant seem to get enough sleep. I go to bed around 11.00 pm at night, usually cant sleep until 00.00 or 01.00. Then for the rest of the week I'm like a zombie, walking around work feeling half-dead.
Its become such a pain im getting depressed, dont have the energy to do anything after work. Its really a bitch.


Eat Oatmeal before you go to bet, puts you out like a light.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 02:01    Post subject:
I go to bed at 3/4 am and wake up at 7 Sad
Im planning on trying melatonin.Trying to track it down. Laughing

Sometimes nothing helps. Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 03:06    Post subject: Re: Problem sleeping
ChinUp wrote:
Acer wrote:
Been having this problem for over a year now, I just cant seem to get enough sleep. I go to bed around 11.00 pm at night, usually cant sleep until 00.00 or 01.00. Then for the rest of the week I'm like a zombie, walking around work feeling half-dead.
Its become such a pain im getting depressed, dont have the energy to do anything after work. Its really a bitch.


Eat Oatmeal before you go to bet, puts you out like a light.


Yeah acer, that also works if your sleeping problem isnt that bad. I do it sometimes. Chin told me about it a while back and it does work.

Or like AM mentioned, melatonin is good. You can find it in turkey. Buy some turkey (like lunch meat stuff0 from your local deli, warm it up (has to be warm) and eat it 30 mins before you lay down to sleep. My doctor told me this and I do it almost every night.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009 03:07    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
I go to bed at 3/4 am and wake up at 7 Sad
Im planning on trying melatonin.Trying to track it down. Laughing

Sometimes nothing helps. Sad


Melatonin is in turkey like I said. Just buy some turkey, warm it up, eat it before bed and it should help.


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