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| madmax17 wrote: | | No you need to do some serious thinking because your theory is flawed, give me one peace of evidence that disproves my Pink Unicorn theory, can you prove that he doesn't exist and that he didn't made all life as we know it? |
I don't have to, or need to do ANYTHING you ask.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 18:13 Post subject: |
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there can be anything in this existence
maybe our universe is in some molecule, maybe theres a red girl with 4 huge dicks growing on her chest that controls indirectly the Earth, maybe that..
by not believing in god i mean that dont believe it, dont live by the bible. maybe theres some higher power out there, but why bother your mind with it? obviously all the testaments and shit were written by our impressive people:p so dont live according to some "god's paragraphs" - something that's so abstractive to our mind. it's something we didn't bother with living more happily and evolve better, i guess
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| Glottis wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: | | No you need to do some serious thinking because your theory is flawed, give me one peace of evidence that disproves my Pink Unicorn theory, can you prove that he doesn't exist and that he didn't made all life as we know it? |
I don't have to, or need to do ANYTHING you ask. |
So you admit he does exist. |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 20:15 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: | | No you need to do some serious thinking because your theory is flawed, give me one peace of evidence that disproves my Pink Unicorn theory, can you prove that he doesn't exist and that he didn't made all life as we know it? |
I don't have to, or need to do ANYTHING you ask. |
You claim that we try to act as smart atheists, but the truth is that people like you are so stupid and close minded that you really need to turn into this fairy tales and become experts at something, if you were able to grasp within that undeveloped brain of yours the evidence that we are trying to show you, you wouldn't be here looking more stupid than you really are.
I was waiting for someone like you to kidnap this thread, some 10 posts before you appeared I made a detailed post why we "hated" religious people. and I clearly shown, that science gives facts and the mechanisms on how everything work, and all people like you care is meaning, "why this?" "why that?", there is no why, there is only how.
The universe doesn't have meaning or purpose, we do!, we in our daily lives and interaction with each others develop the need for meaning in certain circumstances, but that is only a human thing.
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As a psychology student who wants to go for a master in cognitive neuropsychology, I talk to quite a few full-fledged doctors and masters in different disciplines, mostly in (medical)biology, or the biological side of psychology. So far I haven't met any who believe in a higher being. I don't know how representative that is, but take from that what you will.
I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages.
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Don't forget the Teapot in orbit around the sun 
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| Praetori wrote: | As a psychology student who wants to go for a master in cognitive neuropsychology, I talk to quite a few full-fledged doctors and masters in different disciplines, mostly in (medical)biology, or the biological side of psychology. So far I haven't met any who believe in a higher being. I don't know how representative that is, but take from that what you will.
I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
damn, you should be a lucky person, I unfortunately have to face people pretty much like Glottis there on a daily basis, everytime I pass by them they just mention to each other's hear "-isn't that the atheist?", "-yes yes, but you know what, I'm so sorry for him"
And then they give me this look of pitty like I was going to burn in hell.
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | Praetori wrote: | As a psychology student who wants to go for a master in cognitive neuropsychology, I talk to quite a few full-fledged doctors and masters in different disciplines, mostly in (medical)biology, or the biological side of psychology. So far I haven't met any who believe in a higher being. I don't know how representative that is, but take from that what you will.
I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
damn, you should be a lucky person, I unfortunately have to face people pretty much like Glottis there on a daily basis, everytime I pass by them they just mention to each other's hear "-isn't that the atheist?", "-yes yes, but you know what, I'm so sorry for him"
And then they give me this look of pitty like I was going to burn in hell. |
Well, my girlfriend is Christian and her parents are very Christian. We are very respectful of each others views however, and though they have tried to convert me numerous times and we have tons of discussions and debates that always stay respectful, I have made it clear that I will not try to convert them towards atheism/darwinism as long as they leave my views for what they are.
We get along great, and I keep learning valuable insights that I would have otherwise not have. Sure, my girlfriends friends (who are all christian too) often make jokes when I'm around about me 'burning in hell' (and they really do mean it as a joke), I can't think of nicer people. I have my views on religion (or faith in their case, they dislike organised religion), in that I feel it is illogical to believe in something without any proof. But as long as you respect each other and agree to disagree, there never really is a problem.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 20:37 Post subject: |
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I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
Eh it's Pink Unicorn not Spaghetti Monster you clearly made a mistake there. Don't make me go on a crusade! |
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| Praetori wrote: | | I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
You have to be in fashion, this spring it's cool to believe in pink unicorn!! 
Btw, two days ago, me and my colleagues were having lunch, and as a part of debate came croatian handball coach, who on last world championship, on last attack called the team and said sth like: God dammit, we have to be strong, don't loose the ball... etc. Anyhow my colleague said that but didn't say the goddamn it part, and I said: what? goddamn it?(out loud) He looked at me and said: I don't want to say that, that's rude!
I said: why? I think it's ruder when you say motherfucker or sth like this because your mother is real and god isn't.
And boy, what I heard (even as I debated that it's pointless to believe in fairy tales) made me want to pick up a fork and stab him in the eye... And that came from a person who could be scientist in future!!(altho he mentioned he would like to work in some bank, because of money)
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| madmax17 wrote: | | Praetori wrote: |
I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
Eh it's Pink Unicorn not Spaghetti Monster you clearly made a mistake there. Don't make me go on a crusade! |
An INVISIBLE Pink Unicorn was it not . |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: | | No you need to do some serious thinking because your theory is flawed, give me one peace of evidence that disproves my Pink Unicorn theory, can you prove that he doesn't exist and that he didn't made all life as we know it? |
I don't have to, or need to do ANYTHING you ask. |
You claim that we try to act as smart atheists, but the truth is that people like you are so stupid and close minded that you really need to turn into this fairy tales and become experts at something, if you were able to grasp within that undeveloped brain of yours the evidence that we are trying to show you, you wouldn't be here looking more stupid than you really are.
I was waiting for someone like you to kidnap this thread, some 10 posts before you appeared I made a detailed post why we "hated" religious people. and I clearly shown, that science gives facts and the mechanisms on how everything work, and all people like you care is meaning, "why this?" "why that?", there is no why, there is only how.
The universe doesn't have meaning or purpose, we do!, we in our daily lives and interaction with each others develop the need for meaning in certain circumstances, but that is only a human thing. |
Yes, I bow before your supreme opinion and beliefs of complete truth which you can't express without name calling and insulting. These people who you deal with feel sorry for you for a reason, and it's not because you are atheist.
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: | | Praetori wrote: |
I myself obviously believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages. |
Eh it's Pink Unicorn not Spaghetti Monster you clearly made a mistake there. Don't make me go on a crusade! |
An INVISIBLE Pink Unicorn was it not . |
Sure, if you care what's the color of a creature you will never see because it's invisible not because it's not there  |
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| Glottis wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | | Glottis wrote: |
I don't have to, or need to do ANYTHING you ask. |
You claim that we try to act as smart atheists, but the truth is that people like you are so stupid and close minded that you really need to turn into this fairy tales and become experts at something, if you were able to grasp within that undeveloped brain of yours the evidence that we are trying to show you, you wouldn't be here looking more stupid than you really are.
I was waiting for someone like you to kidnap this thread, some 10 posts before you appeared I made a detailed post why we "hated" religious people. and I clearly shown, that science gives facts and the mechanisms on how everything work, and all people like you care is meaning, "why this?" "why that?", there is no why, there is only how.
The universe doesn't have meaning or purpose, we do!, we in our daily lives and interaction with each others develop the need for meaning in certain circumstances, but that is only a human thing. |
Yes, I bow before your supreme opinion and beliefs of complete truth which you can't express without name calling and insulting. These people who you deal with feel sorry for you for a reason, and it's not because you are atheist. |
Opinion?
If you define plausible and logical reasoning and science itself as opinion and not fact, then, responding to you is just pointless, I am making an argument here, you are only defending yourself and using sarcasm, instead of that, and if you believe there's some hidden logic behind what you believe and claim, why don't you use that as argument instead of the ridiculous figure you're making out of yourself.
Yes I'm offending, not you in specific, but everyone who just thinks they are above other people when they show the religion card, and that most people go well with the idea of offending a communist, a fascist, a dictator, but when it comes to religious people, you can't say anything because everyone is free to believe in what they believe, this is only the reverse of the coin that people like you has given to the rest of the world, you impose everyday your ridiculous fairy tale to children, use it as a political weapon, kill in name of it, and force it upon everyone who's depressed or in a crisis of identity, so why should I be blamed for being aggressive against people who are clearly in a state of denial and damaging humanity as a whole in the process?
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Depends on what the scientist is calling God. if the scientist calls a make believe overlord who created everything God then that's certainly not a logical or even rational belief. On the other hand if the scientist called say a particle God then that would be perfectly logical & rational.
The notion that one must believe what the Christin church preach God to be & being religious should entail is the stuff of church monkeys. The rest of us don't have to associate with the worshiper cults spin on religion & God.
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: |
You claim that we try to act as smart atheists, but the truth is that people like you are so stupid and close minded that you really need to turn into this fairy tales and become experts at something, if you were able to grasp within that undeveloped brain of yours the evidence that we are trying to show you, you wouldn't be here looking more stupid than you really are.
I was waiting for someone like you to kidnap this thread, some 10 posts before you appeared I made a detailed post why we "hated" religious people. and I clearly shown, that science gives facts and the mechanisms on how everything work, and all people like you care is meaning, "why this?" "why that?", there is no why, there is only how.
The universe doesn't have meaning or purpose, we do!, we in our daily lives and interaction with each others develop the need for meaning in certain circumstances, but that is only a human thing. |
Yes, I bow before your supreme opinion and beliefs of complete truth which you can't express without name calling and insulting. These people who you deal with feel sorry for you for a reason, and it's not because you are atheist. |
Opinion?
If you define plausible and logical reasoning and science itself as opinion and not fact, then, responding to you is just pointless, I am making an argument here, you are only defending yourself and using sarcasm, instead of that, and if you believe there's some hidden logic behind what you believe and claim, why don't you use that as argument instead of the ridiculous figure you're making out of yourself.
Yes I'm offending, not you in specific, but everyone who just thinks they are above other people when they show the religion card, and that most people go well with the idea of offending a communist, a fascist, a dictator, but when it comes to religious people, you can't say anything because everyone is free to believe in what they believe, this is only the reverse of the coin that people like you has given to the rest of the world, you impose everyday your ridiculous fairy tale to children, use it as a political weapon, kill in name of it, and force it upon everyone who's depressed or in a crisis of identity, so why should I be blamed for being aggressive against people who are clearly in a state of denial and damaging humanity as a whole in the process? |
Instead of thinking for pathetic reasons to insult other people on this forum (which is against the rules btw) learn to read. I SAID I'M NOT RELIGIOUS.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2009 01:31 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | | Glottis wrote: |
Yes, I bow before your supreme opinion and beliefs of complete truth which you can't express without name calling and insulting. These people who you deal with feel sorry for you for a reason, and it's not because you are atheist. |
Opinion?
If you define plausible and logical reasoning and science itself as opinion and not fact, then, responding to you is just pointless, I am making an argument here, you are only defending yourself and using sarcasm, instead of that, and if you believe there's some hidden logic behind what you believe and claim, why don't you use that as argument instead of the ridiculous figure you're making out of yourself.
Yes I'm offending, not you in specific, but everyone who just thinks they are above other people when they show the religion card, and that most people go well with the idea of offending a communist, a fascist, a dictator, but when it comes to religious people, you can't say anything because everyone is free to believe in what they believe, this is only the reverse of the coin that people like you has given to the rest of the world, you impose everyday your ridiculous fairy tale to children, use it as a political weapon, kill in name of it, and force it upon everyone who's depressed or in a crisis of identity, so why should I be blamed for being aggressive against people who are clearly in a state of denial and damaging humanity as a whole in the process? |
Instead of thinking for pathetic reasons to insult other people on this forum (which is against the rules btw) learn to read. I SAID I'M NOT RELIGIOUS. |
If you're not religious, you sure act like one...
If there is something I never do is bashing people, contrary to many others, I honestly actively live my life by the fact that we are all equal and should be addressed in the same manner, but everyone has it's limits, and there is some arguments that just drive me mad, and so far, you've been doing nothing more than defending yourself (instead of defending your arguments with reasonable reply's), questioning everything that is said in an arrogant manner and completely ignoring previous arguments that have been made by me and others in this thread.
And I would like to know what do you actually mean with pathetic reasons, didn't followed that one...?
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: |
Opinion?
If you define plausible and logical reasoning and science itself as opinion and not fact, then, responding to you is just pointless, I am making an argument here, you are only defending yourself and using sarcasm, instead of that, and if you believe there's some hidden logic behind what you believe and claim, why don't you use that as argument instead of the ridiculous figure you're making out of yourself.
Yes I'm offending, not you in specific, but everyone who just thinks they are above other people when they show the religion card, and that most people go well with the idea of offending a communist, a fascist, a dictator, but when it comes to religious people, you can't say anything because everyone is free to believe in what they believe, this is only the reverse of the coin that people like you has given to the rest of the world, you impose everyday your ridiculous fairy tale to children, use it as a political weapon, kill in name of it, and force it upon everyone who's depressed or in a crisis of identity, so why should I be blamed for being aggressive against people who are clearly in a state of denial and damaging humanity as a whole in the process? |
Instead of thinking for pathetic reasons to insult other people on this forum (which is against the rules btw) learn to read. I SAID I'M NOT RELIGIOUS. |
If you're not religious, you sure act like one...
If there is something I never do is bashing people, contrary to many others, I honestly actively live my life by the fact that we are all equal and should be addressed in the same manner, but everyone has it's limits, and there is some arguments that just drive me mad, and so far, you've been doing nothing more than defending yourself (instead of defending your arguments with reasonable reply's), questioning everything that is said in an arrogant manner and completely ignoring previous arguments that have been made by me and others in this thread.
And I would like to know what do you actually mean with pathetic reasons, didn't followed that one...? |
I thought I was done with this thread however....
I found the irony here amusing. Maybe you would like to address my posts on page 3?
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Why have you resorted to petty insults? You are right about not posing those specific claims however you quoted me and tried to push the discussion into an area which I all ready agreed with you on, so it would have been entirely pointless to go there.
What some you might not have been able to see from my posts was I was trying to make a point about some atheists and agnostics not evaluating their evidence for their arguments properly, which I can only guess it has become fashionable to bash any sought of religion, even when the integrity of an argument is questionable.
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Your aggressive tone kind of made it difficult not to return the same tone.
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| spankie wrote: | | bushwacka wrote: | i'm a molecular biologist myself, me and my colleagues are the worst atheists/blasphemers there are. you just can't do this kind of research (especially genetics/development biology) while being religious.
but i would say it depends on your field of research. as long as you're not into something that is "copyrighted" by god according to the bible, it doesn't really make a difference if you believe in the old geezer up there |
yeah, im a molecular biologist as well, well in fact a biotechnologist, even a bio informatician, it doesnt get any worse 
If those creationists only had 1% insights in current drug research, they'd surely admit they come from a monkey and belief in evolution, same goes for all the other mumbo jumbo religion stuff. |
The way i see it, genetics is one field of science that ultimately leads to the belief in "God" or a "Creator".
The billions of chromosomes that code for your existence clearly point to an intelligent designer.
Humans are mere machines, and every machine has a creator. |
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| compubrain3000 wrote: | | spankie wrote: | | bushwacka wrote: | i'm a molecular biologist myself, me and my colleagues are the worst atheists/blasphemers there are. you just can't do this kind of research (especially genetics/development biology) while being religious.
but i would say it depends on your field of research. as long as you're not into something that is "copyrighted" by god according to the bible, it doesn't really make a difference if you believe in the old geezer up there |
yeah, im a molecular biologist as well, well in fact a biotechnologist, even a bio informatician, it doesnt get any worse
If those creationists only had 1% insights in current drug research, they'd surely admit they come from a monkey and belief in evolution, same goes for all the other mumbo jumbo religion stuff. |
The way i see it, genetics is one field of science that ultimately leads to the belief in "God" or a "Creator".
The billions of chromosomes that code for your existence clearly point to an intelligent designer.
Humans are mere machines, and every machine has a creator. |
And what made that "intelligent" creator so intelligent?
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| Frant wrote: | | You mean like "god" made the flies have one wing full of germs and bacteria while the other wing is full with the cure? |
Glad you mentioned this
| Quote: | | The surface of flies is the last place you would expect to find antibiotics, yet that is exactly where a team of Australian researchers is concentrating their efforts. |
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And who created the creator, this is how the human mind works right, someone must have created the creator in the 1st place and someone must have created him/her/it etc etc...
I thoroughly believe that evolution is the culprit here. Our brains have for one reason or another developed what we call "consciousness" and that gives us the concept of imagination. We question things that we don't understand, so if we ponder on things like the "big" question "The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything" we can't really grasp it...cause we are derived from mollusks from the bottom of ponds, and evolution have not yet brought us up to par to answer that. So what do we do...we start to imagine. There must be a higher being that created the whole wonderful bliss that we call reality and the Universe, and that thing is "God"...cause we can't find another name for it at the mo...
Hang on, what if this is just how it is, there is nothing more...we are simply a small small part of "everything" and that "just" happened...BUT NO! we are human and there must be a higher being that wanted us cause we are "conscious" and can think, so there must be a "designer" that thought us up...15 billion years ago (of course considering that the target of that creation would spring in to existence the last 2 million years before NOW!)...
We will probably kill our self off in the name of the imaginary "God" our stupid "ape" minds created, and something else (more worthy natures greatness) will take over and live in harmony and peace as to what they are.
We as a species are stupid and totally not worthy of the greatness and glory that brought us here. So I really wish the next "master race" the best of luck...and I really wish that they don't evolve the same way we did...because we...are flawed=destined to be extinct. Some times that happens in evolution...the weak die etc etc...and we are weak...at least if you look at all the mad men clinging to a so called "God".
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| compubrain3000 wrote: | | spankie wrote: | | bushwacka wrote: | i'm a molecular biologist myself, me and my colleagues are the worst atheists/blasphemers there are. you just can't do this kind of research (especially genetics/development biology) while being religious.
but i would say it depends on your field of research. as long as you're not into something that is "copyrighted" by god according to the bible, it doesn't really make a difference if you believe in the old geezer up there |
yeah, im a molecular biologist as well, well in fact a biotechnologist, even a bio informatician, it doesnt get any worse
If those creationists only had 1% insights in current drug research, they'd surely admit they come from a monkey and belief in evolution, same goes for all the other mumbo jumbo religion stuff. |
The way i see it, genetics is one field of science that ultimately leads to the belief in "God" or a "Creator".
The billions of chromosomes that code for your existence clearly point to an intelligent designer.
Humans are mere machines, and every machine has a creator. |
dude come on.
All molecular biology is based on RANDOM evolution. R A N D O M. Every drug you take has gone through a research pipeline that uses evolutionary aspects... Especially the new cancer/diabetic etc drugs.
I dont understand why you guys cannot admit it.
For years people have been shitting with grain crops to improve yield. Once they had the DNA code and compared it with other DNA codes of other types of grains, they could spectacularly increase yield.
And how is DNA compared with other DNA sequences, by using a random evolution speed and a non random evolution speed, that is the speed of closely related species.
And you can say whatever you want, but it works. Plants are bigger, drugs work, and it all goes faster than in the past and the results are better than in the past.
You can even put a number on the relatedness of 2 DNA sequences, the e-value. Taking into account the random mutation speed, you can say how unprobable it is that a sequence did mutate randomly into another one and is thus not related. And guess what, everything above 1 appears to be biologically relevant.
Saying that god created DNA is just plain ignorant. Biotech stands (or falls) with the belief in random, uncontrolled events and a random mutation speed compared to a "related mutation speed". It is even possible to determine the tree of life by just looking at the differences in certain genes. But oh wait, tree of life? God just put us all on earth 6000 years ago i guess?
There was no intelligent creator to generate DNA. Hell, DNA/RNA is so complexely regulated that it only can have developed through randomness...
BTW: to all the non believers of evolution. You all think you are so much smarter than monkeys and can speak and have a conscious etc and therefore you can think and bblablabla. You are better than all the rest therefore you have to be created by god.
a) Drugs can take all "modern" behaviour away in like 1 week.
b) A monkey can be stimulated to "modern" behaviour by giving some drugs
c) For every "modern" facet of human life, such as brain, cognitive values etc.. there is an intermediate form present somewhere in animals.
d) And evolution do is possible, Just look at a baby. Shits in his pants, plain stupid, As useful as a dog. But it evolves, mostly, in something better and smarter. Of course, God did that
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| CaptainCox wrote: | And who created the creator, this is how the human mind works right, someone must have created the creator in the 1st place and someone must have created him/her/it etc etc...
I thoroughly believe that evolution is the culprit here. Our brains have for one reason or another developed what we call "consciousness" and that gives us the concept of imagination. We question things that we don't understand, so if we ponder on things like the "big" question "The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything" we can't really grasp it...cause we are derived from mollusks from the bottom of ponds, and evolution have not yet brought us up to par to answer that. So what do we do...we start to imagine. There must be a higher being that created the whole wonderful bliss that we call reality and the Universe, and that thing is "God"...cause we can't find another name for it at the mo...
Hang on, what if this is just how it is, there is nothing more...we are simply a small small part of "everything" and that "just" happened...BUT NO! we are human and there must be a higher being that wanted us cause we are "conscious" and can think, so there must be a "designer" that thought us up...15 billion years ago (of course considering that the target of that creation would spring in to existence the last 2 million years before NOW!)...
We will probably kill our self off in the name of the imaginary "God" our stupid "ape" minds created, and something else (more worthy natures greatness) will take over and live in harmony and peace as to what they are.
We as a species are stupid and totally not worthy of the greatness and glory that brought us here. So I really wish the next "master race" the best of luck...and I really wish that they don't evolve the same way we did...because we...are flawed=destined to be extinct. Some times that happens in evolution...the weak die etc etc...and we are weak...at least if you look at all the mad men clinging to a so called "God". |
I'd rather believe in an "intelligent creator" than believe that somehow a few atoms accidentally reacted together and gave rise to a conscious beings  |
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