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HoLyMaN
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 Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 19:21 Post subject: 4850 OC Edition artifacts in "some" games?!? |
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Sup all?
got today club3d hd4850 overclock edition...
despite i have a pretty big bottleneck on my rig i noticed that in some games specially L4D
i have in some areas Artifacts...
the on idle is 38C and on biggest stress 70C...the funny part is that even if i underclock it to stock 4850 it still has wierd artifacts..i ran every possible gpu bench and never got artifacts...again only in some games like fallout3,farcry2,l4d and more....very wierd...
i ran google and found out that some ppl has the same problem with the same games!
so i guess its driver related?!?
my rig:
e6400 266@425 (3400mhz)
g.skill ddr2 2gb 800mhz
asus p5b deluxe (latest bios)
win xp sp3
club3d hd4850 oc edition (tried every cat drivers)
anyone know about this something?
P.S
take a look at this dudes pictures that the same thing what i have
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?s=19cb21065546e782c93feb4a366908df&p=1033366924&postcount=10
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 19:36 Post subject: |
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did you have an nvidia card before? got rid of drivers well enough?
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 19:41 Post subject: |
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| Stefan F wrote: | | did you have an nvidia card before? got rid of drivers well enough? |
had nvidia before...and got rid of any drivers left from it for sure!
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 20:05 Post subject: Re: 4850 OC Edition artifacts in "some" games?!? |
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| HoLyMaN wrote: | Sup all?
got today club3d hd4850 overclock edition...
despite i have a pretty big bottleneck on my rig i noticed that in some games specially L4D
i have in some areas Artifacts...
the on idle is 38C and on biggest stress 70C...the funny part is that even if i underclock it to stock 4850 it still has wierd artifacts..i ran every possible gpu bench and never got artifacts...again only in some games like fallout3,farcry2,l4d and more....very wierd...
i ran google and found out that some ppl has the same problem with the same games!
so i guess its driver related?!?
my rig:
e6400 266@425 (3400mhz)
g.skill ddr2 2gb 800mhz
asus p5b deluxe (latest bios)
win xp sp3
club3d hd4850 oc edition (tried every cat drivers)
anyone know about this something?
P.S
take a look at this dudes pictures that the same thing what i have
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?s=19cb21065546e782c93feb4a366908df&p=1033366924&postcount=10 |
Two things I immediately think of: PSU (low quality voltage to the 4850) and move the card to the other PCIe slot (if you have two). I have to say though, it looks like a RAM error.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 20:20 Post subject: Re: 4850 OC Edition artifacts in "some" games?!? |
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| Frant wrote: | | HoLyMaN wrote: | Sup all?
got today club3d hd4850 overclock edition...
despite i have a pretty big bottleneck on my rig i noticed that in some games specially L4D
i have in some areas Artifacts...
the on idle is 38C and on biggest stress 70C...the funny part is that even if i underclock it to stock 4850 it still has wierd artifacts..i ran every possible gpu bench and never got artifacts...again only in some games like fallout3,farcry2,l4d and more....very wierd...
i ran google and found out that some ppl has the same problem with the same games!
so i guess its driver related?!?
my rig:
e6400 266@425 (3400mhz)
g.skill ddr2 2gb 800mhz
asus p5b deluxe (latest bios)
win xp sp3
club3d hd4850 oc edition (tried every cat drivers)
anyone know about this something?
P.S
take a look at this dudes pictures that the same thing what i have
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?s=19cb21065546e782c93feb4a366908df&p=1033366924&postcount=10 |
Two things I immediately think of: PSU (low quality voltage to the 4850) and move the card to the other PCIe slot (if you have two). I have to say though, it looks like a RAM error. |
my PSU is PCPOWER& COOLING 610W and i already moved to other pcie slot same thing there too...what do ya mean RAM problem? the gpu ram or pc ram?
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 20:38 Post subject: |
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Return the card and get a new one.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 20:57 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Return the card and get a new one. |
sounds good to me but how is that when i stress the gpu in 3dmark06 or furmark there is not a single artifacts then?
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:09 Post subject: |
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| HoLyMaN wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | Return the card and get a new one. |
sounds good to me but how is that when i stress the gpu in 3dmark06 or furmark there is not a single artifacts then? |
It's impossible to say exactly which transistors on the 4850 are used by whatever test you're doing.
Suggestion: install plenty of games and test. Test Half Life 2 (source engine, same as L4D), Crysis etc. etc. etc. to see if you can find something similar in different games.
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | HoLyMaN wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | Return the card and get a new one. |
sounds good to me but how is that when i stress the gpu in 3dmark06 or furmark there is not a single artifacts then? |
It's impossible to say exactly which transistors on the 4850 are used by whatever test you're doing.
Suggestion: install plenty of games and test. Test Half Life 2 (source engine, same as L4D), Crysis etc. etc. etc. to see if you can find something similar in different games. |
Well i saw similar artifacts in l4d,farcry2,fallout3, crysis played a bit didnt saw any of them even ran couple of time the benchmark there....gonna try more games if you say so...
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:29 Post subject: |
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Run Furmark which basically cooks graphics cards. If you're getting artifacts there then RMA the card.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:35 Post subject: |
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If your getting artifacts on this card that you didn't on the other then RMA the card regardless of when the artifacts appear.
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:45 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | Run Furmark which basically cooks graphics cards. If you're getting artifacts there then RMA the card. |
i ran furmark stress cook test and there was no artifacts...
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 21:47 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | If your getting artifacts on this card that you didn't on the other then RMA the card regardless of when the artifacts appear. |
my last card was 8800gts 640mb never ran furmark there but not a single artifact on any game!....im really lost here..is there a chance maybe its my old p5b deluxe mobo?maybe some kind of conflict between hardware?
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 22:48 Post subject: |
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Driver issue? Try a different set of drivers as the last resort.
The card should be going into 3D clocks during the furmark bench but are you doing it windowed or full screen? Maybe it's staying at 2D clocks hence no artifacts but when you launch a full screen game and it bumps up the core/memory speed you get them. The pictures look like memory artifacts to me, you can even try downclocking the memory.
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Jan 2009 00:22 Post subject: |
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Ok guys i got news!
i underclocked it to less then stock 4850!!! core 625 mem 900 !!!
guess what????
no artifacts at all! all thoes places where i had artifacts in l4d are gone!
soo 1 thing left to do is RMA!!!
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Jan 2009 05:51 Post subject: |
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| HoLyMaN wrote: | Ok guys i got news!
i underclocked it to less then stock 4850!!! core 625 mem 900 !!!
guess what????
no artifacts at all! all thoes places where i had artifacts in l4d are gone!
soo 1 thing left to do is RMA!!! |
I was actually going to advise unlocking it. Do you know what temps it ran at?
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Jan 2009 16:19 Post subject: |
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| NuclearShadow wrote: | | HoLyMaN wrote: | Ok guys i got news!
i underclocked it to less then stock 4850!!! core 625 mem 900 !!!
guess what????
no artifacts at all! all thoes places where i had artifacts in l4d are gone!
soo 1 thing left to do is RMA!!! |
I was actually going to advise unlocking it. Do you know what temps it ran at? |
what do ya mean unlocking it?
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Jan 2009 22:31 Post subject: |
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I have the exacct card m8 but mine is the his edition.
I got artifacts in arma the other day, seeing how the stock fan on these cards is shit, i undone it all and cleaned it out of all the clogged up dust now its like -30 cooler with the fan on 80% in ati control panel.
I'm going to buy a new fan for this as its crap.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 03:29 Post subject: |
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The pre OC'd versions OC the memory way too high. Most artifacting is a result of memory. The majority of 4850 owners can't even hit 1100. If you don't want to deal with the RMA headache try flashing it to a standard or lower factory OC'd 4850 Bios and see the result.
Mine was at 850/1050 volt modded but even going 1075 on the memory got me similar artifacts.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 14:07 Post subject: |
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There are dots around the line he added.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 14:30 Post subject: |
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Best advice i could give then is artefacts are normally caused by overheating, well in all the cases i've had of them.
What i normally do is just take the fan off and make sure you're clean all the dust from the card out, replace it and every time I've done that I've seen a decrease in temps of about 30c.
These cards need a better fan though so I'd recommend you buy a good 1 as the stock 1 they gave us as they do with most cards so we have to pay more money n replace them, are shit,.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 15:27 Post subject: |
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Just posted this link over at the ATI forum 
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU1MiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
Tutorial as on how to set up different "fan" profiles.
I run my 4870x2 at 38% in desktop, films and browsing etc.
Then I have a 60% profile for gaming. My card is idle using the 38% set up at around 46c or so, when gaming i would say max 65-68c.
Maybe try to set up a gaming profile using 55-65% fan speed and see what happens. At least worth a shot.
Also get Everest
www.lavalys.com
to check your temps.
EDIT:Reread your 1st post...seems that your temps are more or less ok...38c Idle, 70c stress. Not that bad actually.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 16:48 Post subject: |
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Is this unique to 4850? I never had this on my 4870X2, which is leaps and bounds hotter than the 4850... Maybe just bad RAM modules on the card?
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 18:40 Post subject: |
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Same here, never ever had artifacts on my 4870x2. But then again I never really ran my card with stock fan speed. Well maybe once or twice when I got it, and before I found the fan profile trick.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 18:54 Post subject: |
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Mine went to nearly 100% the other day when clogged up with dust.
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 19:42 Post subject: |
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Some news...
today i checked the card at my buddys comp...he had P35 dfi motherboard
well there are no "artifacts" at all on his rig...im pretty sure it's related to some kind of hardware issue more likely because my p5b deluxe has pcie 1.0 and his 1.1..
thats the only thing that is possible tomorrow gonna check the card last time on different asus p5b deluxe board...if the same result then im gonna sell it and take nvidia based card...
p.s
also did a little research last night i found 1 thing common with all other ppl who has similar effects...they all had asus,asrock,and some gigabyte boards...pretty wierd
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HoLyMaN
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 21:20 Post subject: |
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Ok...
soo i sold this gfx and got anew 9800gtx+...all great but now i have a new problem...
the new gfx card making a strange static electrical noise when im using 3D applications aka games....wth is that?
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 23:45 Post subject: |
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You mean a high pitch whining noise?
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