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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Dec 2008 17:45    Post subject:
Any info on how the multiplayer campaign will be handled? The only way I can see it work is if the battles are auto-resolve only, I could be wrong though.

Oh and hope they don't skimp on the AI now that multiplayer's in, a lot of companies seem to do that, except Stardock which is why I freakin love them. Very Happy Here's a thought, maybe CA should hire Stardock to do the AI...


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actionpc
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Dec 2008 17:53    Post subject:
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Any info on how the multiplayer campaign will be handled? The only way I can see it work is if the battles are auto-resolve only, I could be wrong though.

Oh and hope they don't skimp on the AI now that multiplayer's in, a lot of companies seem to do that, except Stardock which is why I freakin love them. Very Happy Here's a thought, maybe CA should hire Stardock to do the AI...


multiplayer should be very good so i have read anyway it will use steamcloud for online saves and steamworks function. some news here

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/40054
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vaifan1986




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Dec 2008 18:04    Post subject:
It's not the voice that's annoying, it's the 'funny' anti-british comments that made me turn the sound off.
Why do people, who usually have no sense of humor, consider themselves obligated to share their wit with other people I'll never know.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Dec 2008 21:22    Post subject:
i take it, that you sir, are british Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Dec 2008 22:03    Post subject:
all the more fun coming from a german, playing as america
ah, the overlaid silliness of history
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 04:06    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
Cheers for the heads up. The vid shows new stuff for sure, but the voice of that guy is pretty annoying!. And yea i speak German Wink.

Yeah i agree mate, he has a seriously annoying voice that guy.


i dont speak german and his voice annoys the shit outta me lol


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vaifan1986




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 17:22    Post subject:
LuckyStrike wrote:
i take it, that you sir, are british Very Happy

No, from Croatia Very Happy , but I like alot of British stuff:Steven Gerrard, Led Zeppelin, Red Dwarf, Black Adder and a pint I once had while I was in a pub in Surrey, England ; basically everything exept fish and chips and Prince Charles.
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 12:18    Post subject:
vaifan1986 wrote:
LuckyStrike wrote:
i take it, that you sir, are british Very Happy

No, from Croatia Very Happy , but I like alot of British stuff:Steven Gerrard, Led Zeppelin, Red Dwarf, Black Adder and a pint I once had while I was in a pub in Surrey, England ; basically everything exept fish and chips and Prince Charles.


u think with all the money the Royal Family has, they could afford to get their teeth fixed ya know? lol


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 13:34    Post subject:
Nextgame.it guys have tryed the game, they said that it's the most demanding game ever: with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4 GB di RAM, Geforce 8800 GTX they obtained a decent framerate on medium/minimum settings at 1280x960...
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 14:10    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Nextgame.it guys have tryed the game, they said that it's the most demanding game ever: with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4 GB di RAM, Geforce 8800 GTX they obtained a decent framerate on medium/minimum settings at 1280x960...


...well, despite what they are saying it still looks to be same engine as in Rome, so "optimization" comes from there.
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shole




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 14:15    Post subject:
well, DUH!
much like doom3 is still quake1 engine
or deus ex and gears of war are both unreal engine
or like you are the same person as your father
same, but different
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 14:21    Post subject:
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...well, despite what they are saying it still looks to be same engine as in Rome, so "optimization" comes from there.


with steam and steamworks SDK features it will be better that in Rome. from steam with this suite of tools the graphic engine can be easy changed
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 16:06    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Nextgame.it guys have tryed the game, they said that it's the most demanding game ever: with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4 GB di RAM, Geforce 8800 GTX they obtained a decent framerate on medium/minimum settings at 1280x960... :doh:


Q6600 and 8800 GTX is just mainstream nowadays and the game most likely still has to undergo some optimization before it's released.

Q6600 is 2 years old, and 8800 GTX is even older, so expecting that seriously outdated hardware to run a game that isn't even out yet at max settings or stuff like that is crazy.

So.. it's probably gonna get a bit better, but not a lot. Medium settings with that hardware would be perfectly acceptable. It's not a fast paced shooter where you need 50+ fps at all times to accomplish anything anyway...
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 16:18    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Nextgame.it guys have tryed the game, they said that it's the most demanding game ever: with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4 GB di RAM, Geforce 8800 GTX they obtained a decent framerate on medium/minimum settings at 1280x960...


Q6600 and 8800 GTX is just mainstream nowadays and the game most likely still has to undergo some optimization before it's released.

Q6600 is 2 years old, and 8800 GTX is even older, so expecting that seriously outdated hardware to run a game that isn't even out yet at max settings or stuff like that is crazy.

So.. it's probably gonna get a bit better, but not a lot. Medium settings with that hardware would be perfectly acceptable. It's not a fast paced shooter where you need 50+ fps at all times to accomplish anything anyway...

Yep this is true, but here in Italy a Q6600+8800GTX is still seen as an high end system... Laughing .Anyway, as you said, some optimization will surely come and even at 20+ fps the game will be fully playable. (I was only thinking at those "full-max-aa16x-settings" slaves...eheh)
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 17:58    Post subject:
shole wrote:
well, DUH!
much like doom3 is still quake1 engine
or deus ex and gears of war are both unreal engine
or like you are the same person as your father
same, but different


No there is a huge difference. Even between unreal engine 2 and 3 there is huge difference, here its even bigger.

Shogun and MTW were made on same engine. Looking from pure strategic and tactical view, it was superior to Rome game engine. It was also better optimised for normal gameplay and even more for network. In both you could play large 4vs4 online battles with larger unit sizes than in Rome engine games, all that on pre-war 45k modems! At the same time Rome engine games aren't nearly as optimised. One user with bad connection (and bad here is 1000kb/s) or one user with bad cpu, low ram, or even weak graphical card was enough to stall everyone else. And even on optimal settings people could only get as much as 3vs3 battles with lowest possible unit sizes. That means, less users on field with less men per unit with weaker tactical options. Only difference was that whole thing processed individual unit animations that were unnoticed on any usable camera zoom.

Even developers themself said that they couldn't optimise MTW2 to be better played on network because of restrictions with the game engine. Thats why we were promised new game engine. And by the first look of it (again only by the look of it!), we will not get that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 18:21    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
shole wrote:
well, DUH!
much like doom3 is still quake1 engine
or deus ex and gears of war are both unreal engine
or like you are the same person as your father
same, but different


No there is a huge difference. Even between unreal engine 2 and 3 there is huge difference, here its even bigger.

Dude, I think that was the intention of his post... Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 07:07    Post subject:
Bump

Here's a hands on preview plus a nice video (also in HD)
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/empiretotalwar/news.html?sid=6202468&mode=previews&om_act=convert&om_clk=previews&tag=previews;title;7

Also, bought the game today. Well, pre-ordered but paid for the entire game. Cant wait till March 4th! God its gunna be a FUCKIN LONG WAIT!

This is gunna be game of the year, no doubt. Just watch the trailer/movie and read the preview....fuck...gunna be playing this for a good 6 months.
Hell, I still play MTW2 and MTW2K

CAN'T WAIT


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 11:46    Post subject:
this is true Very Happy Very Happy

gonna upgrade/get new comp just for this Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 15:04    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
this is true Very Happy Very Happy

gonna upgrade/get new comp just for this Very Happy


Thats why I upgraded Very Happy Im serious. Just for this game.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 16:24    Post subject:
Sounds like colonization Very Happy which is good.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 03:41    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Sounds like colonization Very Happy which is good.


uve never played a Total War game?!

Ok, get Medieval Total War 2 and its expansion, Kingdoms to see what its about.

Its THE BEST strat game out there. No game can compete.

I love colonization too, but its nothing like TW games. And Empire is gunna fuckin be sooooo good.
This is a game to buy for sure (hence ive already bought it lol ).


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sueil




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 05:48    Post subject:
Was going over Steam today and saw they added "empire: total war elite units" A 20 dollar DLC that gives you 6 special types of units. I can understand DLC, but 20 dollars for 6 new units? Come the fuck on.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 07:34    Post subject:
sueil wrote:
Was going over Steam today and saw they added "empire: total war elite units" A 20 dollar DLC that gives you 6 special types of units. I can understand DLC, but 20 dollars for 6 new units? Come the fuck on.

yeah steams pricing is fucked..

Local price for pre order (which includes.. Pre-order Empire: Total War Special Forces Edition and you will receive access to the exclusive elite unit The Death’s Head Hussars)

Empire: Total War Special Forces Edition: Local Price $99NZD .. converted to USD makes $53USD

soo..
Local Price = $99NZD ($53USD) (which includes all this)

Steam Price = $148NZD ($80USD) (which includes nothing)

Utter what the fuckness
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 10:42    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
Sounds like colonization Very Happy which is good.


uve never played a Total War game?!

Ok, get Medieval Total War 2 and its expansion, Kingdoms to see what its about.

Its THE BEST strat game out there. No game can compete.

I love colonization too, but its nothing like TW games. And Empire is gunna fuckin be sooooo good.
This is a game to buy for sure (hence ive already bought it lol ).
I know about the Total War series, I meant this video up there where you play as the colonists and try to gain independence it reminded me of Colonization (still haven't played the remake Smile )
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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 10:46    Post subject:
Steam Laughing

Hmm might order the SE edition as well, only 35£ at Play and comes with an exclusive unit.

Edit: Bah it's some crappy ship, I want some leet death's head troops, too.
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 20:14    Post subject:
5 of 5 video released Smile
Regarding multiplayer Smile
http://www.sega.co.uk/empire/gallery/videos.php
Not in hdd so we will have to wait till it goes elsewhere.
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 20:15    Post subject:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GZslp7q0O1E
Click hd under the player Smile

oops,in German lol.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NuyIXKNarvE
English version Razz ^^^^^
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 18:08    Post subject:
No1 interested in the last vid they brought out?
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 18:18    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
No1 interested in the last vid they brought out?

Not really interested in the multiplayer part of the game because there's a chance I might lose against someone, and that's something my frail ego can't handle.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 18:32    Post subject:
i hope the game will be optimized enough


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