Soccer? American Football?
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fraich3




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 15:14    Post subject:
I call it NFL if im going to watch a game. And i call it football if im going to play with my friends, sometimes American football if im talking to newbies Wink

But it doesnt matter, its a great game, love every minute of it. So the name doesnt really matters that much to me Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 15:21    Post subject:
That IQ list is hilarious.

55–69 Mild Mental Retardation

So, half of Africa is retarded?
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tedrotheredro




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 15:51    Post subject:
The foot is still important in American football. To start the game, there is a kickoff. Every change of possession requires a punt (if it's not a turnover). Every score requires a field goal kick, whether it is a touchdown extra point or a 3-point field goal. After the field goal, there is another kickoff to change possession.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 15:58    Post subject:
So is the goalkeeper in football without him you would lose for sure but you don't see the name 'Handball' or 'Goalkeeper 2000' do you Rolling Eyes and punters and kickers are seen as kind of pussys in the nfl because they don't/can't tackle anyone and give them brain damage or a broken limb Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 16:07    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure most of the punters/kickers in the league now would kick my ass Wink They're pussy's because the guy next to him is 6'3, 350lb's. I'm not saying that the world should change the name of their game, but American Football uses the foot for some of the most important events in the game...
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 16:30    Post subject:
Blocking, tackling, queartback, running, throwing, sack, these are all more important words then foot in american football.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 17:11    Post subject:
Sounds like 'Tour de France' to me Laughing it could be anything though.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 17:13    Post subject:
another list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality#National_IQ_and_QHC_values

didnt know almighty north korea have that much resources to educate all of the population

bs stats they are


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 18:47    Post subject:
the l word Surprised hot bitches yo!


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the l word Surprised hot bitches yo!

finally lol

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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 04:53    Post subject:
I like Soccer (football for you euro's) but 'american' footbal is 10x better to watch. I mean a typical soccer match is a bunch guys kicking the ball up the field, down the field, up the field etc. Maybe once or twice a match there's a sick drive to the goal that leads to an amazing goal.

But football....fuck, every play is exciting. Seeing a huge hit is far more exciting that watching some guy kick a ball up the field only to have it kicked back.

Now, if soccer had checking, then it would be a different story. Thats what soccer needs, checking.

And not to mention soccer players are fuckin babies...ive seen games (watched on the other day where this happened actually) where a guy does a slide tackle, doesnt touch the guy with the ball and the guy with the ball flies into the air, lands, rolls around holding his leg, acting like he's hurt bad, the ref gives the other guy a yellow card or a red card and then the 'hurt' guy gets up and jogs back to his position in no pain whatsoever.

Thats what I hate about soccer (especially the Italians, they are the worst for this), all the players who take dives.....thats not sportsmanship, its being a fuckin pussy.

They should introduce some kinda 'dive detection system'. Like take the example i used above. Since soccer players wear cleats, the refs should check for some sort of indication of physical contact...a cut, a red mark, broken skin....fuck, anything that proves that there's the remote chance of injury. Cuz the way it is now, its ridiculous.
I remember the last World Cup. The Italian team should get into diving (as in swimming diving) since thats all they seem to do on the field....


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I mean a typical soccer match is a bunch guys kicking the ball up the field, down the field, up the field etc.


You mean as opposed to the "take 1 yard, lose 2 yards, take 2 yards, lose 1 yard" etc. etc.... That makes me wonder if there's something in the water in North America that makes all of you display symptoms of ADHD or some other problem that affects your attention spans negative. Wink

While I'm not a huge football fan (I prefer hockey) I can appreciate the tactics, strategies and skillful passes and shots. I guess that's what separates NA from the rest of the world. You guys want to see a dozen guys hug and cling to each other or try to do as much damage to each others as they possibly can (isn't that why K1 and other full contact sports exist), simply out of blood lust and the need for action every 3rd second with inflated scores.

Disclaimer: read my first disclaimer. Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 05:31    Post subject:
While I agree that our attention spans are limited, american football is not all about bloodlust...it's more of a side effect Smile

I like the slower pace of 'soccer' and hockey. The skill required to score is incredible. Additionally, no commercials! 45+ minutes of pure sport. MLS (Major League Soccer) sucks major ass, tho. World Cup/Premier League ftw.

The NFL has a reality tv/soap opera appeal to it Wink It will always be my favorite sport to watch, but I like basketball or 'soccer' to play.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 05:39    Post subject:
tedrotheredro wrote:
While I agree that our attention spans are limited, american football is not all about bloodlust...it's more of a side effect Smile

I like the slower pace of 'soccer' and hockey. The skill required to score is incredible. Additionally, no commercials! 45+ minutes of pure sport. MLS (Major League Soccer) sucks major ass, tho. World Cup/Premier League ftw.

The NFL has a reality tv/soap opera appeal to it Wink It will always be my favorite sport to watch, but I like basketball or 'soccer' to play.


American "Rugby Cylinder Carrier Game" is such a strong cultural trait. It's ultra American, just like Baseball. Basically took old British sports and then turned them into extremely American sports rooted deeply in American culture. That's why they haven't replaced Football and other sports globally, they're too American and only someone with an American mentality can appreciate it for what it is. Personally I can't see why the brits keep playing and showing cricket on the telly. It's more fun watching a 1-mile snail race. Golf looks like pure adrenaline food in comparison with cricket. Yet they love it in the UK. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 05:44    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
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I mean a typical soccer match is a bunch guys kicking the ball up the field, down the field, up the field etc.


You mean as opposed to the "take 1 yard, lose 2 yards, take 2 yards, lose 1 yard" etc. etc.... That makes me wonder if there's something in the water in North America that makes all of you display symptoms of ADHD or some other problem that affects your attention spans negative. Wink

While I'm not a huge football fan (I prefer hockey) I can appreciate the tactics, strategies and skillful passes and shots. I guess that's what separates NA from the rest of the world. You guys want to see a dozen guys hug and cling to each other or try to do as much damage to each others as they possibly can (isn't that why K1 and other full contact sports exist), simply out of blood lust and the need for action every 3rd second with inflated scores.

Disclaimer: read my first disclaimer. Wink


Yeah man, Im a hockey fan too. Fav sport to watch. Best game on earth. Well, NHL/NA hockey...international hockey sucks....barely any checking. Thats why Canada usually wins international tourney's. If its not Canada, its the Russians, Swedes or Americans or even the Czechs.
Rest of the international teams shouldnt even show up.

THe World Juniors start on the 26th (big thing in canada cuz we usually win the tourney and alot of kids from the team end up in the NHL ala Sidney Crosby, Jerome Iginla etc). Always watch that tourney. If we dont win (Canada that is), ppl here get pissed....no one tops the Canadian hockey system...americans and pretty much anyone who wants to play professional hockey comes to canada to learn/train.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 05:45    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
I like Soccer


Excuse me? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 05:48    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
I like Soccer


Excuse me? Evil or Very Mad


Sorry, Football...its hard to refer to football in the traditional way when your talking about both European Football and North American Football. Would get rather confusing ya know? Hence i used soccer Smile

Btw, in canada, we refer to soccer as football now eh. Noticed it lately while watching Sportscentre and shit

EDIT

The yanks are the ones who still hold on to the soccer term....they dont want anything to do with europe....they even call Canada "to european"....lol


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SycoShaman wrote:
Nailbiter wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
I like Soccer


Excuse me? Evil or Very Mad


Sorry, Football...its hard to refer to football in the traditional way when your talking about both European Football and North American Football. Would get rather confusing ya know? Hence i used soccer Smile

Btw, in canada, we refer to soccer as football now eh. Noticed it lately while watching Sportscentre and shit

EDIT

The yanks are the ones who still hold on to the soccer term....they dont want anything to do with europe....they even call Canada "to european"....lol


And they really make sure they get that message across by mocking Canadians for saying "aboot". Wink


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Frant wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
Nailbiter wrote:


Excuse me? Evil or Very Mad


Sorry, Football...its hard to refer to football in the traditional way when your talking about both European Football and North American Football. Would get rather confusing ya know? Hence i used soccer Smile

Btw, in canada, we refer to soccer as football now eh. Noticed it lately while watching Sportscentre and shit

EDIT

The yanks are the ones who still hold on to the soccer term....they dont want anything to do with europe....they even call Canada "to european"....lol


And they really make sure they get that message across by mocking Canadians for saying "aboot". Wink


lol that kills me. No canadian (aside from ppl from Newfoundland) say 'aboot'.

And what kills me even more is the fact americans say 'ruff' instead of 'roof'....a dog says 'ruff'....the thing that covers your house is not a 'ruff', its a roof.

I always get into arguements with my cousins from Texas when I talk to them on the phone about that. And then they come back with 'well, canadian's say 'aboot'" and I say "Do I say 'aboot'? Do any of our family members say 'aboot'?" and they say "well, no".
All i say after that is "point proven".
Only Canadians that say 'aboot' are Atlantic Canadians (Newfoundlanders, ppl from Nova Scotia, New Brunswick etc).


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 13:13    Post subject:
Haha abootball maybe? Wink Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 13:22    Post subject:
I do know something, and its something Sherlock Holmes allways used to say Syco, 'something is most defenitely aboot':LOL:


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Nahh, bet sport to watch is nordic cross country skiing .
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 09:17    Post subject:
not enough americans on this forum i see

to you canadian, i don't know where the hell you pulling that shit out of, we don't say "ruff"
(ha, the fact that your friend is texan, who probably has a southern accent, may explain your perceived phenomenon)

and we don't say that canadians are too "european", haha man... that's fucking pathetic

and to the dumb croatian who claimed that nba teams have been losing to european club teams? where the hell did you get this info?

unless you're talking about international basketball tournaments, which the u.s. has recently decided is worth its time, hence the redeem team's absolutely dominating performance in the olympics

also, why are europeans such whiny ass wussies, yall are bitching left and right about the stupidest things, like for example why we call football, football. do hamburgers originate from hamburg, germany?
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 12:03    Post subject:
Your mother is dumb first of all, second stop whining like all american bitches tend to do, third Laughing your knowledge about basketball is laughable, all your stars where beaten by Greece that has 0 nba players a few years ago, Porto Rico destroyed you by 20 points and on the club level you lose more and more, Macabbi even beat an NBA team on your own turf and that was played according to your own rules, I won't even talk about when nba teams tour around Europe.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 12:05    Post subject:
Haha, but I bet NBA teams then go and accuse the European basketball rules as pussies or wussies or something similar, and that is why they lost, not because the EU groups (or IL in the case of Maccabi) are better Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 16:08    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Your mother is dumb first of all, second stop whining like all american bitches tend to do, third Laughing your knowledge about basketball is laughable, all your stars where beaten by Greece that has 0 nba players a few years ago, Porto Rico destroyed you by 20 points and on the club level you lose more and more, Macabbi even beat an NBA team on your own turf and that was played according to your own rules, I won't even talk about when nba teams tour around Europe.


it's clear you're fucking lacking in basketball knowledge, if you don't like america, admit it, just don't post stuff like this that obviously reveals the fact that you don't have the slightest grasp on basketball

the 2006 fiba world championships, all our stars? do you call kirk hinrich, elton brand, shane battier, brad miller, stars? you don't know who they are, oh my bad. in the 2008 olympics we had guys like dwayne wade coming off the bench, and you can still make a case that we did not have all our best players, kevin garnett etc.
between 1992 and 2008 we never fielded the best team in international tournaments

i should have said the "last olympics" in my last post, altho i did say the redeem team

hey stick to water polo, isn't that croatia's national sport
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 16:43    Post subject:
2004 when USA lost to Argentina some players on that team where Lebron, Carmelo, mvp's Duncan and Iverson, Marbury, Odom, not sure what you want these are great players the problem is although you tend to have the best player it's a team's game it isn't tennis, whoever has the best team wins and other teams tend to outsmart the Americans and win.

2006 was the real disappointment though they put a lot of effort into that team and it is pretty much the same as the team from 2008, coach K and the whole management is the same, Lebron, Wade and Carmelo where the key players just like in 2008 so you seriously need to do some rechecking before you write something only key player that was missing was Kobe compared to 2008 so you know shit about basketball, Howard was there as well as Chris Paul all 5 played in 2008. And what's with the bitching who the fuck do you want on your team, Brand is considered and elite power forward in the nba it's not my problem if KG or Shaq don't feel like playing they are both old btw.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 16:47    Post subject:
Yea anyone who has seen at least a couple of NBA games can see that the skill gap between NBA and any european team is enormous. I think the last winner of the Euroleague - CSKA Moscow got owned by some mediocre NBA teams during the preseason.

As for american football - it is simply my favourite sport. I love the strategic aspect, the beautiful passes, amazing one-handed catches, the runs, tackles, etc. It is so much more diverse than soccer. Even though i enjoy the occasional soccer match.
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