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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 05:02    Post subject:
hello i dont know if should post this here, but i will do it anyway xD

for those who have missing texture and use the rivatuner , in the lastest version (2.21)

They fix the missing texture adding this options in drivers settings->dx tweak->texture tab

rivatuner2.11 wrote:
Added 'Enable FOURCC INTZ surfaces' and 'Enable FOURCC RAWZ surfaces' options to the 'Textures' tab of the Direct3D tweaks dialog.


But, again for those who use the rivatuner, the DX tweak icon only appears for nvidia userS?

There is no other way to activate that 2 options in ati?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 05:22    Post subject:
darthmalak wrote:
...rivatuner , in the lastest version (2.11)...


You must mean v2.21, right?


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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 05:30    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
darthmalak wrote:
...rivatuner , in the lastest version (2.11)...


You must mean v2.21, right?


yep fixed!
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 07:29    Post subject:
fixed the version notification or the missing textures with ATi's also!?

Tried those membooster apps but they really dont work, so this would be nice?!


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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 07:38    Post subject:
S@iN oNeZ!! wrote:
fixed the version notification or the missing textures with ATi's also!?

Tried those membooster apps but they really dont work, so this would be nice?!


The membooster are useless

For now played after 20m I have no missing texture, but because I realized that I had activated the HyperMemory in 1024 (hd2400) (256 +768) then the hyper memory, when the game was turned on, detected 243 (?) When I disable it detects 253 (?)

Now the question is, what happens if activate the HyperMemory (1024) I and " say to the game" that I have 1024 VRAM?
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 09:14    Post subject:
The game looks like shit and runs like shit.

Come to think of it, even Bully looked like shit and ran like shit on high end PCs.

Guess Bully was also made for future PCs.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 09:20    Post subject:
Wow guys.. are you STILL trying to get this running with an acceptable framerate!? Just give it up already. Unless you've got a decent Quad or TriCore proc -- it ain't gonna happen. Oh and stop waiting for Cockstar to wave the magic wand and fix it for you, because that ain't gonna happen either -- they've already got their money from you, now they've moved on to another console project (which will be later ported, badly, to PCs and the cycle can continue)
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:10    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
they've already got their money from you

Nope... Rolling Eyes
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:12    Post subject:
*chuckles*

Ok; "They've already got their money from the dumb fucking suckers who bought the poorly-coded trash"

Very Happy
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:23    Post subject:
I want my bandwith back !!!
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
*chuckles*

Ok; "They've already got their money from the dumb fucking suckers who bought the poorly-coded trash"

Very Happy


it only sucks if you have a shitty rig. My copy works fine with everything set to max but the res (its at 1600 something).
No crashes, texture problems, frame rate problems etc

And as for the texture issue, the patch fixes it.

This game was meant for high end systems and high end vide0 cards.

So if you have an 8800, its prolly not gunna run all that well.

Plus, MP is awesome Smile Gotta find me a gang to join and have some gang wars Smile

Its not a shitty port, like i said, its made for high end systems...and it needs to be optimized better, which rockstar said its already working on and will happen with the next patch.

EDIT

Everyone Ive seen who has a quad, least 4gb ram and a 4870x2 or a 260/280, game works perfectly.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:33    Post subject:
Sure, you're absolutely right... my PC is real shitty. How dare I expect playable framerates on something as positively hideous as mine?

/facepalm.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:34    Post subject:
I am mega pissed off. Just finished following a guide to kill all 200 pigeons. Got to the last one and i realised i have missed one somewhere Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Took me at least 10 hours of gameplay to do it. Gotta go look in every location again to find the fucker... unless anyone knows of an ingenious way to find it?


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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:41    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Everyone Ive seen who has a quad, least 4gb ram and a 4870x2 or a 260/280, game works perfectly.


r0fl
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IvanGrozny
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:41    Post subject:
I give up...Phenom X4 9950 , 4 GB DDR2 , HD 4870 X2, 2GB DDR5 , not "shitty rig" right????
And still game runs "like shit".
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:44    Post subject:
IvanGrozny wrote:
I give up...Phenom X4 9950 , 4 GB DDR2 , HD 4870 X2, 2GB DDR5 , not "shitty rig" right????
And still game runs "like shit".


Your PC is a piece of shit. Throw the 4870X2 away and get three GTX280s. Throw away the Phenom and get a pair of i7 960s!!!!111


>_>
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:46    Post subject:
Yea multiplayer is awesome with all the dumb fucks in every team scenario, occasional spectator mode crashes, and now with the cheathappens trainer that works online. Only fun with friends. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:49    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
IvanGrozny wrote:
I give up...Phenom X4 9950 , 4 GB DDR2 , HD 4870 X2, 2GB DDR5 , not "shitty rig" right????
And still game runs "like shit".


Your PC is a piece of shit. Throw the 4870X2 away and get three GTX280s. Throw away the Phenom and get a pair of i7 960s!!!!111


>_>


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:51    Post subject:
Did you not notice the ">_>" ?

I was taking the piss, moron. You know, sarcasm?
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:52    Post subject:
sorry I am pissed of , didnt notice..bad day at work
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:53    Post subject:
Heh, don't sweat it. We all had those days Razz

Dude, your PC is *far* from weak. The game is just really REALLY badly ported, regardless of what fanboys say. Rockstar has a history of bad port-jobs.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:57    Post subject:
wrathamon wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
Everyone Ive seen who has a quad, least 4gb ram and a 4870x2 or a 260/280, game works perfectly.


r0fl


Its true. Ppl with high end systems arent having problems with the game. Rockstar even said the game was made for high end comps.

If your comp cant play it, buy it for the xbox or ps3...simple as that.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 10:59    Post subject:
IvanGrozny wrote:
I give up...Phenom X4 9950 , 4 GB DDR2 , HD 4870 X2, 2GB DDR5 , not "shitty rig" right????
And still game runs "like shit".


Is it a legal copy? If so, apply the patch and it should be fine. Cuz my game (legal copy) ran crappy to until the patch came out. Since the patch, game runs fine.

As for the GTX280....its commonly known the 4870x2 is better...its the best card available...the 2nd best is the 280....


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Heh, don't sweat it. We all had those days Razz

Dude, your PC is *far* from weak. The game is just really REALLY badly ported, regardless of what fanboys say. Rockstar has a history of bad port-jobs.


fanboys...Rolling Eyes

Dont take my word for it. Go to the GTAForums yourself and read what other ppl have wrote and read what ROCKSTAR ITSELF has wrote....

Im not saying its perfect, it does need to be optimized alot....but it does run fine for some ppl.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:16    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Heh, don't sweat it. We all had those days Razz

Dude, your PC is *far* from weak. The game is just really REALLY badly ported, regardless of what fanboys say. Rockstar has a history of bad port-jobs.


fanboys...Rolling Eyes

Dont take my word for it. Go to the GTAForums yourself and read what other ppl have wrote and read what ROCKSTAR ITSELF has wrote....

Im not saying its perfect, it does need to be optimized alot....but it does run fine for some ppl.


"some ppl" Can you count them on one hand?

I don't see the logic.. it either is or isn't a bad port and a lot of ppl including me say it is.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:19    Post subject:
I've been on those forums .. and I've seen the angry, angry backlash from gamers who have great machines yet can't run it. I know what Rockstar said "You can't play our game unless you have bought PC components back from the future" And I dismissed it as a crock of shit.

I earlier likened Crysis to this - and I take it all back. Crysis' LOOKS demand the kind of hardware it does -- this, on the other hand, has absolutely *nothing* to show the kind of sysreqs it demands. Those that bleat on about "background stuff you can't see" are just sad, pathetic, little boys desperately trying to justifiy the wet-dreams they have about Cockstar and the appalling ports the company is FAMED for.

So yeah, if you have a BLEEDING EDGE machine, then you can expect 25-35 frames per second on average. If you have anything lower, then you can expect insufferable framerate, random crashes, experience-killing hitches and a multitude of general bugs and nonsense.

Disagree all you want, I couldn't really give a toss TBH.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:29    Post subject:
Yes it runs 'fine' for some people. Hell, its plenty playable if you ran everything on low.

BUT THAT SIR IS NOT THE POINT.

The point is that if a high end machine can expect around 20-30fps with settings at 25% of the slider, then the game is a crappy port.

Also explain this 'background' things for me. Since as far as drawing objects is concerned, the game only draws objects in the direction you're facing.

Turn around, what do you see? Why, objects being drawn. Turn back to where you were facing, what do you see? Why the objects that were there but are now being redrawn.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:30    Post subject:
i bought it and it runs really well on my computer after the patch

C2D 3,4 GHZ (no Quad!!)
2GB RAM
8800GTS
WinXP 32bit
XiFi-SB

1280x1024
8AF
Medium Textures
Shadows 3
the rest at 50%

In the city i have around 30-40fps. In the night about 30-35fps. With rain and fog (worst case) i have around 20-30fps

Thats absolut okay for my computer. GTA4 has so many physik and the dynamic light/Shadowsystem ist really awesome (there is absolut NO static light.. all is dynamic)

i never saw a game that was so much detailed and had such a breathening living world - there is no game you can compare to GTA4 in terms of a living city..

The problem is, that this "living" need really much harware.. the traffic, the physics for cars, npcs, wind, ..., the dynamic lightning and shadowsystem,...


AKofC wrote:
Yes it runs 'fine' for some people. Hell, its plenty playable if you ran everything on low.

BUT THAT SIR IS NOT THE POINT.

The point is that if a high end machine can expect around 20-30fps with settings at 25% of the slider, then the game is a crappy port.


Thats not right. With a quad or triblecore CPU and a decent graphiccard like 8800gts or better, you get allways over 30fps if you have set the detailsettings around 50%!

AKofC wrote:

Also explain this 'background' things for me. Since as far as drawing objects is concerned, the game only draws objects in the direction you're facing.

Turn around, what do you see? Why, objects being drawn. Turn back to where you were facing, what do you see? Why the objects that were there but are now being redrawn.

yeah because if anything would allways be drawn at any time.. you would have.. 1fps?..

This system is called "streaming". You cant load the complete world into the memory.. thats not possible.. that would need perhaps 50GB of RAM.. do you have this? I think no Wink

All games with an open World are streaming the "world" and the textures.. there is no other way to get such an huge world working with playable fps!


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:30    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Heh, don't sweat it. We all had those days Razz

Dude, your PC is *far* from weak. The game is just really REALLY badly ported, regardless of what fanboys say. Rockstar has a history of bad port-jobs.


fanboys...Rolling Eyes

Dont take my word for it. Go to the GTAForums yourself and read what other ppl have wrote and read what ROCKSTAR ITSELF has wrote....

Im not saying its perfect, it does need to be optimized alot....but it does run fine for some ppl.


"some ppl" Can you count them on one hand?

I don't see the logic.. it either is or isn't a bad port and a lot of ppl including me say it is.


Its alot more than ppl you can "count on one hand".

But anyway, the point is moot. Either it plays well for you or doesnt. Simple as that.
And considering within 2 patches, the game will be fixed (even tho it should have been released perfectly, that was a dumb move on Rockstar's part) its gunna be fine for alot more ppl with medium end systems.

Thats why this is a game to buy (even if you do it after the next 2 patches), not pirate.

But like I said, it either plays well for you or not. If not, that sucks and rockstar is working on it as they dont want to loose their PC fanbase.

But they should have delayed the release and optimized it completely and such before releasing it thus requiring patches to get the game up to par for the majority of ppl.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 11:31    Post subject:
Had a nice view in this game once. All streets and buildings disappeared so i had cars seemingly flying to the moon. Each car had its light... it was beautiful!


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