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ah nice, eve online on one screen, gta 4 window mode on other hehehe what a nice evening i got.
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dl0rd
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:12 Post subject: |
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| DarkPassenger wrote: | | xtralong wrote: | JBeckman do u know anything where can we remove shadows? or its impossible?
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In the graphics options menu. Set Shadow Density to 0. |
This doesn't remove the shadows...
Chris /P4 3,2Ghz/2Gb RAM 533Mhz/8600GT 256Mb/
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:14 Post subject: |
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| dl0rd wrote: | | DarkPassenger wrote: | | xtralong wrote: | JBeckman do u know anything where can we remove shadows? or its impossible?
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In the graphics options menu. Set Shadow Density to 0. |
This doesn't remove the shadows... |
It removes most of them.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:14 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | This doesn't remove the shadows...
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u have still shadows with the razor crack? so maybe it's just a bug. wait for the patch
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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Is there an ETA on the patch ?
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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Disabling shadows completely is impossible, atleast without heavy alterations to certain files as there's nothing about shadows in the two files visualsettings.dat and visualsettings.xls
There's a value for shadows for what seems to be vegetation but it doesn't affect the main shadow type during daytime which seems to come from the sun.
Shader editing might help but the engine is pretty unique in how it works from how I see it atleast.
(Based mostly on the IGN interview linked to previously.)
Speaking of visualsettings.dat
misc.BloomIntensityClamp.HD 10
misc.BloomIntensityClamp.SD 10.00
The above two values control bloom strength, file can be edited in notepad but do read the thread I linked to previously or use the loader as the game won't load modified files (Some file check protection, can't say much about it as I don't really understand it all that well, the gta forums has a bit of info though.)
Increasing it further strengthens bloom and decreasing it lowers the effect, to be honest I saw a very small fluctuation in framerate so I don't think it would do much for performance.
(Hard to explain but think of it as a lightbulb, you can control the strength of the light but it's still "on" even if you dim it, perhaps different with lower-end hardware.)
misc.DOFBlurMultiplier.HD 1
misc.DOFBlurMultiplier.SD 0.5
These two control the DoF strength, mostly visible when hitting the "p" key and I found that increasing them nearly "embossed" the distant buildings as seen by the screen I posted around page 21 of this thread.
(There are other values for blur and depth of field as well though, needs more tweaking.)
As for the crack increasing performance I doubt it would do anything, perhaps possible if something disabled the overlay from Windows: Live but it's pretty well integrated in the game and can't really be removed. (Might be similar for the Social Club application.)
Disabling the built in video editor from the option menu once in the actual game might also help performance a bit. 
Bit technical and obviously I don't fully understand everything about the game or how certain parts of it works, better to read the editing threads on the gta forums and similar as there's quite a bit of activity there.
EDIT: Patch is being tested by Microsoft at the moment (Also based on a recent Rockstar interview posted previously.) so it might be released early next week. (This monday to friday that is, I guess it'll be released fairly soon though.)
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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| DarkPassenger wrote: | | xtralong wrote: | JBeckman do u know anything where can we remove shadows? or its impossible?
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In the graphics options menu. Set Shadow Density to 0. |
its the same, still there! ;]
''The mind and body must be subjected to extreme stimulus, by means of drugs and music.'' - Hunter S. Thompson
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:17 Post subject: |
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| xtralong wrote: | | DarkPassenger wrote: | | xtralong wrote: | JBeckman do u know anything where can we remove shadows? or its impossible?
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In the graphics options menu. Set Shadow Density to 0. |
its the same, still there! ;] |
It's not the same. Check shadows while you do it. Most of them disappear when you set it to 0.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:20 Post subject: |
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yes i know. But i really want to remove it all, my gpu (1950PRo) can't handle it! :X
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dl0rd
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:21 Post subject: |
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| mails wrote: | | Quote: | This doesn't remove the shadows...
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u have still shadows with the razor crack? so maybe it's just a bug. wait for the patch |
They said in an interview, that there is no option to shut down every shadow...
Chris /P4 3,2Ghz/2Gb RAM 533Mhz/8600GT 256Mb/
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:23 Post subject: |
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Well the developers did admit that certain video cards had problems with the game, notably the 7xxx serie from NVIDIA (Mostly fixed by 180.84 drivers but from what I've read the GX2 card still has problems and there's some minor issues remaining.) and the 1xxx serie from ATI (Cat 8.12 might help but I'd guess a specific hotfix released afterwards would be better or Cat 9.1)
EDIT:
Link
(Rockstar studios support website, GTA 4 section.)
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:26 Post subject: |
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Here the fed0r loader and the Razor crack are pretty equal for my fps. I got the following, which I think is pretty 'ok' after all these complaints.
Statistics
Average FPS: 43.35
Duration: 36.93 sec
CPU Usage: 97%
System memory usage: 69%
Video memory usage: 98%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: High
View Distance: 22
Detail Distance: 22
Hardware
Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate
Service Pack 1
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Luidsprekers (C-Media Oxygen HD Audio Device)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 3.30GHz
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:26 Post subject: |
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does the ammo counter still vanish using 180.84 drivers with the razor crack ?
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dl0rd
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:28 Post subject: |
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| BloodAngel wrote: | | does the ammo counter still vanish using 180.84 drivers with the razor crack ? |
Not here.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:30 Post subject: |
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which better crack or the loader whe knows that? i think the loader its better for patching.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:31 Post subject: |
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Whar exactly does the letter "P" do? i just notice the image blury...
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:32 Post subject: |
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| BloodAngel wrote: | | does the ammo counter still vanish using 180.84 drivers with the razor crack ? |
It never vanished for me with the loader and it doesn't with razor.
It adds horrible blur indeed Golf
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Gormadok
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:32 Post subject: |
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LONG LIVE THE KING - RAZOR FOREVER
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dl0rd
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:36 Post subject: |
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A stupid question: Medium Textures correspond to the default Xbox360 settings?
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:49 Post subject: |
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Yo, JBeckman...
You think its possible to use Shaders from another GFX card on a 8 series and get more FPS ???
Dont know about this, just thinking...
Also, the game needs to terminate Bloom totally in order to be fully free of that shit...
Yes, you can turn Bloom to 0 and I get a higher FPS, with higher GFX, so its not all a waste...
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:51 Post subject: |
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| NecroViolator wrote: | Yo, JBeckman...
You think its possible to use Shaders from another GFX card on a 8 series and get more FPS ???
Dont know about this, just thinking...
Also, the game needs to terminate Bloom totally in order to be fully free of that shit...
Yes, you can turn Bloom to 0 and I get a higher FPS, with higher GFX, so its not all a waste... |
how did you turn bloom to 0 ?
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 18:59 Post subject: |
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where? ty
''The mind and body must be subjected to extreme stimulus, by means of drugs and music.'' - Hunter S. Thompson
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 19:03 Post subject: |
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Isn't the razor one also just a loader?
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 19:04 Post subject: |
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| tristantj wrote: | | Isn't the razor one also just a loader? |
Yep, I think it's similar to one that was made by Fedor.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 19:14 Post subject: |
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i want to know what the razor.dll does.
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