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anybody know where marc is ..cant find him...quest details suck
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 22:11 Post subject: |
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Can you play it in Dx10 ou or is just dx9?
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 06:40 Post subject: |
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Based on the INI file the engine was first built around DX8 and then changed to DX9.b and finally DX9.c (Shader model 3.0 and all that) so no, no DX10 support.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 13:42 Post subject: |
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A 2nd Patch is available, fixing the problem with marc when you`ve got Theodors Artefact Quest, as well as fixing some other minor issues. The patch must be applied to a Forsaken Gods Version with Release Patch already installed. Savegames that were made with FSG + Release Patch remain working.
Link:
http://snorre.jowood.de/g3fsg/Setup_English106.exe
I really, really, hate non-retroactive patches, they should be banned by Haag 
Previous patch http://snorre.jowood.de/g3fsg/Setup_English.exe 
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 19:42 Post subject: |
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Confused:
So after installing the -FLT release patching to the included 1.1 you patch with 1.0x patches?
And is the 1.06 all-in-one so it can be applied directly to -FLT without 1.1?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 09:54 Post subject: |
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Gothic_3_Forsaken_Gods_PROPER-PROCYON
-We think retail quality is the best
if this is proper retail, what was the FTL release?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 11:20 Post subject: |
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flt release is uncracked atleast for me as it wants to activate
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 11:30 Post subject: |
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anyone wants to shed some light on what is proper in procyon Rls?
are they trying to indicate that FLT rls is not retail ?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 11:54 Post subject: |
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procyon rls works very good,no more stuttering for me and a big framerate increase
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 12:12 Post subject: |
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If Fairlights version tried to activate when running it then it was the DL edition just put in a scene release and not a "homemade" p2p release.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 12:44 Post subject: |
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Technically download editions = non-retail = nuke
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 14:04 Post subject: |
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so FLT rls is the download Edition and it is bigger by ~1 G , is this due to more languages or what ?
also any one confirms about procyon release being more stable or increased frame rate ?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 14:51 Post subject: |
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| Ancient78 wrote: | so FLT rls is the download Edition and it is bigger by ~1 G , is this due to more languages or what ?
also any one confirms about procyon release being more stable or increased frame rate ? |
bull crap ... still shitty performance and shitty graphical bugs ... now i know my video card isn't really that powerful any more ( 8600 GTS ) but come on .. there are better looking games out there which run beautifully on my rig ...
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 15:20 Post subject: |
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| Ancient78 wrote: | so FLT rls is the download Edition and it is bigger by ~1 G , is this due to more languages or what ?
also any one confirms about procyon release being more stable or increased frame rate ? |
The only possibility could be that download is protected with activemark + using active mark virtual file container for some data or securom online. dunno what flt has. restis retail and buggy and shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 15:52 Post subject: |
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DL edition is English/German with both text and voice support for the respective languages (One of them is choosen during installation but you can use both and switch via INI editing, text works for all editions as it's just a small file.) whereas the retail edition appears to only have one or the other.
(Ie the German copy contains only German speech while the English retail copy only contains English voice but they're only about 580MB each.)
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 17:03 Post subject: |
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So if you have both forsaken and the original installed is the world 70% smaller? Or is that just when you have forsaken installed?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 17:05 Post subject: |
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its like having 2 different games instaled, why's that so hard to understand
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 17:34 Post subject: |
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| Vikerness wrote: | | its like having 2 different games instaled, why's that so hard to understand |
Its not hard to understand. I realize Forsaken CAN be played as a standalone, i wanted to know if it can ALSO be an addon.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 18:27 Post subject: |
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It can't, still I believe you can port G3 to use the new engine features by moving the PAK files around, ofcourse the compression is updated a bit and trying to unpack those archives will give a few errors so you can't see most of the new files which makes it difficult to grab any needed files for the updated engine. (The "Core" files so to speak like the HUD or lighting or similar, looks like there are quite a few of those files but I wouldn't be able to explain them properly so I can't give a good answer.)
Will have to try this and see what happens as the benefits are very tempting.
(Proper AA, better and more advanced shaders, somewhat more optimized.)
Ofcourse it's also possible that CP 1.7 will take a few of these enhancement and add it to the original game but it's hard to say. (Same publisher but different developer and the CP team is pretty much finished so don't expect them to work on "Forsaken Gods" though hopefully Trinne or whatever the studio is called will keep supporting the title enough to eliminate most remaining bugs despite a rushed release, depends on how far Jowood is willing to go with support as it costs a bit.)
EDIT: Won't work, perhaps due to the different compressions of those archives.
(Not that it makes much of a difference, was fun to test.)
EDIT: Seems I used old versions of those unpackers, these newest ones fair a bit better.
http://www.bendlins.de/nico/gothic3/
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 21:51 Post subject: |
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the game hangs about every 3 secs , its totally unplayable on a e8400 9800 gt and 3 ghz of ram wtf :S who said it had the same performance as the original gothic 3 ?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 21:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 21:58 Post subject: |
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That's really fast RAM. You using DDR5?
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 00:30 Post subject: |
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It's better after two patches, still some items remain that you can't pick up (someone's hammer in the arena) left from quests long gone, with a bit of luck maybe one can actually finish the game. I don't understand why they removed the trespassing into people's houses and stealing that was a very cool Gothic feature, now you can enter any house and steal all the stuff and open any chest like I enter a bar and pick up a couple of expensive swords then sell it to a trader in that same bar it's ridiculous, I didn't sneak or anything.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 01:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 07:25 Post subject: |
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Stealing is a bit hit-and-miss at the moment, taking the weapons in Sildens bar doesn't count as stealing but taking the items on the table next to it will make everyone hostile.
(Especially the misnamed It_Fake_Cup_Gold and It_Fake_Cup_Silver items.)
Similarly taking something out of the house the opposite of the cow farm (Those named cows.) will count as stealing whereas stealing armor and weapons from smithy's and such won't really cause any problems.
(Ofcourse just as in the original you can steal anything if noone sees you but I don't think the consequences are as severe in the addon as they where in G3 as NPC's doesn't seem to notice missing items anymore.)
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well you know what i was trying to say, i think 
it's slow 800 mhz ddr2 memory 
