Gothic 3 Forsaken Gods
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 19:18    Post subject:
Some of the beta testers weren't happy about the state of the game so now a patch has been released, not a official one but still fixes a few issues.

http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=496515

http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=496705
(This is the actual info and download link for the patch)
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twobells
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 19:42    Post subject: Forsaken Gods English Release Out
Yup, English version available as a download from Jowood right now:


http://boutique.gamesplanet.com/campagne/boutique.html?partenaire=33&jeu=gothic3FG&affilie


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 19:44    Post subject:
You can also buy from Jowood directly.
http://jowood.gamesplanet.com/US/produit.html?product_id=981&category_id=31
(Retail German release wasn't protected so in case of any DRM protection on the English download edition one could just copy/paste the EXE, might be possible we'll see a P2P release or whatever those are called due to this, English and German version do appear to use different names for the EXE though but that shouldn't matter.)
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twobells
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 19:51    Post subject:
Hey JBeckman

You know if the English version has English speech or is it all subs?

If its just subs I might as well just grab the german version and edit the .ini to invoke the English subs.....

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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 19:57    Post subject:
the german version has english texts..only the audio is german
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 20:23    Post subject:
I don't have the English version but it should have both audio and text in English, movies for example aren't subtitled so it has to contain both. (More or less it'll be like it was with the Gothic 3 title.)
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 21:03    Post subject:
I have English download version , its 600 mb bigger then german, will install it later

P.S. Works great with german exe, those files are the same build, but english is protected with securom activation


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 21:30    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Here:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=7761946&#post7761946

Now compare that with the map in G3 and you'll see why this game is shorter.

They also forgot to delete certain content and references so you'll find everything from G3 in this addon aside from certain NPC's (Xardas is still referenced in the console but not in the game, Lee is in Nordmar and Milten is in the desert, use the "goto console command if you feel like exploring but there's not much there.)

Some item descriptions and the appearance of the new items are a bit odd as well.

Combat is more or less the same aside from the inclusion of the stamina system.

Ok game but not much else, bridges the story between G3 and G4.


This doesn't make any sense. How is this an expansion? You install this expansion pack and it then eliminates most of the original game?
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 22:26    Post subject:
damn no english scene release yet...wtf...
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twobells
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 00:33    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
damn no english scene release yet...wtf...


same with Hired Guns: Jagged Edge...

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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 04:04    Post subject:
The game is NOT a expansion pack, it's totally stand-alone and doesn't touch the original game. Smile

Patch:
http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&file_id=353
(German version.)

(This is different from the previous unofficial patch that only fixed some minor things here and there and also included a huge 138 MB altered credits.bik file)
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twobells
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 13:50    Post subject: TB Moans
I don't get it, groups release the biggest load of shite every second of the day [including My First Pony] yet as soon as a anticipated rpg from a well-known developer comes along no-one cracks it days after official release.

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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 14:12    Post subject:
twobells, thats maybe because the shittier games have easier-to-crack or no protection at all.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 14:51    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
twobells, thats maybe because the shittier games have easier-to-crack or no protection at all.


Sweep nods his fluffy head in agreement.


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 14:57    Post subject:
You are speaking of this game right?

Because the retail version is unprotected while the English download version which I now own used SecuROM online verification but removing Paul.dll and changing the EXE worked just fine, also worked the patch into the game though some translation changes relating to the German localization won't take effect as it doesn't cover the English localization plus the main menu returned to the German version due to how the patch updates certain archives, will just re-apply the English patch once it's released but the annoying thing about this engine is that several of the files touched aren't affected by a current savegame as it stores a few variables so a new game will be required to gain all advantages and fixes.

Nameless has become quite a patriot as well and is hell-bent on taking back the country or uniting it, pretty noticeable in conversations as he's no longer as "neutral" as in the previous Gothic titles and now has a clear goal for himself.

Speaking of conversations several VO's remain from G3 so certain NPC's will speak one voice for new lines and another for old lines including Nameless himself.

Some quests are a bit crazy as well like convincing a crazy bird-man to move his flock from a certain NPC's house (Ugliest and buggiest sea-gulls ever, climb up to the roof of that house if you want a closer look.) and he didn't care at all that I killed all his birds after I resolved the incident as a form of payback.

Armor and weapons are flashy as well or rather the new ones are, older items still exist though and the descriptions are as messed up as in the original (Unpatched) game.

As a example I'll see if I can post a few screens of these oddities.

Crazy bird person.

(One of the most annoying voices in the game so far, especially that line.)

Mr. Morality.

(Quest name is "Family tells the playerr about the miners" and yes it was spelled that way)
(Update: Bird person might be related as the family consists of a mother a father and two extremely fat brothers.)

Another example from a conversation.


EDIT: Two weapons and one armor suit with interesting descriptions.


EDIT:
Game is OK actually but needs more work, hopefully Jowood will let the team work with patches and such without interfering any more (They set the release date and the game had to be done by then which is why a bit of content such as the other continents are gone, it's also why despite four weeks of intense testing several bugs that were reported from that were still in the game, first patch does fix quite a bit but more work is needed, sadly the game will only be a bit above average at best.)

Seeing as Jowood is doing the same with Spellbound and Gothic 4 I don't have high hopes but perhaps they can pull it of somehow. (Check the manual in PDF form in the game install dir or on the disc, says Arcania - Coming Winter 2009 so a deadline has already been set and this is more work than a simple expansion seeing as it's totally new with a new game engine and everything.)


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 15:12    Post subject:
So basically it's a quick compilation of old and new content? A patch of some sorts which adds some new content? I don't know why I expected a quality release from Jowood after all these years of unfinished releases Sad . If this game is what it seems like, I've lost all hope for Gothic 4.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 15:55    Post subject:
This game is an abomination that should never have been released. It feels so unfinished and the voices changes all the time, the fps still drops like the old gothic 3 in some situations. It has no polish and feels like it's been made by people with no vision at all for their product.
It's just a mish mash of all sorts of wierd stuff thrown together trying to make a game with a general guideline for the mainquest.
They've wrongly tried to make it into an 'epic' rpg, that is not what gothic are in the sense that all the previous games you've done what you had to do, here it seems you do just because you can. Which seems very out of 'character' for the nameless hero.
Also why the hell did they change the voiceactor for the nameless hero, the new one is crap.


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 17:21    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:

Mr. Morality.
 Spoiler:
 



Hehe, I like this guy, he'd make a good hump-mod Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 20:33    Post subject:
Man, Gothic3 is good, sadly the controls and interface are very hard to eat, that's the reason I have it installed for one year and never play it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2008 22:00    Post subject:
crap crap crap....still no release or sign of any release,i mean the english one
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 08:06    Post subject:
English patch.
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=497699

By the way aside from a few localization differences (Main menu splash screen for example.) there are no major differences between the English and German version aside from the voice files.

Both voice files are included in the download edition by the way which is why it's 500 or so MB bigger.
(EXE file is localized as well, if you want to apply the English patch to the German version for some reason, perhaps to get the English main menu you just need to change the name of the Exe to "Gothic III Forsaken Gods.exe")

(Best to put it in a temp folder and do a blank patch and then copy and compare files so you know what you overwrite.)


EDIT: Oh and as I mentioned, unless you already run the German patch you will most likely need to restart, most likely the game will still work with existing saves but not many of the changes will take effect due to how the game engine or rather the save system works.

EDIT: Oh right one more thing, this patch is based on the Disc version of the game which is unprotected so it also removes the protection from the download edition.
(Just delete Paul.dll - optional but the file is no longer useful.)

EDIT: Compared German patch to the English one, patches the same files aside from the updates to the voice files and EXE name so it's compatible with either edition.
(As mentioned they're pretty much identical.)

EDIT: One of the guards in Geldern has a beard you can pick up.
(The one with the halberd, will post screens.)



EDIT: By some idiotic design the "Crown of Adannos" is located inside the mine in Geldern.
(It was destroyed in G3 to reach the ending that G3:Addon - Forsaken Gods - follows.)

Oddly named miner.


The crown itself.

(Was a bunch of other stuff there as well but I already took those.)

EDIT: One of the generic "Trader" NPC's in Geldern sells some of the best armor in the game.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 10:48    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
twobells, thats maybe because the shittier games have easier-to-crack or no protection at all.


-=[ ProtectionID v0.6.0.0 BETA XMAS 2007 PREVIEW]=-
(c) CDKiLLER & TippeX
Build 12/24/07-16:18:13
Ready...
Scanning -> C:\Documents and Settings\damador\Desktop\Setup_English\Gothic_III_Forsaken_Gods.exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 229376 (038000h) Byte(s)
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.907 Seconds


unpacked english patch - no protection
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 14:56    Post subject:
damador. wrote:
Lutzifer wrote:
twobells, thats maybe because the shittier games have easier-to-crack or no protection at all.


-=[ ProtectionID v0.6.0.0 BETA XMAS 2007 PREVIEW]=-
(c) CDKiLLER & TippeX
Build 12/24/07-16:18:13
Ready...
Scanning -> C:\Documents and Settings\damador\Desktop\Setup_English\Gothic_III_Forsaken_Gods.exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 229376 (038000h) Byte(s)
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.907 Seconds


unpacked english patch - no protection



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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 21:25    Post subject:
there's something funny with this game..no sign of it not even on the public trackers,a clone or something
its like the game hasnt been releases or it doesnt exist
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 21:37    Post subject:
Just because ProtectionID found nothing, it doesn't mean it's unprotected. Maybe something custom or online activation.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 21:44    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
So basically it's a quick compilation of old and new content? A patch of some sorts which adds some new content? I don't know why I expected a quality release from Jowood after all these years of unfinished releases Sad . If this game is what it seems like, I've lost all hope for Gothic 4.


Gothic 4 is going to be developed by a different developer. Piranha Bytes no more but Jowood is publishing it again. Spellbound Studios is going to be the developer for Gothic 4.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 21:55    Post subject:
They made the great Desperados game, and crappy sequel, as well as the Robin Hood game, they excelled at 2D but failed at 3D hopefully they learned something.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 22:07    Post subject:
tranx wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
So basically it's a quick compilation of old and new content? A patch of some sorts which adds some new content? I don't know why I expected a quality release from Jowood after all these years of unfinished releases Sad . If this game is what it seems like, I've lost all hope for Gothic 4.


Gothic 4 is going to be developed by a different developer. Piranha Bytes no more but Jowood is publishing it again. Spellbound Studios is going to be the developer for Gothic 4.

I know, but Jowood is infamous for their unfinished products. When this one was announced they said they would set things straigth, this was going to bring back trust in the Gothic games back again before Gothic 4 is released, but as it turns out it's just another hasty product. So that's why i lost all hope.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 22:39    Post subject:
just when i was losing hope, tl makes my day happier Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2008 23:57    Post subject:
what about a crack for the already released patch.. Smile
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