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Support81
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 Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 19:18 Post subject: Japan as a military power? |
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Playing Red Alert 3 got me thinking.
Right now Japan has in its national constitution that it will only engage in war as a matter of domestic defence. So it will probably not evolve a big military any time soon.
But could it happen? Could Japan be one of the most advanced military powers in the world? Japan is far more advanced in mot civilian techs and other things than any other country.
So could it happen? Could we see a Japan with the most advanced military ever if they wanted?
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 19:34 Post subject: |
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playing gta4 got me thinking.
right now there isn't any superman-like dude who does massacre in new york
but could it happen? could one russian be one of the most craziest man in the world?
so could it happen? could we see some russian with most weapons if he wanted?
yes
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 20:08 Post subject: |
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Let Japan get its sovereignty back first, then we can talk about it being a military power.
Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 20:15 Post subject: |
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Military technology is useless without industrial infrastructure.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 22:22 Post subject: Re: Japan as a military power? |
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| Support81 wrote: | Playing Red Alert 3 got me thinking.
Right now Japan has in its national constitution that it will only engage in war as a matter of domestic defence. So it will probably not evolve a big military any time soon.
But could it happen? Could Japan be one of the most advanced military powers in the world? Japan is far more advanced in mot civilian techs and other things than any other country.
So could it happen? Could we see a Japan with the most advanced military ever if they wanted? |
no
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 23:14 Post subject: Re: Japan as a military power? |
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| Support81 wrote: | Playing Red Alert 3 got me thinking.
Right now Japan has in its national constitution that it will only engage in war as a matter of domestic defence. So it will probably not evolve a big military any time soon.
But could it happen? Could Japan be one of the most advanced military powers in the world? Japan is far more advanced in mot civilian techs and other things than any other country.
So could it happen? Could we see a Japan with the most advanced military ever if they wanted? |
It will never happen. They just don't have the air force to compete with the likes of even China - Nor do they have the manpower to support a very large air force to begin with.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2008 23:38 Post subject: |
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How the fuck do they not have the manpower for an airforce? I mean, for a conventional army with infantry divisions, sure, ok you might have a point, but an airforce?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 06:13 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 09:52 Post subject: |
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Toyota Land Cruisers with mounted guns... that would have been cool ^^
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kalato
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 14:08 Post subject: |
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Check China out! They can blow sats from in space! We'll be all fucked then!
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 17:51 Post subject: |
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i d rather see them win the capitalist war first, hahahahah
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 19:05 Post subject: |
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With ~127.000.000 citizens, Im pretty sure they can find enough people to build a powerful army.
(Thats like 10-15 million less population than Russia..so imo I see no reason for having too few people to make an impressive airforce btw)
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 19:16 Post subject: |
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pearl harbour revisited? LOL
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 21:01 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | Let Japan get its sovereignty back first, then we can talk about it being a military power. |
Japan should maybe first make once and for all their mea culpa for their war crimes, to stop their officials yearly visit to war criminals cemeteries, their schools practicing historical revisionism, etc.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 21:14 Post subject: |
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| $en$i wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | Let Japan get its sovereignty back first, then we can talk about it being a military power. |
Japan should maybe first make once and for all their mea culpa for their war crimes, to stop their officials yearly visit to war criminals cemeteries, their schools practicing historical revisionism, etc. |
Fat chance that'll ever happen. An entire generation has been brought up on lies. No easy way to undo that...
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Ankh
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 21:47 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | $en$i wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | Let Japan get its sovereignty back first, then we can talk about it being a military power. |
Japan should maybe first make once and for all their mea culpa for their war crimes, to stop their officials yearly visit to war criminals cemeteries, their schools practicing historical revisionism, etc. |
Fat chance that'll ever happen. An entire generation has been brought up on lies. No easy way to undo that... |
Sure they could beg for forgivness... and why not let the americans do the same for all the warcrimes they've commited during the 20th century? And Great Britain?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 22:38 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | $en$i wrote: | | Japan should maybe first make once and for all their mea culpa for their war crimes, to stop their officials yearly visit to war criminals cemeteries, their schools practicing historical revisionism, etc. |
Fat chance that'll ever happen. An entire generation has been brought up on lies. No easy way to undo that... |
Sure they could beg for forgivness... and why not let the americans do the same for all the warcrimes they've commited during the 20th century? And Great Britain? |
Why would we beg? Begging is reserved for the losers.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 22:47 Post subject: |
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20th century, as in 1901 - 2000...
War crimes committed by Great Britain standing out as a beacon of inhumanity?
Give details or fucking wow * retarded * 1000 ...
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 22:52 Post subject: |
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12 beers, in terms of mental powers i'm retarded ffs!
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Nov 2008 00:08 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | How the fuck do they not have the manpower for an airforce? I mean, for a conventional army with infantry divisions, sure, ok you might have a point, but an airforce? |
Because they don't. You do realize that the USAF has about 350k people, correct? And that only 10k of those people AT MOST actually fly planes. We have about 6k planes. Only 2.5k are fighters. This means that it takes 350k people to support 10k worth of pilots. Thats a huge. (These are USAF numbers only. The navy, and marines are also flying many other planes. Their primary Air-to-Air fighter being the F-18, which is still better technology then what Japan has.)
So unless Japan starts up another draft and begins recruiting an absolute fuckton of people for their air force (Which they can't, as it's illegal for them to keep an air force larger then what they allready have) - They will never be able to compete.
Not to mention Japan's planes (As with the rest of the worlds) are no where near on par with the US's technology. We are currently the only country flying F-22's, and the only country flying the very few F-35's. BTW, the F-22 is a better air-to-air fighter then the F-35. (Last year during the yearly red flag trials, they pitted an overwhelming force of F-16/F-15's against -8- F-22's. The F-22's completely destroyed the 15/16's and they only lost 1 22. Considering that the rest of the world are basically flying 15/16's or planes that are about on par with the 18's - The F-22 fucking rapes everything.)
No, Japan will never become a major military player. If they attempt to - Their ass will be blown back to the stoneage.
"The thing denies your ability to put a weapons system on it, even when I can see it through the canopy," said RAAF Squadron Leader Stephen Chappell, F-15 exchange pilot in the 65th AS. "It's the most frustrated I've ever been."
""We [even] tried to overload them with numbers and failed," said Colonel Bruce. "It's humbling to fly against the F-22." This is a remarkable testimony because the Red Flag aggressor pilots are renowned for their skill and experience. Lt. Col. Dirk Smith, 94th Fighter Squadron commander, said the aggressor forces represent the most lethal threat friendly forces would ever face."
Red Flag puts these planes in a position they should never be in anyways. In real life, the F22 would blow any other plane out of the sky before they would ever get in a dogfight.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Nov 2008 01:15 Post subject: |
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i m getting so horny, when people from the u.s. show off their military power *drools*
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