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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:16 Post subject: |
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Quick saves have destoyed many games.
Takes away from the challenge. The qs system gets overused and it´s in a way a form of cheating.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:17 Post subject: |
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Quick save ruins gameplay in FPS-es... I turn into a real F5 whore -.-
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:20 Post subject: |
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Lol yeah, it´s almost like a mini game in itself, hitting that f5.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:35 Post subject: |
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bangalter wrote: | nexmenexme wrote: |
What do you mean worse graphics? I won't believe it until I see it and no, just higher res does not count, thats minimal difference. |
If you have a monster PC like I have the ofc the gfx are better.
Usually you get better LOD, draw distance, textures etc.
Not to say the 360 version is bad, because it isn't. |
Whats LOD? Better textures? I don't believe it until I see it.
So far all of the xbox 360 ports/multiplatforms I've played on PC didn't have any graphical advantage whatsoever over the xbox 360 version, the difference is minimal and is only in AA and resolution.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:37 Post subject: |
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Ragtag wrote: | There's nothing wrong with the controls. Don't blame the controls just because u suck at using it. If u wanna know what shitty controls is try Alone in the dark. |
Never said I sucked using them, I just prefer the PC controls, thus PC controls for me are better. Can't be that hard to understand?
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:40 Post subject: |
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^I think he was talking to the guy that said the controls are horrible.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 10:59 Post subject: |
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nexmenexme wrote: | bangalter wrote: | nexmenexme wrote: |
What do you mean worse graphics? I won't believe it until I see it and no, just higher res does not count, thats minimal difference. |
If you have a monster PC like I have the ofc the gfx are better.
Usually you get better LOD, draw distance, textures etc.
Not to say the 360 version is bad, because it isn't. |
Whats LOD? Better textures? I don't believe it until I see it.
So far all of the xbox 360 ports/multiplatforms I've played on PC didn't have any graphical advantage whatsoever over the xbox 360 version, the difference is minimal and is only in AA and resolution. |
LOD=Level of Detail (How fast the engine scales down objects complexity/textures at a distance)
Since the 360 has alot less memory (512Mb) than a good PC (1Gb vram/4Gb system ram) it has to stream everything in a smart way from the DVD which means cutting some corners.
Some developers take advantage of the huge amounts of ram and vram high end PC's have which results in higher rez textures etc.
But each to ones own.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:17 Post subject: |
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It also makes dev's lazy.
Hense in a lot of PC ports you find they have memory leaks. With the 360's RAM, they can actually take advantage of it a lot better than they can with a PC with the same kind of memory, as the RAM on the 360 is built into the motherboard, meaning it has a much higher bandwidth. This means they can empty it and fill it up again ALOT faster than on a PC.
The problem is the DVD drive. It's slow to read data (for todays standards) meaning that if the textures were too detailed, they'd take forever to stream into RAM. It's not held back by the RAM, it's the drive.
They really should have gone for a HD-DVD drive straight out of the box. It doesn't matter if it failed in the media war, they still would have used it in the games.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:23 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:32 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:33 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:43 Post subject: |
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So if the wii60 is real, and its out, why is there still [NR] in the topic name?
Just lazyness? or am i missing something important here? 
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 11:55 Post subject: |
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i have played about 15 min or so, i just love it so far
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Jenni
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 12:31 Post subject: |
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What I can't understand is the economy, I mean at the start they can buy a weeks worth of food for two of them for a week. Yet I make 10k in gold in a few mins doing blacksmithing.
Doesn't seem well thought out in my opinion.
Still, it's a great game.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 12:50 Post subject: |
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Mantra2k wrote: | It also makes dev's lazy.
Hense in a lot of PC ports you find they have memory leaks. With the 360's RAM, they can actually take advantage of it a lot better than they can with a PC with the same kind of memory, as the RAM on the 360 is built into the motherboard, meaning it has a much higher bandwidth. This means they can empty it and fill it up again ALOT faster than on a PC.
The problem is the DVD drive. It's slow to read data (for todays standards) meaning that if the textures were too detailed, they'd take forever to stream into RAM. It's not held back by the RAM, it's the drive.
They really should have gone for a HD-DVD drive straight out of the box. It doesn't matter if it failed in the media war, they still would have used it in the games. |
Well no.
360 memory bandwidth is 22.4GB/s to the system memory which is used for textures.
It's very high to the edram but that is only used for AA.
source: http://www.thexug.com/content/view/2222/191/
On the PC my video card the 4780 1Gb has 107Gb/s bandwidth to the vram which is used for textures.
So my video card has more than 4 times the bandwidth compared to the 360.
On the other hand the system memory in my PC (ddr2 1066Mhz) has 8.5Gb/s so if you have a video card with a small amount of memory your claim is valid.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 12:54 Post subject: |
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back to the game
i norm hate 360 games... but this is greattttttttttt
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 12:57 Post subject: |
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Please list all the demon doors / silver chests & silver key locations you come across btw., these buggers are very hard to find later if you first don't have enough keys / can't fulfill the demon door requirements.
Already forgot the earlier places I've seen em, but there's a silver key and a 15 key chest at Rookridge Inn.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 13:30 Post subject: |
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crsnwby wrote: | well thats it then its out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh no hang on....
no ones heard of it
the file name is WII
its uploading at shit speed
theres no nfo
have a guess... |
Please take foot... insert it firmly in your cock sucker.
And learn to wait until you know something for sure before you piss all over someone passing along info next time you little vermin. umm k?
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 13:33 Post subject: |
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s-b-l wrote: |
isn't it a beta or some shiet ? maybe not retail , old version of it ?>
i'm asking coz i don't wanna waste my verbatim  |
It receives the update for co-op when you start it up so guessing its retail
Anyone being bad first time round , done that in fable 1 so Gonna be a good guy this time round then replay as a cunt . Don't like the fact shops don't have individual items on the shelfs . Was a great way to make money in the first game
sabin1981 wrote: | but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 14:51 Post subject: |
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A few I've found so far:
Silver keys & chests
Spoiler: | 15 key chest: Rookridge Inn
10 key chest: Oakvale Cemetery
Silver Key locations:
Rookridge: behind the building near bridge
Rookridge Inn
Oakvale East
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Demon Doors
Spoiler: | Oakvale: show the door a marriage proposal
Rookridge: show the door enough dog tricks |
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 15:14 Post subject: |
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-=Cartoon=- wrote: | they were kids... changed economy ?  |
That's some inflation, I didn't know the game was set in Nigeria.

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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 15:33 Post subject: |
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wtf....... I burned it in ImageBurn in 2.4x speed and it says Mixed Media Disc?!
Any1 else got this problem?
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 15:38 Post subject: |
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Support81 wrote: | wtf....... I burned it in ImageBurn in 2.4x speed and it says Mixed Media Disc?!
Any1 else got this problem? |
did you use the .dvd or set the layerbreak to 1913760?
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 15:40 Post subject: |
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XHPrime wrote: | Support81 wrote: | wtf....... I burned it in ImageBurn in 2.4x speed and it says Mixed Media Disc?!
Any1 else got this problem? |
did you use the .dvd or set the layerbreak to 1913760? |
Which one are you supposed to use? Gonna burn this soon, so I don't wanna waste a disc.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2008 15:41 Post subject: |
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XHPrime wrote: | Support81 wrote: | wtf....... I burned it in ImageBurn in 2.4x speed and it says Mixed Media Disc?!
Any1 else got this problem? |
did you use the .dvd or set the layerbreak to 1913760? |
I burned it used the .dvd file.
How do i set the laybreak to that?
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