Half-Life 2 (c) Valve *RETAIL* - VENGEANCE
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Xman111




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2004 23:40    Post subject:
Kommando

If release group not make good crack - dont release! dont take peoples time for many hours to find good cracks, etc. Not testing! And release! So Stupid! Testing us - users Sad..

in future this online version VENGEANCE dont work what you say? what say many many people who download? Game updating from steam! Valve close update for this version of game and game stop working - in future you not install the game, steam need to update to install this version of game.........
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4 Door ITR




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2004 23:50    Post subject:
Xman111 wrote:
Kommando

If release group not make good crack - dont release! dont take peoples time for many hours to find good cracks, etc. Not testing! And release! So Stupid! Testing us - users Sad..

in future this online version VENGEANCE dont work what you say? what say many many people who download? Game updating from steam! Valve close update for this version of game and game stop working - in future you not install the game, steam need to update to install this version of game.........


It installs EXACTLY like retail, so how are they going to stop us from updating it ?
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FakeBitchKillah.inc




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2004 23:52    Post subject:
4 Door ITR wrote:
Xman111 wrote:
Kommando

If release group not make good crack - dont release! dont take peoples time for many hours to find good cracks, etc. Not testing! And release! So Stupid! Testing us - users Sad..

in future this online version VENGEANCE dont work what you say? what say many many people who download? Game updating from steam! Valve close update for this version of game and game stop working - in future you not install the game, steam need to update to install this version of game.........


It installs EXACTLY like retail, so how are they going to stop us from updating it ?


damn i like your avatar !!!
looks like my hamster if i piss him off !!!


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Kommando




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2004 23:52    Post subject:
Xman111 wrote:
Kommando

If release group not make good crack - dont release! dont take peoples time for many hours to find good cracks, etc. Not testing! And release! So Stupid! Testing us - users Sad..

in future this online version VENGEANCE dont work what you say? what say many many people who download? Game updating from steam! Valve close update for this version of game and game stop working - in future you not install the game, steam need to update to install this version of game.........


The game make a quick update of 10 seconds then you dont need to go online to play you dont need to be connected on STEAM to play the game and you dotn need to register so how do you want the game to stop working?????
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Xman111




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 00:04    Post subject:
Kommando

The game make a quick update of 10 seconds then you dont need to go online to play you dont need to be connected on STEAM to play the game and you dotn need to register so how do you want the game to stop working?????


Valve close steam update for this version of game or include check in next patch for steam and game stop working or install...

It installs EXACTLY like retail, so how are they going to stop us from updating it ?
Make offline crack , installer not need update from internet! Or already updated patch,files...

Game from Emporio+fix not need internet in install step and launch, not need stupid updates from steam.
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Phemo




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 00:38    Post subject:
Check the date of the files in SteamApps. You'll see that they're all dated 16th of November - meaning that nothing gets updated. After letting Steam update my legit HL2, the modified date of 'source engine.gcf' changed.

When you install the game, you have to start Steam up and nothing more. The game itself doesn't update - only Steam, after which you close it and run hl2install.exe. The update proceedure is perfectly normal for every copy of Steam - download it and try it yourself, you'll see it updates in exactly the same way.

In other words, Valve can't block anything because the game isn't getting updated, only Steam is, so short of blocking every other Steam user in the world off, there's nothing they can do about it Wink

meszrum wrote:

how will You explain this:

Code:
*OFFLINE INSTALLER NOTES*


    This is ONLY for people who did NOT have their internet connection

    active during the installation of Half-Life 2 and Steam.

    blah blah blah

?


I've not tried the offline installer myself so I can't comment on it. Check out what I said again - you need an Internet connection, you need to let Steam update the client and not the game, but you don't need a Steam account. Simple.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 00:46    Post subject:
Phemo wrote:
Check the date of the files in SteamApps. You'll see that they're all dated 16th of November - meaning that nothing gets updated. After letting Steam update my legit HL2, the modified date of 'source engine.gcf' changed.

When you install the game, you have to start Steam up and nothing more. The game itself doesn't update - only Steam, after which you close it and run hl2install.exe. The update proceedure is perfectly normal for every copy of Steam - download it and try it yourself, you'll see it updates in exactly the same way.

In other words, Valve can't block anything because the game isn't getting updated, only Steam is, so short of blocking every other Steam user in the world off, there's nothing they can do about it Wink



Finally someone who understand....i felt lonely here till you post Wink
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hoz




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 01:13    Post subject:
is there a way to activate cs:source which is included in this release?


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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 01:32    Post subject:
hoz wrote:
is there a way to activate cs:source which is included in this release?


CS Source is online so you need STEAM to run it and since this HL2 doesnt run under STEAM it will not work.....but why bother when EMPORiO released it already???
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 01:37    Post subject:
Exactly.
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31337




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 01:48    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Phemo wrote:
Check the date of the files in SteamApps. You'll see that they're all dated 16th of November - meaning that nothing gets updated. After letting Steam update my legit HL2, the modified date of 'source engine.gcf' changed.

When you install the game, you have to start Steam up and nothing more. The game itself doesn't update - only Steam, after which you close it and run hl2install.exe. The update proceedure is perfectly normal for every copy of Steam - download it and try it yourself, you'll see it updates in exactly the same way.

In other words, Valve can't block anything because the game isn't getting updated, only Steam is, so short of blocking every other Steam user in the world off, there's nothing they can do about it Wink



Finally someone who understand....i felt lonely here till you post Wink


Sure, they could've been a little more detailed with the installation instructions in the nfo, but they probably figured the average person trying to install the game would have an IQ level of 2 or higher...

I guess they were wrong. Very Happy

Mad respect and many THANKS to VENGEANCE for this truly amazing release!!
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Xman111




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 01:57    Post subject:
31337
Phemo

THE BEST VERSION OF ANY GAME - NOT ONLINE VERSION! NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE INTERNET!

IF POSSIBLE MAKE OFFLINE VERSION WHY THEY NOT MAKE?

Offline installer in single file = VENGEANCE folder on CD5

Game after launch (loading screen) connect to valve authentication servers QUESTION: WHY?
207.173.177.11
207.173.177.12



Stupid VENGEANCE!! Only need add or change this value in register default 0 value! And game not go in internet Very Happy They can make in installer this fix!
"OfflineAFS"=dword:00000001
"Offline"=dword:00000001

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Valve\Steam]
"Language"="english"
"SteamExe"="c:/program files/valve/steam/steam.exe"
"OfflineAFS"=dword:00000001
"Offline"=dword:00000001
"Skin"=""
"Rate"="10000"


I changed date in computer month in future and load savegames no AI problems and node all work ok!

I working on offline patch after game installed only need 30 mb files for updated steam files!
and after steam update this files renamed:

counter-strike source shared content.gcf - counter-strike source shared.gcf
counter-strike source base content.gcf - counter-strike source client.gcf
half-life 2 base content.gcf - half-life 2 content.gcf
base source shared.gcf - source engine.gcf
base source shared materials.gcf -source materials.gcf
base source shared models.gcf - source models.gcf
base source shared sounds.gcf - zsource sounds.gcf
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avirox




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 02:12    Post subject:
You are definately not from America..


fear the led zeppelin that was!
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 02:21    Post subject:
Ok I've read this whole thread but sorry I still don't understand this crap. Why do you have to be online when you install this release? Only because Steam wants to update itself? Ok but why do you have to update Steam if the Vengeance release doesn't even use Steam? Why does it matter if Steam gets updated or not?? Why is Steam even installed? That doesn't make sense.
And do you also need to be online when you run hl2install.exe? If yes why?? And what's different in the offline installer release?? The nfo says:
Quote:

*OFFLINE INSTALLER NOTES*

This is ONLY for people who did NOT have their internet connection
active during the installation of Half-Life 2 and Steam.

If you DID have your internet connection active while installing
Half-Life_2_Retail-VENGEANCE, which includes STEAM and the game itself,
then you can ignore this release.

Extract the files to anywhere on your HDD, and run hl2install.exe.
Presto! Smile

Run the game from the desktop shortcut! (and only the desktop shortcut)


This sounds like you never have to be online at all. So you don't need to let Steam update itself when you use this??

Wow this shit is really confusing. Way more confusing than the non-retail releases lol
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Xman111




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 02:25    Post subject:
You are definately not from America...

No i not from stupid america, i russian.. dont stupid people understand that i say, bad english i agree......
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mauro1970




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 02:30    Post subject:
Xman111 wrote:
You are definately not from America...

No i not from stupid america, i russian.. dont stupid people understand that i say, bad english i agree......


just shut the fuck up, you retard. Learn English first, then whine.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 04:06    Post subject:
mauro1970 wrote:
Xman111 wrote:
You are definately not from America...

No i not from stupid america, i russian.. dont stupid people understand that i say, bad english i agree......


just shut the fuck up, you retard. Learn English first, then whine.


Why dont you learn russian then....dont flame a guy who is trying hard to write in english without using a translator...ya some of his words doesnt make sense but we can clearly understand what he has to say.

Not all of us learned english at birth you know...i learned it while watching GI Joe, Transformers, He-Man and other cartoons when i was a kid.
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illz55




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 04:22    Post subject:
This release works fine offline and online. I've tried both methods. If it's not working for you, you are simply foolish, ignorant and/or stupid. From my testing, this game gives me a better framrate than any other version I have tried including Retail. Also, it installed perfectly fine, easily, and the crack "installer" worked fine as well (offline/online) and I've played the first few levels for fun (as I've already beaten the game twice).

The release when compared to the retail 5CD version is exactly the same until you apply the crack, so this is why it will not be/is not nuked...

And for some strange reason, after reading the .nfo and using some common knowledge and sense, this release was not confusing whatsoever. Also note that the EMPORiO Proper needed a fix for the HUD/AI/NODE/NCP problems and this one does not. Overall, this is less confusing. Now stop complaining, thank Vengeance in your mind and go play instead of spending too much time here...
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aidid
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 04:29    Post subject:
more problems? lol
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 04:30    Post subject:
illz55 wrote:
This release works fine offline and online. I've tried both methods. If it's not working for you, you are simply foolish, ignorant and/or stupid. From my testing, this game gives me a better framrate than any other version I have tried including Retail. Also, it installed perfectly fine, easily, and the crack "installer" worked fine as well (offline/online) and I've played the first few levels for fun (as I've already beaten the game twice).

The release when compared to the retail 5CD version is exactly the same until you apply the crack, so this is why it will not be/is not nuked...

And for some strange reason, after reading the .nfo and using some common knowledge and sense, this release was not confusing whatsoever. Also note that the EMPORiO Proper needed a fix for the HUD/AI/NODE/NCP problems and this one does not. Overall, this is less confusing. Now stop complaining, thank Vengeance in your mind and go play instead of spending too much time here...


I second that
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4 Door ITR




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 05:06    Post subject:
Can anyone confirm it crashes at the spot where you plug in the teleporter to send Alyx off?

And how the hell do I create gcf's?
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jaguar1




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 05:18    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
pallebrun wrote:
Exactly so you cant install it offline in other words Smile
You first have to update it online and THEN use the offline installer.
I think it's better to just stick with the emporio and various patches.


The game is different from EMPORiO...teh start menu is totally different, he is animated with sounds.

Well its a 10 seconds update...im pretty sure everybody can live with that Wink and just before people start asking...YOU DONT NEED TO BE CONNECTED STEAM TO PLAY THIS RELEASE AND YOU DONT NEED TO BE CONNECTED ON THE INTERNET TO PLAY THIS RELEASE Razz


I know exactly what you are talking about with the animated menus. I have the AHU release and if you want the animated start menu, just remove the -console in the command line and leave -steam intact. I am not too sure if EMPORiO works the same way.
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ajj




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 05:27    Post subject:
illz55 wrote:
This release works fine offline and online. I've tried both methods.

How can you make this to work in a computer without internet connection?
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:01    Post subject:
4 Door ITR wrote:
Can anyone confirm it crashes at the spot where you plug in the teleporter to send Alyx off?

And how the hell do I create gcf's?


I just did that part after reading your post and everything works fine. the GCF file is the file that contain everything from the game....like a big game zip so im not sure what you want to create though
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WaveRunner




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:28    Post subject:
ok,so lets sum up everything about this version:
is it working and worth downloading?????????


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generalnewbie




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:34    Post subject:
ok this is how i got the .. offline thing to work.. i installed it.. AND YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE CS SOURCE CAUSE its gay... and i didnt want it but i had to install it... then when it comes up with the update thing... it runs...
let it finish .. i setup a steam account...

then you get the offline files and run the exe.. it will copy alot of files..
works flawlessly
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:38    Post subject:
generalnewbie wrote:
ok this is how i got the .. offline thing to work.. i installed it.. AND YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE CS SOURCE CAUSE its gay... and i didnt want it but i had to install it... then when it comes up with the update thing... it runs...
let it finish .. i setup a steam account...

then you get the offline files and run the exe.. it will copy alot of files..
works flawlessly


No need to setup a STEAM account...just update STEAM and when the registering window popup just close it and run the patch.
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generalnewbie




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:41    Post subject: purchased it
i purchased it for only 37bucks... waiting for it in the mail figured i would try this release... only thing is i dont want cs source.. but its required to install that shit..!! i just wish i could try CS source since its installed....

Can i delete CS source or does HL2 need it to run?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:43    Post subject:
Man i just finished the game (yeah I'm slow but i cant sit and play all day) and i have not been this bored in ages :/
The only good thing in this game is the gravity guns, they fricking owns Smile
I would still rate it quite high even though I found it extremely booring because it is still a good game in most aspects, it's just not my thing from a funfactor point of view.

And by the way. I didn't see any speed differences at all and i tested it so it's not just me guessing Wink
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004 06:45    Post subject:
WaveRunner wrote:
ok,so lets sum up everything about this version:
is it working and worth downloading?????????


Yes it's working but no not really worth the download if you already got a patched emporio release.
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