Piracy is Keeping EndWar off the PC, says UbiSoft
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:00    Post subject:
Yea pirating is one thing. Trying to justify it with BS logic is even worse! You are stealing. If you are okay with stealing then keep pirating.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:03    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Who's trying to justifty it? The reason PC is dieing is because devs stopped making games worth buying, they port, they simplify it to be boring, they put no effort in anything, they make WWII games

Put it this way, if every developer treated their customers the way the witcher crew has, games would sell like it did.

try to argue all you want but it's the truth up and down the road.

all in all, UBI can fuck off, their just still soar they got boycotted to hell when they released chaos theory with star force, they haven't given a damn about PC gaming SINCE so why does this less educated "news" from them make a difference. OH IT WONT BE ON PC, it'd just been some shit fucking port anyways bugged to hell and make all the owners vote for a fucking patch anyways.



Ever heard of reading game reviews? But of course now you will have the pirates try to justify stealing by saying how game reviews are crap and they always lie about how good/bad a game is.

People who steal, trying to constantly justify how they are not really stealing because x or y. Now that is F**king funny.
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Ragtag




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:04    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Who's trying to justifty it? The reason PC is dieing is because devs stopped making games worth buying, they port, they simplify it to be boring, they put no effort in anything, they make WWII games

Put it this way, if every developer treated their customers the way the witcher crew has, games would sell like it did.

try to argue all you want but it's the truth up and down the road.

all in all, UBI can fuck off, their just still soar they got boycotted to hell when they released chaos theory with star force, they haven't given a damn about PC gaming SINCE so why does this less educated "news" from them make a difference. OH IT WONT BE ON PC, it'd just been some shit fucking port anyways bugged to hell and make all the owners vote for a fucking patch anyways.


Bullshit, if you didn't have the possibility to leech a game for free you would buy the games you want, period. What Ubisoft is doing is understandable. This is the reason that BIA:HH was delayed over 2 weeks. Piracy kills PC gaming. And the main point isn't what you think or i think. It's what the developers and distributors think. If this is the way they are gonna go then you can sit here and whine and tell them to go fuck'em self, You won't get the game any sooner anyways. And at the end who knows, maybe they choose to give a flying fuck about PC gamers. It's their choice and they set the rules. Now whine away mate Smile
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Rudee66




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:06    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
I´m getting tired of these shitty statements.


If you were a CEO of a gaming company would you not make the same decision given the facts? I bet a lot of people here would if it was their company.
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sway187




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:08    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Who's trying to justifty it? The reason PC is dieing is because devs stopped making games worth buying, they port, they simplify it to be boring, they put no effort in anything, they make WWII games

Put it this way, if every developer treated their customers the way the witcher crew has, games would sell like it did.

try to argue all you want but it's the truth up and down the road.

all in all, UBI can fuck off, their just still soar they got boycotted to hell when they released chaos theory with star force, they haven't given a damn about PC gaming SINCE so why does this less educated "news" from them make a difference. OH IT WONT BE ON PC, it'd just been some shit fucking port anyways bugged to hell and make all the owners vote for a fucking patch anyways.



ok so your telling me that if a game thats a PC exclusive and was absolutely amazing to play came out it would fly off the shelves? I don't think so.. most people would still warez it.

Go into any game store and have alook at the amount of people buying pc games then look at the people in the console section.

Alot of shops by me have a very limited pc section, a few dont even bother stocking them.

Only time people really go out there way to buy a worth while pc game is when they may want to play on-line.
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Ragtag




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:09    Post subject:
Rudee66 wrote:
Pey wrote:
I´m getting tired of these shitty statements.


If you were a CEO of a gaming company would you not make the same decision given the facts? I bet a lot of people here would if it was their company.


Of course. No one accepts that someone is stealing ones property no matter what it is.
I would be insanely pissed.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:10    Post subject:
[quote="Ragtag"]
SpykeZ wrote:


Put it this way, if every developer treated their customers the way the witcher crew has, games would sell like it did..


Right there you go trying to justify stealing games.
"WEll the developer didn't treat me right." or

"I didn't REALLY like the game even though I played it for a month, I mean the gfx weren't really UP to my standards" or

"I played the game to the end but I don't think it was a good game."

ALL VALID reasons to steal.
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Pey




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:11    Post subject:
I know, but developer and publisher or whoever wants to blame piracy is repeating the same old thing... they should at least change the speech.


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sway187




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:14    Post subject:
why should they?

its the "same old thing" thats killing the industry...
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:18    Post subject:
I'm with developers on this one. PC piracy is in fact ruining PC gaming.


Dude A: "Hey, Dude B, if you don't buy games soon there won't be any more games"
Dude B: "Haha yeah right, I don't care"

----- After a few years of more and more people not buying games a.k.a. PRESENT -----

Dude B: "WTF?!?! No games to play?? Only shitty console ports?? Delayed release dates for the said console ports with shitty or no support?? WTF!?!?!"
Dude A: "Duh"


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Ragtag




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:18    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
I know, but developer and publisher or whoever wants to blame piracy is repeating the same old thing... they should at least change the speech.


Of course they loose money. But not everyone that leeches would have bought the game. But thats not an excsuse or even a valid argument. They loose money and thats a fact. Claiming that "dev teams should be like CD projekt, The witcher" is also a load of crap. The witcher was pirated as hell. There is NO good argument for pirating games. It's about time that we gamers actually open our eyes and see the seriousnes in what we a re doing, because we are on our way to loose the biggest thing in entertainment since the movies.
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sway187




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:25    Post subject:
Wow didn't think i'd have so many people defending PC devs. Thought i'd be battling it out on my own Razz
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:26    Post subject:
I got a great idea for those who try to justify stealing games.

WHy don't you steal EVERYTHING you use? Steal that car, that tv, computer, etc.

Stealing clearly doesn't effect anything. I mean that car you stole has bad gas milage. The car maker should have made it better THAN maybe you would have bought it right?


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Rudee66




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:29    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
I know, but developer and publisher or whoever wants to blame piracy is repeating the same old thing... they should at least change the speech.


Why should they change the speech? The speech is a valid one and there is no reason to change it just for the sake of change.
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Pey




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:29    Post subject:
sway187 wrote:
why should they?

its the "same old thing" thats killing the industry...


Pirates are not gonna buy games because developers whine about piracy. They should use a different strategy, or a server side cd-key as mmo do. That´ll will be the future of pc gaming i´m afraid.


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Ragtag




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:31    Post subject:
sway187 wrote:
Wow didn't think i'd have so many people defending PC devs. Thought i'd be battling it out on my own Razz


Well, i'm one of them that likes to think that more and more gamers actually wants to support the PC gaming industry. Yeah, i leech games to but only the games i pre-order. I know what i like in games.But my poor escuse is that i just can't wait to release day to play it. I love gaming and i'm like a 5 year old on xmass eve every time i rip off the plastic on a new game, then smell the fresh ink of the manual while i install it. Its unbeatable Smile
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sway187




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:33    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
sway187 wrote:
why should they?

its the "same old thing" thats killing the industry...


Pirates are not gonna buy games because developers whine about piracy. They should use a different strategy, or a server side cd-key as mmo do. That´ll will be the future of pc gaming i´m afraid.



Ye Bingo!

i agree with you on the Internet based Cd key system ... like steam.

But even that cant stop PC piracy.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:33    Post subject:
Ragtag wrote:
sway187 wrote:
Wow didn't think i'd have so many people defending PC devs. Thought i'd be battling it out on my own Razz


Well, i'm one of them that likes to think that more and more gamers actually wants to support the PC gaming industry. Yeah, i leech games to but only the games i pre-order. I know what i like in games.But my poor escuse is that i just can't wait to release day to play it. I love gaming and i'm like a 5 year old on xmass eve every time i rip off the plastic on a new game, then smell the fresh ink of the manual while i install it. Its unbeatable Smile


Yea I am in the same boat. I pirated stuff because it is easy and I didn't have a job. Now I have money so I buy games. The difference is I don't steal and at the same time try to justify stealing.

if you steal games, then admit you are a thief.


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:34    Post subject:

At people trying to defend them.

Could care less if Ubisoft doesn't make a quick port of a mediocre RTS anyway. It's not like people would buy crappy games even if you couldn't pirate them..
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:41    Post subject:
everytime some big greedy rich ass publishing co. trying to excuse themself by delaying, making or not half assed pc ports this stealing bs comes up
no matter how much u will leech those games they still will be driving ferrari's where u will stay poor ass mofos who think that buying games is actually supporting developers
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Revocation
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:48    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:

At people trying to defend them.

Could care less if Ubisoft doesn't make a quick port of a mediocre RTS anyway. It's not like people would buy crappy games even if you couldn't pirate them..


FAIL

and yes,
that's why Piracy is despicable.
all the kids here
need to stop play childish
and understand what selfish desire
to play every worthy games for free can do to the market.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:49    Post subject:
Ohnoessss it's NPiracy again.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:52    Post subject:
They steal games because they don't think it is stealing because it is sooo easy and so hard to get caught. If someone tells them they are stealing, then they are FORCED to try to justify it.

JUST LIKE CRACK ADDICTS.
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Revocation
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:55    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Ohnoessss it's NPiracy again. Embarassed


more and more facts
that your stupid idea of playing games
without pay for them{those who coast money}
eliminate your own market,
I'm warning you here that one day
you will not have anymore games to play,
ignorance of the problem will not solved it.
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:00    Post subject:
Please ban that idiot, he keeps coming back here like a moth to a flame.
I'm speaking of course about Npiracy....


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krackhead




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:06    Post subject:
Revocation wrote:
djaoni wrote:
Ohnoessss it's NPiracy again. Embarassed


more and more facts
that your stupid idea of playing games
without pay for them{those who coast money}
eliminate your own market,
I'm warning you here that one day
you will not have anymore games to play,
ignorance of the problem will not solved it.


the first games that become pirated are console games, so it is a bullshit reason to not make a game for pc

note: like the other person said, most games for pc coming later then the console version are shit anyway, havent had a console port that was worth buying

and yes I buy games when I like them, stalker, crysis warhead, fallout 3, far cry 2 etc but not that other shitty games dumped on the pc market


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:07    Post subject:
i can live without shitty ubi ports, I can't live without the likes of Blizzard/Valve so i'm glad they see sense and actually make decent games.


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Revocation
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:08    Post subject:
Quote:
everytime some big greedy rich ass publishing co. trying to excuse themself by delaying, making or not half assed pc ports this stealing bs comes up
no matter how much u will leech those games they still will be driving ferrari's where u will stay poor ass mofos who think that buying games is actually supporting developers


if nobody will buy it their game,where they will get their money from to make more games?
just because someone has some money
that give you the right to steal from him?

Prefetian wrote:
Please ban that idiot, he keeps coming back here like a moth to a flame.
I'm speaking of course about Npiracy....


just because I'm telling the truth and you keep with that
ignorance,doe's not make me the idiot here.


Quote:

the first games that become pirated are console games, so it is a bullshit reason to not make a game for pc


there are more piracy in the PC then the consoles,why?
Because Modchip or firmware your console
coast you the responsibility from the company on your console and can risk your console.most of the people
don't want it.


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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:08    Post subject:
“To be honest, if PC wasn’t pirated to hell and back, there’d probably be a PC version coming out the same day as the other two,”

The game is still coming to pc, why whine.


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Pey




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:11    Post subject:
I´m not, but it´ll surely feel consolish.


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