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 Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 02:49 Post subject: |
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sureee  if no nerf then other classes will be buffed . cause the patch phluxed is going to be a class balancing one mainly
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 06:10 Post subject: |
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Oh, yea, you're right. It's not in the description of the class they are really hard to kill or anything.
Sorry, but RTFM.
Why in gods name as soon as smart players figure out how to play their classes before everyone else do people assume we need a nerf? If they nerf rune priests, I am deleting my character and unsubscribing.
However, there is no mention of it, except rumours by babies who like to whine.
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nightlith
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 06:18 Post subject: |
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What classes did they remove btw?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Frant1c
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 06:40 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | What classes did they remove btw? |
Choppas, Hammerers, Black guards and Knights of the blazing sun.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 06:41 Post subject: |
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Knight of the Blazing Sun (Empire Tank), Black Guard (Dark Elf Tank), Choppa (Greenskin DPS) and Hammerer (Dorf something).
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 08:39 Post subject: |
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im playing on mountain of world edge server or something, and ENG core server.
problem for me is that there is to few players i think atleast. it says its med/med on server list. but if i see more then 20 player on a map its good. no guilds really. no one chats in /1 channel, sure the chatting need to be redone but still feels a bit deserted.
i got an dest char on an open PvP server witch was my main, but there the problem was 1 hour que to enter the game thats why i rolled.
now i love my warpriest but i so wish they allowed us to transfear the char to an more populatade server.
btw anyone here playing on same server toss me an PM and maybe we can form up an guild
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 11:14 Post subject: |
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Phlux im just pulling ur chain lol. lordy..
Anyhow though, on your note about the manual, that means shit, since when does any mmo these days reflect what the manual says on release ?
Its not about the toughness, its the fact that RP has a serious over survivability issue when looking at balance between all classes. You will also find the Shadow warrior will prob get a buff, as it lacks something like the squig herder does. Yes its a group orientated game but at same time it has to be viable for classes to face off with eachother, as open RVR servers allow that 1 on 1 interaction.
These changes will come, you know it, I know it, anyone who has played mmo's long enough SHOULD know it, by now. Right 
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 11:25 Post subject: |
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somehow i think my WP survives just as well as a RP and then some ...
i'm level 21 now, and i have 4 different heals, 3 of them being HoT's (well 2 HoT's ,and 1 Attack that does 4 hits in 3 secondes healing 250% of damage done) a group heal with 2 seconds recharge healing insta 500-600 , and every minute around 900-1000 from moral ... + over 1200 armor and 130ish absorb every 3 seconds.
i'm one tough s.o.b. lol (people usually ignore me when running by (Open rvr server) because they can't kill me 1 on 1 or even 3 on 1 (depends on class, but 3 tanks can't kill me lol) 3 WE can, i guess, but none of the other classes really stands a chance (i may take my time to kill them, but i outlast them lol).
But anyway, that aside, people need to learn to play their classes correctly and they will start to be tougher too.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 12:42 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | somehow i think my WP survives just as well as a RP and then some ...
i'm level 21 now, and i have 4 different heals, 3 of them being HoT's (well 2 HoT's ,and 1 Attack that does 4 hits in 3 secondes healing 250% of damage done) a group heal with 2 seconds recharge healing insta 500-600 , and every minute around 900-1000 from moral ... + over 1200 armor and 130ish absorb every 3 seconds.
i'm one tough s.o.b. lol (people usually ignore me when running by (Open rvr server) because they can't kill me 1 on 1 or even 3 on 1 (depends on class, but 3 tanks can't kill me lol) 3 WE can, i guess, but none of the other classes really stands a chance (i may take my time to kill them, but i outlast them lol).
But anyway, that aside, people need to learn to play their classes correctly and they will start to be tougher too. |
kinde of feel the same way about my WP i love him tho. but almost always in BG when our group meets an desto group and we lose im the last 1 to fall. most of the time there is no problems facing 1 dps'er and 1 tank at the same time, since they cant out dmg your heals.
problem i noticed is that i get over confident so i can easly charge 3-4 guys solo and then i die. but usualy i die around 1-2 times in a BG match.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 12:43 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | somehow i think my WP survives just as well as a RP and then some ...
i'm level 21 now, and i have 4 different heals, 3 of them being HoT's (well 2 HoT's ,and 1 Attack that does 4 hits in 3 secondes healing 250% of damage done) a group heal with 2 seconds recharge healing insta 500-600 , and every minute around 900-1000 from moral ... + over 1200 armor and 130ish absorb every 3 seconds.
i'm one tough s.o.b. lol (people usually ignore me when running by (Open rvr server) because they can't kill me 1 on 1 or even 3 on 1 (depends on class, but 3 tanks can't kill me lol) 3 WE can, i guess, but none of the other classes really stands a chance (i may take my time to kill them, but i outlast them lol).
But anyway, that aside, people need to learn to play their classes correctly and they will start to be tougher too. |
kinde of feel the same way about my WP i love him tho. but almost always in BG when our group meets an desto group and we lose im the last 1 to fall. most of the time there is no problems facing 1 dps'er and 1 tank at the same time, since they cant out dmg your heals.
problem i noticed is that i get over confident so i can easly charge 3-4 guys solo and then i die. but usualy i die around 1-2 times in a BG match.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 16:20 Post subject: |
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Phluxed wrote: | Oh, yea, you're right. It's not in the description of the class they are really hard to kill or anything.
Sorry, but RTFM.
Why in gods name as soon as smart players figure out how to play their classes before everyone else do people assume we need a nerf? If they nerf rune priests, I am deleting my character and unsubscribing.
However, there is no mention of it, except rumours by babies who like to whine. |
I never agree with nerfing.
If something has to change, they should boost something else. Not nerf a class.
Nerfing just pisses people off.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 17:10 Post subject: |
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Hoping for a little more client stability and thats about it, the rest of the fixes look fine, and I'm done grinding, so I can care less about xp
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Ashmolly
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 17:12 Post subject: |
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| Big_Gun wrote: | | Phluxed wrote: | Oh, yea, you're right. It's not in the description of the class they are really hard to kill or anything.
Sorry, but RTFM.
Why in gods name as soon as smart players figure out how to play their classes before everyone else do people assume we need a nerf? If they nerf rune priests, I am deleting my character and unsubscribing.
However, there is no mention of it, except rumours by babies who like to whine. |
I never agree with nerfing.
If something has to change, they should boost something else. Not nerf a class.
Nerfing just pisses people off. |
You should see the countless threads on nerfing the BW. Its pathetic, I play a BW and I wish I had some of the shit they are spewing on the forums. People will constantly cry nerf, no one should be nerfed at this point. I think we are perfectly balanced, but both sides have a flavor of the month class, so there will be some issues. |
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 17:40 Post subject: |
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I think gear is more important than people realize and no one does their renown correctly for pvp. I went all toughness in tier 1 and the willpower/initiative for tier 2... it rapes.
Anyhow, no nerfs for classes.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 22:23 Post subject: Question about the game |
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I am really tempted on buying Warhammer Online, the only thing is:
will it feel like having a 2nd job (a la WOW so to speak) or is it gonna be fun for non-hardcore ppl like myself?
I abandoned WOW after a bit as there were some instances when you had to waste 1 or 2 hours looking for people to join in on a quest or a dungeon and many dungeons were a little too long for my liking (4 hours to complete a dungeon plus the time spent on begging people to join?? That was too much for me), so I'm asking to everyone that already tried it:
how much would you recommend this game to someone that has possibly 1-2 hours a day to dedicate to it?
TIA
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 22:26 Post subject: |
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What are the most and least popular classes?
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 22:38 Post subject: Re: Question about the game |
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| QUARGON wrote: | I am really tempted on buying Warhammer Online, the only thing is:
will it feel like having a 2nd job (a la WOW so to speak) or is it gonna be fun for non-hardcore ppl like myself?
I abandoned WOW after a bit as there were some instances when you had to waste 1 or 2 hours looking for people to join in on a quest or a dungeon and many dungeons were a little too long for my liking (4 hours to complete a dungeon plus the time spent on begging people to join?? That was too much for me), so I'm asking to everyone that already tried it:
how much would you recommend this game to someone that has possibly 1-2 hours a day to dedicate to it?
TIA |
It has its casual elements. Its got a very pick up and play PVP mentality to it. It's what I do. However, I'm not sure about server populations, as lower levels may not be as populated for lower tier pvp levels.
The game is entirely PVP based, if you're looking for PVE content, this really isn't for you.
Most popular classes on my server from what I can tell
Destruction
1. Chosen
2. Black Orc
3. Zealot
4. Witch Elf
Order
1. Bright Wizard
2. Warrior Priest
3. Archmage
4. Witch Hunter/Shadow Warrior
I'd also like to point out the following in respect to the claims of nerfing rune priest. If they do in fact nerf rune priest, the following classes also need nerf
Zealot, Black Orc, Chosen, Witch Elf and then a buff to the following classes: Sorcerer, Squig Hearder, Witch Hunter, Shadow Warrior, IronBreaker, Engineer.
From playing a tonne of MMORPGs, I know often they won't do mass patches, especially with so few people upper level. If it is incredibly unbalanced when everyone is max level, then I can see some patches being made, however, I believe Mythic's intent in this game was to be heavily team-tactic oriented and heavily gear oriented.
Archmages should die 3x as fast as rune priests, tanks should be very very hard to kill, witch elfs should be able to dominate bright wizards very quickly etc. Its all about supporting each other on the battlefield, its WAR afterall.
Get some perspective.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 00:18 Post subject: Re: Question about the game |
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| QUARGON wrote: | I am really tempted on buying Warhammer Online, the only thing is:
will it feel like having a 2nd job (a la WOW so to speak) or is it gonna be fun for non-hardcore ppl like myself?
I abandoned WOW after a bit as there were some instances when you had to waste 1 or 2 hours looking for people to join in on a quest or a dungeon and many dungeons were a little too long for my liking (4 hours to complete a dungeon plus the time spent on begging people to join?? That was too much for me), so I'm asking to everyone that already tried it:
how much would you recommend this game to someone that has possibly 1-2 hours a day to dedicate to it?
TIA |
You can level in the game by doing nothing but PVP. You can get in pvp as easily as clicking an Icon in the top right corner of your interface and waiting for your turn to enter the PVP "scenario".
Then, when you have more time available, you can go do Public Quests (Think Raid level content from other games. . . but in Warhammer it is available VERY early on), you can do regular quests, you can enter RVR areas (pvp) and hunt for people to kill, you can visit the auction shop and buy/sell stuff, OR . . you can do all the above stuff while you wait for a turn in a pvp scenario. Also, there IS a crafting system but not quite as deep as some games. But, it is there for anyone that wants it.
Warhammer is a game I can play and accomplish something even if I have 30 minutes to play. The game play is very friendly... learning the tactics for the scenarios is another matter.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 00:23 Post subject: Thanks |
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Thank you Phluxed and Big_Gun,
I think it is going to be my next purchase, I like what I heard and I like the fact that it's possibly going to be something to enjoy whenever I have a bit of free time.
Cheers. 
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 02:10 Post subject: |
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i hope squig herder will get some love..im cute but too weak :S
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 05:17 Post subject: |
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I tried going solo instead of random partying in Scenario, and instead of coming out with 6-7k xp i came out with like 10k, b-e-a-utiful boost, and that actually leveled me,definately gonna solo from now on, i do in the regionof 17-20k damage in sceaario's with my Chosen.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 06:14 Post subject: |
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Xp from kill's is based on how much damage you do to a target, because even if you die, an some other nut job kill's your target you get the xp for the damage you have done, that's what i'm lead to believe, Chosen is not only the most fun class i've used, but also look's like a complete badass, normally in thsse game's i take mage's, but i get bored of them so quickly, but this class, just holy shit, perfect for me.
 
This was before i found out about solo Scenario'ing,
Picked up 4 leve's tonight just doing RvR, love it
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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Really nice patch! Hope they keep it up.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 19:01 Post subject: |
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i hope that was sarcasm ...
seriously, they didn't patched anything they said they would ... or have.
+ added a shitload of new bugs.
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