[XBOX360] Fifa 09
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kalato




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 00:10    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Oh come on, it's just another FIFA with increased number...

Away with u peasant!
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techmob




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 00:14    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Oh come on, it's just another FIFA with increased number...


the pes section is that way sunshine
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Hellbeans




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 03:02    Post subject:
Nosmirchjgkjhghjg wrote:
garus wrote:
Oh come on, it's just another FIFA with increased number...


Maybe to you. To the rest of us it's not, if you have no interest in it why post in the thread? Does it make your balls feel bigger to post in a thread of a game you have no interest in that you have no interest in it?


So wait, disliking the game means no interest? are you only interested in a game if you wanna lick the dev team's balls? get a grip man, and start working on some patience exercises, count gay sheep, just don't take it out on a guy who has a valid point. And to be on topic, how can you people play this series year after year? It just doesn't feel like a football game to me, PES feels much more responsive and authentic, just to name a few.


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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 03:24    Post subject:
PES feels more ''Authentic'' in what way

FIFA plays more like football
FIFA has more licenses ''Authenticity'' is fifa's middle name

as for PES been the better game that is your opinion to those of us who like change fifa is exactly that! it has not rested on its laurels and has improved its game so much in the last 3 years that is it now the better game!

PES6 was the last PES I thought was better than fifa don't get me wrong I expect pes2009 to be good but PES has gone the way of previous fifa's and fifa the way of previous pro evo's

they have different approaches to how football should be played and both will attract different buyers and I will buy both games.

But I think FIFA is the better game because it plays the most realistic simply the gameplay is better now.

PES has gone for the more arcade approach and that is not why I bought PES yearly from PES1-6 I bought it for its ridiculous attention to detail which gave it that sim feel fifa could only dream of offering now that dream has come true! for EA
soz if I don't make sense 2am Smile
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Hellbeans




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 03:54    Post subject:
It's OK, it's late enough here, my point wasn't really to debate FIFA vs PES, just annoyed by the previous posts...the man has a point, all EA games are the same with an increased number every year...why go all "Shun the non believer!" on him?


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biertap




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 09:38    Post subject:
some stores in france & england seem to allready have it; seen some pictures from guys who had the ps3 version. Let's hope the x360 version comes soon Smile
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Nosmirchjgkjhghjg




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 10:20    Post subject:
Hellbeans wrote:
Nosmirchjgkjhghjg wrote:
garus wrote:
Oh come on, it's just another FIFA with increased number...


Maybe to you. To the rest of us it's not, if you have no interest in it why post in the thread? Does it make your balls feel bigger to post in a thread of a game you have no interest in that you have no interest in it?


So wait, disliking the game means no interest? are you only interested in a game if you wanna lick the dev team's balls? get a grip man, and start working on some patience exercises, count gay sheep, just don't take it out on a guy who has a valid point. And to be on topic, how can you people play this series year after year? It just doesn't feel like a football game to me, PES feels much more responsive and authentic, just to name a few.


If you knew anything about Fifa09 and the Fifa series' progression on next gen and knew anything about the absolute lack of progression in the PES serious since around PES05 you would know that what you just wrote is complete bollocks. To say that Fifa09 compared to Fifa08 is just a number increase is complete and utter idiocy, the only area of Fifa09 where that argument would perhaps hold weight is in the manager mode which has had little attention, gameplay has been massively improved and built on since Fifa08.As have other areas such as online and be a pro.
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garus
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 10:27    Post subject:
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Nosmirchjgkjhghjg




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 10:41    Post subject:
garus wrote:
I'm interested. That's why I'm posting here. They might add new things but they forgot about the most important thing: gameplay. In recent FIFAs I can shoot goals the same way in EVERY match, because AI sucks. I fuck enemies as much as I want . Try doing the same action in single match in PES.


If you'd played Fifa08 on next gen, and played the Fifa09 demo on next gen, you can easily see in 10 seconds that the gameplay is massively improved in Fifa09.

Can't do the same action in every single match of PES? Oh perlease it's an utter arcade game, pass, pass, pass cutback goal, super dribble, super dribble cutback goal, you can do the same shit over and over and over because it's an unrealistic, arcade football game with unbalanced gameplay. At least in Fifa you have to build up play properly to create chances, you have to play the game as if it's real football, pass and move, create openings, play on the counter watch your players' runs, look for openings in your opponents defences. PES with it's arcade automatic passing, arcade dribbling system just means you can use a "super hero" like Cronaldo and dribble your way around everyone, or use a freight train like Adriano and bully your way around everyone, shooting from anywhere and getting it in target (yes Adriano has been toned down for PES09 but there are plenty of other similar unrealistic players).

PES is a retro game on next gen, it looks like it's still the exact same PS2 engine as previous incarnations with a slight bit of effort to make it look better, it has the same fucking awful old gen animations, it has the same current gen gameplay, same crappy ball physics, even Seabass himself finally admitted PES is not a simulation of football. PES was a great game in its day, but it's not 2005 now, time moves on, gaming platforms move on, I no more want to play a shallow arcade game like PES than I want to play something like SWOS or Kick off 2 or any other retro football game that once was great and now belongs in the archives of past football masters made obsolete by time and technology.
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hitmanuk




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 10:57    Post subject:
Nosmirchjgkjhghjg wrote:
garus wrote:
I'm interested. That's why I'm posting here. They might add new things but they forgot about the most important thing: gameplay. In recent FIFAs I can shoot goals the same way in EVERY match, because AI sucks. I fuck enemies as much as I want . Try doing the same action in single match in PES.


If you'd played Fifa08 on next gen, and played the Fifa09 demo on next gen, you can easily see in 10 seconds that the gameplay is massively improved in Fifa09.

Can't do the same action in every single match of PES? Oh perlease it's an utter arcade game, pass, pass, pass cutback goal, super dribble, super dribble cutback goal, you can do the same shit over and over and over because it's an unrealistic, arcade football game with unbalanced gameplay. At least in Fifa you have to build up play properly to create chances, you have to play the game as if it's real football, pass and move, create openings, play on the counter watch your players' runs, look for openings in your opponents defences. PES with it's arcade automatic passing, arcade dribbling system just means you can use a "super hero" like Cronaldo and dribble your way around everyone, or use a freight train like Adriano and bully your way around everyone, shooting from anywhere and getting it in target (yes Adriano has been toned down for PES09 but there are plenty of other similar unrealistic players).

PES is a retro game on next gen, it looks like it's still the exact same PS2 engine as previous incarnations with a slight bit of effort to make it look better, it has the same fucking awful old gen animations, it has the same current gen gameplay, same crappy ball physics, even Seabass himself finally admitted PES is not a simulation of football. PES was a great game in its day, but it's not 2005 now, time moves on, gaming platforms move on, I no more want to play a shallow arcade game like PES than I want to play something like SWOS or Kick off 2 or any other retro football game that once was great and now belongs in the archives of past football masters made obsolete by time and technology.



Hey leave kick off 2 out of this ..that was the ultimate football game and was my favorite game of all time as a boy...and the wind effects were something that Next Gen doesn't even come close too Very Happy ....beside that spot on about PES Ive owned them all and loved them all up until PES 2006 ...FIFA is the game to beat now..I think the only thing FIFA is missing is Mr Screech as a referee (Kick Off fans will know what I'm talking about)
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Nosmirchjgkjhghjg




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 11:03    Post subject:
Yes Kick Off2 was one of my all time football games, preferred it to SWOS as Kick Off 2 was less arcadey than SWOS.
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 13:00    Post subject:
any chance of the game been up today or should I just get on with my life for the day lol
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OPM




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 13:11    Post subject:
sunday...wouldn't get my hopes up
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dougiej2004




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 13:37    Post subject:
kick off 2 was magic,no fifa on a sunday no chance
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 13:42    Post subject:
ok thanks guys
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kalato




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 14:21    Post subject:
Ohh the memorys on playing kickoff!


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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 17:36    Post subject:
22 people now on mygamercard, maybe we got a suprise monday morning Wink


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hitmanuk




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 18:05    Post subject:
can't be far off now..I thought we would have had this by now going off the numbers playing it..Some really positive views on evo web around the gameplay and weather effects and such..cant come quick enough
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OPM




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 18:07    Post subject:
quite a few people new on mygamercard, doubt they received press copys today...
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 18:25    Post subject:
some people who had the game on mygamercard said their game is a press copy
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uberd0g




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 20:36    Post subject:
getting warmed up by playing euro 08 now

i wish they'd bring back the old free kick system tho. the one where you placed a target anywhere on the ball to add curl and lift. it was quality.

i think they dropped it after 2003. pity
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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 20:56    Post subject:
OPM wrote:
quite a few people new on mygamercard, doubt they received press copys today...


add 2 more guys to the list now Smile


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hitmanuk




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 21:21    Post subject:
FFS
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dougiej2004




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 21:28    Post subject:
come on somebody leak it,im expecting a monday morning suprise
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 21:28    Post subject:
feel the same way hitmanuk!
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 21:29    Post subject:
dougiej2004 wrote:
come on somebody leak it,im expecting a monday morning suprise


me 2 please GOD!
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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 22:35    Post subject:
dougiej2004 wrote:
come on somebody leak it,im expecting a monday morning suprise


Look 7 post above you Wink
Hmm there are also 4 people on mygamercard that are playing PES2009, but i think those are just reviewers/testers..

But 24 people for fifa 09, nah not all are reviewers or testers

lets wait and sleep, maybe we got something in the morning Very Happy

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didnt this was posted already, but here is a review from somebody who got the game for the ps3 Smile

hxxp://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/342915-fifa-09-review-gameplay-analysis.html


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OPM




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 23:13    Post subject:
i read the ign review, now i am trying to avoid new opinions / pictures. don't want to be spoiled Smile
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xboxrippin




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 23:34    Post subject:
i hope it is up tomorrow!!!! ffs lol ffs x10000
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Akenny




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Sep 2008 00:26    Post subject:
im dying for it aswell the videos are great, i NEED IT Smile lol
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