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Ispep
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 Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 00:33 Post subject: Section off the console arena by brand |
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I think the console arena should be sectioned off;
-Microsoft
-Nintendo
-Sony
It works on other forums I go to and in my opinion should be considered here.
Given most of the forums target audience the Microsoft section is going to be the busier naturally, but that's actually part of the problem if you happen to own another system. I've tried to create a few threads myself (after hearing 4me2 complain) but they've already gotten lost amongst the 360 splurge (a lot of which is ironically multi-platform).
Obviously, I can't guarantee that all non-360 users are going to come out of the woodwork and populate their separate sections to the same degree 360 users will (in fact I doubt they'll be anywhere near as active) but these people do exist and sectioning off their topics will help foster a larger community for their respective brand. The situation as of now is rather bleak in that respect - but given time to grow and develop in its own section, it could be a lot better.
As a 360 user the situation as it stands is perfectly fine, it doesn't impact upon you, but I would suggest you look at it from a different perspective before deciding on whether or not to post in favour. Should you own one of the other systems I can tell you from personal experience that the situation is different, and had someone not complained I wouldn't have even bothered posting myself.
I don't necessarily think a smaller and less active separate section is necessarily a bad thing (as might be one proposition from those against), in fact for me a much worse situation is where other console users find posting amidst the more popular 360 swamp a futile, unattractive, (etc) prospect.
Anyway I think I've made my point clear, I just hope others see it the same way 
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 04:34 Post subject: |
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i like the idea, could help out with arguing a bit possibly, people who have no care for PS3 don't have to dig through the countless 360 titles and the not so many WII games posted can shine their light as well in their own section. It'd make finding games A LOT easier. Instead of searching for a 360 game in a section with about 4 different consoles it'll only have to search through threads of 1 console.
My vote goes to ispeps idea
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 08:55 Post subject: Re: Section off the console arena by brand |
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| Ispep wrote: | | Anyway I think I've made my point clear, I just hope others see it the same way |
I think it's a good idea. Neowin has it like this, and it works very well.
Linky |
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tobycoaster
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 23:36 Post subject: |
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what about people with all 3 like myself
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 00:14 Post subject: |
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I'm sure we can work something out. Maybe another subsection called; "rich fucks" 
...but seriously, any word on whether this is even being considered?
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 02:46 Post subject: |
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FREE MY ENSLAVED PEOPLE THEY NEED ROOM AND SPACE FOR HUMPING ORGY
LET IT BE SAID THE CONSOLES NEED A ROOM AND LOTS OF CONDOMS TO FIND
A SOLUTION
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 07:59 Post subject: |
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| tobycoaster wrote: | | what about people with all 3 like myself |
What would stop you from posting on all 3 sections?
Splitting it up in three different sections would just make things more tidy and people would have more overview. Instead of having to look at hundreds of [Xbox360] tags, which in many cases should have been [Xbox360+PS3]. |
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 14:21 Post subject: |
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So now if I was in to consoles, I would have to look in all 3 sections for possible news that is just posted in one of them.
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 14:51 Post subject: |
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Well, general news could be kept in the main section...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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deelix
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 15:53 Post subject: |
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How it is now works pretty well. Few WII, PS2 and PS3 threads anyway.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 15:58 Post subject: |
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| Karmeck wrote: | | So now if I was in to consoles, I would have to look in all 3 sections for possible news that is just posted in one of them. |
I'm not sure I follow you. Each sub-section would carry news relating exclusively to that system. If you wanted news on the PS3 you'd go in the Sony section, Wii the Nintendo and so on. If there's a non-specific piece of news or discussion (like this thread by Spykez for example) then it could be posted in the general console section - which is the area you see before selecting a subsection.
The way it is now, people who own anything other than a 360 are swamped with threads they don't want to read, and having the threads they do drowned out and in some cases neutered because multi-platform title threads are always 360-centric.
The idea behind this is to help create a better atmosphere for different consoles and their users. Again I'm speaking from my own perspective here but looking at the console section as it stands is very off-putting for a non-360 user.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 16:09 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | How it is now works pretty well. Few WII, PS2 and PS3 threads anyway. |
This is partly the point for two reasons. First being; for those of us who own a console other than the 360 we have to trawl through many, many threads which dwarf what we want to read and these threads are lost as a result. Second being; this kind of climate prevents growth because people are put off by the situation and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I realise the majority of the userbase here are more interested in piracy - I made this point in my first post - but there are still quite a few of us here who are interested more in the discussion of games (etc), and aspiring to create a better environment to support it shouldn't be overlooked. |
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 16:15 Post subject: |
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hack ps3 problem solved
u'll have as many ps3 threads as 360, hell maybe even seperate section, i'll even consider getting one myself
for now it's pretty much useless, how many ps3 threads u see in console section, even if u put releases aside there is not many ps3 exclusives that will really deserve any attention and many ppl getting 360's over ps3 despite all those issues, overheating and so on
FREE GAMES is a key
sometimes i think ppl forget where they are
in any case it's empty talk, ask mods/admin to make a poll if we need it or not, then maybe things will start moving
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 16:46 Post subject: |
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You are right to assume that once the PS3 gets hacked threads will pop up more regularly. That's not the point though. There are enough PS3 threads even now, but the problem (as I say) is they get lost amongst all the 360 threads and the situation is off-putting to potential users. There would be more threads and more banter if they had their own subsection, and allowed to develop and grow at their own pace. That's the point; fostering a better community for those threads.
| Quote: | | even if u put releases aside there is not many ps3 exclusives that will really deserve any attention |
I beg to differ but that's neither here nor there.
| Quote: | | sometimes i think ppl forget where they are |
I think I have been here long enough to know where I am and I've already pointed out I'm aware much of the chaff here are more interested in downloading 'free' games. Still, there are those of us here who actually buy games, support developers and enjoy discussing them here and have for many years now. I'd be more mindful of that contingent than the other.
| Quote: | | in any case it's empty talk, ask mods/admin to make a poll if we need it or not, then maybe things will start moving |
Hence the post being in 'Site Feedback' and I don't think polls will do much good, even if we all voted yes (highly unlikely given the anonymity of the polling system) the decision would still rest with the admins.
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Rinze
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 18:00 Post subject: |
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So you guys see something like
Console Arena
- Microsoft (for Xbox, xbox360)
- Nintendo (for Wii, DS, etc)
- Sony (Playstations, PSP)
- Technical ??
- Handheld ??
Would there still be a need for a seperate Console technical forum?
The Handheld forum doesn't get too much traffic, should the handheld gaming devices be mixed with big consoles (maybe that will result in the same problem you want to solve now, but now with the handheld threads not being very noticable)
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 18:20 Post subject: |
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a section within a section perhaps? Like:
Microsoft (Xbox & Xbox 360)
- Technical Section.
Sony (Playstations, PSP)
- Technical Section.
Still a dedicated handheld section might still be a good idea.
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 18:45 Post subject: |
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What's "It's a HandHeld World" about then?
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008 19:25 Post subject: |
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Generally speaking, for a non specialised forum I can see the PSP and DS co-existing with the PS3 and Wii on here nicely as there's going to be less discussion on average (for each entry) than on more populated and dedicated forums. It could actually be complimentary to group them together like that.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Sep 2008 22:11 Post subject: |
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Sep 2008 22:18 Post subject: |
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*looks at console section*
No
And for the record I don't support this, believe to keep the place as small as possible not divide every thing with a 1000 sections .
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Ispep
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Sep 2008 22:41 Post subject: |
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Forums with just one section do work, and I prefer them to several sectioned off areas also - but I've given the reasons for why I feel it would work better as the latter than the former (where currently, problems exist).
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Sep 2008 17:04 Post subject: |
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Dont know if this is possible.
Could you have a search function that was one click that would just show you the [PS3] items.
I own both a 360 and a PS3 and i like the forum as one area, but it would be nice to just be able to click a button and just view [PS3] tagged forums. Or in the Hand held section just be able to get [PSP] results.
I don't like the idea of having separate forums, but it would be nice to be able to filter the forum with a single click to respective platforms.
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