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CaptainCox
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 Posted: Mon, 18th Aug 2008 19:24 Post subject: Leaked Info on Intel Products from 2008 through 2012 |
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Details of Upcoming Intel Products from 2008 through 2012 Leaked Ahead of IDF
| Quote: | Intel has lots of excitement in store in the next four years
One of the most anticipated releases for late 2008 is Intel's Nehalem processor --its new four core processor that features the return of Hyper Threading, allowing eight logical cores per processor. Recently formally named Intel Core i7 by Intel, the new processor is also highly anticipated as it will feature QuickPath, Intel's answer to AMD's HyperTransport, and will feature an on-die memory controller for the first time.
The latest Intel slides from CanardPlus show that Intel's wafer production is going smoothly and B1 stepping chips are being produced. Sources at Intel estimate that the chip will offer 15 to 20 percent performance gains at a common frequency over today's top of the line Penryn processors. The processor will go head to head with AMD's upcoming 45 nm offering, codenamed Shanghai.
Looking forward, according to internal slides, Intel plans to release a 32 nm shrink of Nehalem, codenamed Westmere at the end of 2009.
Intel is continuing to follow its "tick tock" strategy, with die shrinks coming in 2009 and 2011. New architectures, according to Intel, will be coming in 2008 with Nehalem, in 2010 with Sandy Bridge, and in 2012 with Haswell.
This increment follows Intel's "tick tock" approach of yearly updates, with the "tick" being the die shrink such as Westmere, while the "tock" represents a new architecture.
Real time raytracing may finally be introduced with Intel's Larrabee. Intel demoed an impresive raytraced version of Quake IV recently.
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Looks there will be some pretty cool stuff ahead.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Aug 2008 19:52 Post subject: |
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Yea I know. Got my X48 Rampage and E8500 like 3 months ago and sort a just got things working smoothly, and that will be sort a old tech in a month or 2 as well.
I guess one has to just decide a point in time when to go for stuff and say "I am ok, I am fine, I just don't give a dam!" but deep inside you are sooo jealous of the guys that do get the new stuff  .
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Aug 2008 21:41 Post subject: |
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Bad time to do any upgrading, especially this past few months as we are in a transition phase.
But than again the first chips to be introduced will be the $1000 "Extreme" versions. I don't think the lower end Nehalem chips will be available until Late-Late 08/Early 09.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 10:58 Post subject: |
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damn. i was thinking on buying a new PC ..... guess we will wait a bit longer ... till probably 2012.... it's not a long time, right? till then i'll stick (hopefully) with my AMD Ath64 X2 ....
really wonder when will they introduce holographic display and AI processors.
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thudo
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 15:52 Post subject: |
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Wow.. 32nm this time next year is about right (or even sooner).
Don't diss Quads.. With a $200+ Motherboard you can easily overclock a Q9300 to 3.50Ghz (thats a full 1Ghz overclock). On cheaper motherboards ( < $160 ) you will likely hit 1Ghz but barely - sometimes its luck of the draw.
Right now, the best solution is a E8400 up to E8600 and overclock it to the hills (you'd get ALOT of mileage doing that since most games and apps use DualCore and not Quad). However, I prefer Quad processors because I tend to build systems for non-gamers and Quad is ready for future apps that will use em.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 16:02 Post subject: |
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Sorry if I didn't clarify properly, but I wasn't dissing the Quads themselves... just their usefulness in Gaming and Emulators. High-end games like Dolphin and PCSX2 aren't equipped to utilise Quadcores, so - as you say - a highly clocked E8400 or E8600 would be golden.
Quads most definitely have their uses, but since I'm a gamer - they're not, at the moment, useful for me.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 18:52 Post subject: |
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Just some more info on the Nehalem that might calm you down a bit.
According to AnandTech it's really not made for gamers.
READ HERE
| Quote: | | Nehalem is about improving HPC, Database and virtualization performance, much less about gaming performance. Maybe this will change once games get some heavy physics threads, but not right away. |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 19:37 Post subject: |
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Woohoo!!
Thanks muchly! Now I can stop fretting about being obsolete before I've even upgraded, lol.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 19:55 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't really believe that. Any advancements they've made in terms of Nehalems architecture should show performance gains across the field.
I never knew there was such a thing as a "Gaming CPU." And since when did Intel's engineers target gaming performance when designing new chips. It works as a whole.
Look at previous Die-shrinks and new architecture releases, all have shown great gains in all aspects. I believe this will be no different, especially given the new memory controller.
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locator
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Aug 2008 00:53 Post subject: |
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Um.
Crysis isn't optimised for Quadcores. Neither are any of these;
UT2003, UT2004, STALKER, HL2, Bioshock, C&C3, Doom 3, Quake 4, FEAR, Oblivion .. shit, almost every game you listed.
Sources please  I didn't say it wasn't compatible with games, I said they're not made to take advantage of it so therefore, to me, it's not worth as much as a highly-clocked DUAL core.
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kalato
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2008 16:53 Post subject: |
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Same with my E6600 clocked to 3ghz, everything is maxed out and all running fine.
I like bum.
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