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 Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 11:18 Post subject: |
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Slovenia. People are really relaxed here about such stuff. Ok you can't have sex in public places but topless women at the beach or nude sunbathing in not so public beaches is nothing special here.
Back on topic. I doubt women only gym would be successful here since men mostly go in their corner with weights and women go to aerobics & training machines. But it's always nice to see a pair of nice boobs in the dressing room. Most women wear towels it's not like they flash everyone but some of them don't bother even with that.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 11:29 Post subject: |
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This topic belongs in the middle east. No imo
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 12:12 Post subject: |
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I don't think so because women only gyms do exist in Canada and they do discriminate aginst men.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 12:16 Post subject: |
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What is next, girl school and boy school :\
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 12:27 Post subject: |
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I'll put this quote:
| evilmonkey wrote: | | if it was a man only gym it would be sexist, but apparently it's ok for women to be sexist. Same at my workplace. |
because I think it's "QFT." So what if someone's fat and doesn't feel too comfortable with her body? Isn't that the purpose of going to the gym anyway? Not long ago I watched some feminist group here in IL protesting against some mens-only club. Don't remember the exact details, but the interviewer did ask about women-only institutions, and the answer was immediately "Oh no, it's not the same, women have every right, bla bla bla." Right! 
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 12:34 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | I don't think so because women only gyms do exist in Canada and they do discriminate aginst men. |
They dont want men staring at them thats all, only a fag would get discriminated by that
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jul 2008 13:41 Post subject: |
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Meh, if women feel more comfortable in women only clubs, then that's cool with me. Long as I can still work out. Though I did go through my later years of schooling in a boys only private school, so I'm used to the idea.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jul 2008 23:01 Post subject: |
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I was at the gym today and I was waiting for a piece of equipment. Anyway I took maybe 2 slow steps toward it and I guess I walked in front of this olders guys path. Korean dude, maybe 55 or so wearing complete street cloths. Like dress pants and belt and office shirt. That is what he works out in. Anyway he Barks right in my face very angry that I got in his way. I think he meant to say "hey" but it was an actual bark where I actually felt his breath in my face. I said 'sorry and just ignored it. He gave me quite the disgusted up and down look too, Like I was a piece of shit. I think he hates white women. I could be wrong but that is my take. I could totally understand how that could be a really intimidating experience for a shy women. This is the first time tho something like that has happened.
I am going to my other gym in a couple of days. I have never seen a women in that pool or hot tub. There is always like 30 men. I haven't ever gone into that pool because I found it intimidating. I am going to try it just to see what happens.
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jul 2008 23:27 Post subject: |
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What about shemales? They should have their own gyms too
11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jul 2008 23:30 Post subject: |
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| DeviLee wrote: | | In my gym we have unisex changing room. So chicks walk around naked all the time. Nobody cares.... well you stare a bit of course but that's it. |
I like the cut of your jib.
Frankly, I'm surprised somewhat Martian agrees with the fact that discrimination is okay as long as both parties are in on it.
Black only gyms and white only gyms please, and one for the asians while we're at it, as long as everyone is cool having their own, right? |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 01:47 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | I know women want equal rights but you can't have it both ways when it suits you. Sometimes a woman has to man up so to speak and put up with a bit of staring or barking in my case. If someone is harassing you then you tell the staff.
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That's the funny part about most of the hardcase feminists, they want it better but don't realize they have to change too.
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Cohen
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Hierofan
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 08:18 Post subject: |
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the gym i go at is more or less men only , with that manly atmosphere , full of sweath with no machines , free weights and crap like that . now it's full of n00bz , but before there was a serious risk bringing a female companion , cause like some of the guys that went there were ex-cons , lone sharks and people like that , not that i had any problems with'em but the guy (skinny as hell) that was working there got his ass kicked last year in front of everyone there because he had a large mouth ... like i said , not for women.
but thenagain , when i went to a "fitness club" before the summer , there were 2-3 guys that were always staring during aerobics class , pathetic . ah c'mon , some women need more intimacy so , i really don't mind , but that would mean that instructors should ALSO be women.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 09:11 Post subject: |
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Actually at the community center we have those as well because they get free passes. Few ex-cons, I only know because they talk about it. One guy I overheard tell another guy he got Hep B from a prison Tatoo. That was kinda gross I though. You can tell the IV drug addits because a lot wear long sleeve shirts to cover up the marks.
Never thought of the staff being all women at a womens gym. That opens up another whole cans of worms because now that involves jobs. That doesn't feel right to me. That a fitness instructor who was male should be denied a job because of his sex.
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Hierofan
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 09:32 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | Actually at the community center we have those as well because they get free passes. Few ex-cons, I only know because they talk about it. One guy I overheard tell another guy he got Hep B from a prison Tatoo. That was kinda gross I though. You can tell the IV drug addits because a lot wear long sleeve shirts to cover up the marks.
Never thought of the staff being all women at a womens gym. That opens up another whole cans of worms because now that involves jobs. That doesn't feel right to me. That a fitness instructor who was male should be denied a job because of his sex. |
here guys would say that they're going to take their beemers and mercs drive to the country pick up some contry chicks , fuck'em and sell'em as in human traffic , or telling shit he's done abroad , like going into austria only with the clothes on him and almost no money and come back with bags of clothes he'd steal from shops 
ok , that remark i know is exagerrated , you are right with the job thing , but i was reffering to more intimacy , some bimbos wouldnt do jack , they'd stare at the instructor's ass or some shit , but nonetheless , if she/he has good qualification for the job , then fuck sex .
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 09:39 Post subject: |
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Where are you from? It isn't like that here.
I think someone should be hired because of their job skill. If that person is a man then so be it. A
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Ankh
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Hierofan
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 13:31 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | Where are you from? It isn't like that here.
I think someone should be hired because of their job skill. If that person is a man then so be it. A |
romania , here they hire people based on needs , youngsters bassicly that know jack , they recieve less cash and shit
they need the job , patrons need to pay less
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 17:06 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | What is next, girl school and boy school :\ |
uh, they do have those. they are called private schools |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 18:03 Post subject: |
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| swingman wrote: | | kaeye wrote: | Pistol, If you got into a pool/hot tub with 30 men you deserve everything you get  no offense but thats kinda like dangling a sausage in front of 50 starving wolves whilst you are lathered in blood. |
Can't even begin to explain how narrow-minded that comment is. Sounds like something an ultra-orthodox imam might say.
| Quote: | Muslim Cleric Blames Women For Rape
If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside... and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat?" Sheikh Hilali was quoted as asking during a sermon in Sydney. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6086374.stm
In a civillised society a woman should be able to dress according to the laws of the country and not feel insecure. That includes being dressed in swimming attire in a mixed swimming-pool. |
Male sexual arousal has very little to do with "civilization" and a lot to do with biology  |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 19:11 Post subject: |
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| swingman wrote: | It's normal (even human) to have a reaction, sexual or otherwise to an attractive woman but that doesn't mean we have to act on those reactions. Where would be if we all acted on our baser instincts.
We find ourselves (again) on opposite sides of the same argument and I know that you are pre-programmed to agree with or obey whatever some religious scholar says but don't you have an opinion or a value system of your own? You don't, for example, go to an electronics store and just grab that flatscreen tv even though it looks so awesome, do you? Ofcourse you don't because there are laws against it and I'm sure even in your religious book there some codes about not stealing. Why then is there no edict about not turning into an animal at the sight of a woman? Why is the burden of responsibility entirely on women's shoulders to hide and cover-up to protect herself. And covering up doesn't help as that report about sexual-harassment in egypt showed. |
Yes, we shouldn't act on our primal instincts, but we can't ignore them either.
A beautiful woman in a bathing suite will arouse any man, some of whom can't control their primal instincts and will act upon them.
The man is mainly to blame, but the woman is also at fault for putting herself in such a situation.
And if you want to talk about covering up, then it most definitely works, just look at Saudi Arabia. Egypt is a much more complex case. |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 19:29 Post subject: |
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Do women wear thongs in egypt at the beach?
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X_Dror
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2008 19:30 Post subject: |
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Anyone who can't control himself needs to be deal with. There's no excuse for people not to control themselves. If people can't control themselves not to rape women, so nothing will stop them from stealing, beating up anyone who annoys you, and even killing if it well get you some awesome things. A man who can't control himself when he sees a beautiful woman, will also be unable to control himself when he'll be able to steal a lot of money or expensive stuff.
Women should be able to wear whatever they want without having to be afraid of people raping them.
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