[XBOX360] Fall 2008-09 Dashboard Update
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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2008 19:17    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
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New display support. Because you asked for it, we are adding 16X10 over VGA or HDMI, and support for 1440x900 or 1680x1050.


Finally! Full 1680x1050 powah!

and still you will get a crappy ass up scale of a hd420 or 720 game

Shouldn't matter too much wether the xbox or the screen does the upscaling (since the screen is 1680x1050 native), and I am counting on the xbox to do it better than the screen.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2008 19:51    Post subject:
most importantly that AR will be correct
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2008 20:53    Post subject:
This has a very similar look and feel to Windows Media Center. Should be a badassed update.

Anyone know if they are finally adding group chat support with the "party mode" thing they've been touting? Group chat is a must in my opinion. How long have PC gamers been able to join a chat with all their buddies? This seems like Xbox's biggest hurdle right now... their matchmaking system. For some games it just sucks. Try getting into the same squad on the same team with more than 1 of your friends in Battlefield Bad Company for example. I hope to god they tackle some of these issues.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2008 23:29    Post subject:
Its gotta suck for people who actually payed for dashboard themes. Or maybe those themes can be used on the new dashboard.



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me7




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 00:00    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
Its gotta suck for people who actually payed for dashboard themes. Or maybe those themes can be used on the new dashboard.


If you pay money for a theme, then it's your own fault Razz .
I really like the 16:10 support but I wonder what it will do to the image: add borders, cut off the sides or just stretch it?
The game installation option gives me mixeed feelings. Devs could start to abuse it like on the PS3. If you can choose between install or extreme loading times from DVD it's optional but still sucks.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 00:51    Post subject:
I read around and most people hate the new dashboard, some even wrote a letter of complaint to microsoft so now under the influence of this I hate it too Laughing nothing personal microsoft.
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timechange01
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 01:04    Post subject:
There is no way theyl take those letters into consideration. This dashboard was already announced at E3 press conference. No chance of going back at this point.



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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 01:08    Post subject:
Well dogh, they don't even read that shit Very Happy

Now I think it's okay after seeing this:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36411.html
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 02:03    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Well dogh, they don't even read that shit Very Happy

Now I think it's okay after seeing this:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36411.html


It´s definitely better than what we have now! Don´t understand why people are criticizing microsoft for the change.
It looks great
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rampart




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 03:33    Post subject:
Wait so they are going to allow a install of a game onto the hard-drive? If so i can see why they are replacing the 20gigs with 60.
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Tr00p3r




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 03:38    Post subject:
forget the look, forget the added movies or what not.... its the rip the games to hd that has me puzzled a mass ban perhaps to move the newest hd model that happens to have unmoddable firmware for the drive, call me paranoid but it seems too sweet
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rampart




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 03:45    Post subject:
Well if you can do all games, there isn't much security other then the copy protection if you don't have the firmware. The problem is leaving the disc in for ownership, can you take it out after you prove you have the game?
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 03:53    Post subject:
Hmm. Installing games on the HD? Does that mean if a friend lends me a game I can install it on my HD and never have to buy it cos its installed on my HD until I remove it?


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rampart




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 04:06    Post subject:
You can install the game yes, but if you don't have the disk later your screwed because it requires it to be in the drive when you hit A to play the specific game. I don't know if you can take it out after proving you have the game though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 05:03    Post subject:
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You can install the game yes, but if you don't have the disk later your screwed because it requires it to be in the drive when you hit A to play the specific game. I don't know if you can take it out after proving you have the game though.


If you need the disc in your drive then what's the point of installing it on the HDD in the first place? Itl be just a waste of HDD space.



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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 05:13    Post subject:
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If you need the disc in your drive then what's the point of installing it on the HDD in the first place? Itl be just a waste of HDD space.


Or maybe it will open a door to hackers and found a mistake MS did and will let us run ISOs from there. I cant wait till they hack the hardware and run all those awsome stuff we can do with the 1st Xbox
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rampart




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 06:27    Post subject:
That is what i was thinking. Very Happy
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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 10:08    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
rampart wrote:
You can install the game yes, but if you don't have the disk later your screwed because it requires it to be in the drive when you hit A to play the specific game. I don't know if you can take it out after proving you have the game though.


If you need the disc in your drive then what's the point of installing it on the HDD in the first place? Itl be just a waste of HDD space.


1. alot faster loading
2. silence - the DVD will probably just speed up once and be silent for the rest of the game
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 12:31    Post subject:
I can already see Microbastards charging for characters like they charge now for game pictures and themes, who the hell charges for themes I can find a million free themes for the pc and they look 10x better.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 13:04    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 18:57    Post subject:
Will be curious to see if this affects current firmware alterations in some way. . .
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 19:16    Post subject:
If you a have a flashed 360, will the dash update fuke that up?


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me7




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 19:31    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
If you a have a flashed 360, will the dash update fuke that up?


The new interface itself: no. The interface has nothing to do with the copy protection.
The update as a whole: possible. Every update can alter the copy detection if Microsoft finds a vulnurability in the modded firmware, but this is not related to the new interface.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 19:38    Post subject:
Cheers!, feel a bit better now Smile.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 20:56    Post subject:
Laughing what microsoft will flash your xbox over the net? There is no way a dashboard update can screw with you modded xbox firmware.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 22:25    Post subject:
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me7




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 22:34    Post subject:
garus wrote:
But they mean "installing games to hard drive" feature which might use new/different anti-piracy systems/methods or whatever you call them, but inserting DVD into drive for verification will be required so more likely methods will remain the same.


As already written a few times you will need the original (or pirated) game DVD iin your DVD drive to run a game from the harddrive. They will use the same copy protection as until now.

But they may update the protection IF THEY HAPPEN TO FIND A VULNURABILITY IN IXTREME which is unlikely though. This can happen with any update and is not related to the new interface and the game install feature.
There may be a new banning wave BUT THERE IN NO PROOF YET so don't spread paranoia. Just don't apply the update until you hear something from the hackers. The iXtreme group will sure run some tests to see if the consoles DVD checks were changed and report.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 23:48    Post subject:
am i the only one who think it looks like crap ? Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 23:51    Post subject:
As a PC and PS3 user I'm pretty fucking jealous about this makeover, it looks great from my perspective.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 00:32    Post subject:
The whole "can i copy a game of my friends to my hdd and play it? " is flawed , reason ? , 2 letters that MS like

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